Patriots RELEASE AJ Francis

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  1. Rhoadsy13

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    Get him on the PS now!
     
  3. Show Me Your TDs

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    I would claim him and fix a previous mistake.
     
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    Pumped for info and dumped?
     
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    Oh ya....fix da mistake and sign AJ to the PS as soon as possible :)
     
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    I'd mentioned it when they'd first signed him... this was info gathering, he and the OL kid they also picked up from us.

    I had the over under at 10 days, can't recall the exact date he signed with them, but wasn't far off it.
     
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    Hope this was all planned and he comes back to the Fins, shakes Ireland's hand while saying mission accomplished!
     
  8. andres2882

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    Bring him home.
     
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    I always wonder how that process works

    "Hey kid, welcome to NE! Why not tell us everything you know about Miami's playbook?"

    Do these players actually cooperate with this? Especially if you're someone that would be lucky to make a roster, wouldn't the years of this kind of stuff be evidence to them that they're just being used? Dan Carpenter in the span of a month has played for 3/4th of the AFC East, don't these guys get they're being played?
     
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    But... But.... But I thought he was a future pro bowler??? Why would Billy boy release him? How could he let that talent go?
     
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    Ireland probably won't even give Francis a second thought. He'd probably rather re-sign someone like Ryan Baker for the 500th time.
     
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    No one ever said Francis was a future pro bowler. The hoopla surrounding his release was more about the Starks and Soliai situation at the end of the season, where both are F/A. With AJ showing promise in camp, he was some sort of insurance against losing either one or both of them. With the antic's of Soliai's agent David Cantor today, you now would think those fans up in arms over the release of Francis had some good reasoning behind the anguish, considering the teams cut down moves. Whatever the reasoning behind his release by the Patriot's, at least it may give Miami another chance to get him on the PS to continue his development and possibly help add depth for 2014 and some protection against F/A.
     
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    Good question. I always wondered the same. I wonder if the new iPad playbooks have some sort of anti-sharing encryption?
     
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    Funniest thread title ever...
     
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    I would ps squad him. Worth a project
     
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    back to miami please AJ
     
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    I wouldn't ps him.

    "oh hey UDFA guy, thx for handing our playbook to NE, want your spot back?"

    You gotta draw a line somewhere. And that's it IMO. And just to remind everyone how much we overrate him, we cut him, and did NE, and NE is desperate for depth at DT.
     
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    You realize he turned down an offer for their PS to go to ours and then they claimed him, right? He had no choice but to go, and you are just guessing that he divulged anything. Maybe they cut him because he refused.
     
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    Download complete. Bring him back to Miami and download his knowledge on the Patriots play book.
     
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    Me too.
     
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    Well I hope Miami brings him back. The guy didn't want to go to New England to begin with. So hopefully we bring him back.

    Never go to the Library without your shotgun.
     
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    :rolleyes2: its clearly his fault the pats claimed his contact, sure he turned down the pats ps to join us BUT WE SHOULD TOTALLY PINISH HIM EH? Idiotic post
     
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    Nope, I actually forgot that, and those are great points.
     
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    this is a MUST sign in my eyes.
     
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    The Pats also had Bumphis in for a visit, wonder what came of that.


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    Pats seem to be very interested in our players, its a good sign IMO...
     
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    You do realize that the pats have one DT behind there 2 starters and he was a UDFA also, and was a teammate of Francis. So Francis goes Undrafted, we cut him, pats who actually need a DT cut him..

    OMG sign him immediately!
     
  28. CalDolFan10x14

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    Eeeeeeeeeeexcellent! Now let's re-sign him! :)
     
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    You cannot poach a practice squad player from another team and then place that player on your practice squad. NE had to offer him a rookie contract.

    AJ probably wants to -/;;@&$)((&(; over BB & NE

    NE teases the newly engaged AJ with a 400k contract and then cuts him the day before the Nfl season begins

    If we bring him back to our practice squad for 6k a week, we could activate him on NE game day and he will be in destroy and kill mode.
     
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    I bet David Canter gets pissed again if Francis is signed lol
     
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    Oh well let him get butt hurt.
     
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    I wonder if he got to learn much of the Patriot playbook?
     
  33. utahphinsfan

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    Brandon Stokley before the opener said he wouldn't say anything about the Donkeys. Why say something then if it backfires...

    Besides, most teams have scouts, the pats prefer an NSA like approach.
     
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    Just like I suspected.

    To all of you who were freaking out about a guy buried on the depth chart, get your panties unbunched.
     
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    I hate the patriots ....always cheating ...we never do that
     
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    You have seen New England's defense since their big guys started to retire and still think Belichick knows how to evaluate defensive talent anymore?
     
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    you must not have watched any of the pre season games my fellow fin fan.those who have know why we should bring him back.some even thought he would make the 53
     
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    Awesome news! Bet BB tried to pick his brain to gain an advantage on the phins defense and AJ turned him down again! Screw you Pats x 2!
    Come back to Mia on the PS where he wants to be!
     
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    We put him on the 53 or PS and we get all that info on them. He will be a Phin again and I like it.
     
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    Players with less than four years of service basically have NO choice whatsoever in where they are employed. All they can do is just do what their boss asks them until they have four years of service and then become free agents when they are cut from a team, and can therefore choose the terms of their employment.
     
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    Just cut someone who you promised a spot and sign him, like we do. Players are not people anyway, just acorns. This is why I love Ireland so much.
     
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    The thing about releasing Francis and Randall was not so much about them but about who we kept in their place. Now it turns out we have injuries in the DB which explains why we're rolling with Stanford and Don Jones. That still leaves our four scrub backup LBs, though.

    I'd love to get the inside scoop on what goes on with this "sign to get info" thing. What's the proper etiquette, if any? Do some players actually refuse to cooperate in that regard?
     
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    Yea because a player would not divulge anything to a team that gave him an NFL contract to come back to Miami for 6000 a week. Thats beyond silly.
    If thats the case why would NE cut him when he could do the same thing to them.
     
  44. dlockz

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    well I guess tampering with a coach that has a job would not be considered cheating. THE NFL disagreed and thats why we lost draft picks when we signed Don Shula.
     
  45. dlockz

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    Not sure why people think any player would be that loyal to a team that just cut u. Let me see a rookie's minimum is 405,000 a year so u think a player would jeopardize that to possibly go back to us and make 96,000.
    That logic just doesnt add up esp for a guy that could be cut from practice squad at anytime.
     
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    Why you being the voice of logic? Let me bask in my dreams. You're such a Debbie downer. ;)
     
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    bask in that dream then. im just trying to figure out why anyone would be that altruistic lol. i want to know why any guy that is trying to make the nfl would make that idiotic gamble. now if its a choice between practice squads
    why not choose who u went to training camp with.
    hell the pats may pick him back up as a roster player next week

    he got cut for only one of two reasons. one he wasnt that good or two they need a different position on sunday
     
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    bask in that dream then. im just trying to figure out why anyone would be that altruistic lol. i want to know why any guy that is trying to make the nfl would make that idiotic gamble. now if its a choice between practice squads
    why not choose who u went to training camp with.
    hell the pats may pick him back up as a roster player next week

    he got cut for only one of two reasons. one he wasnt that good or two they need a different position on sunday
     
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    Hope he comes back to our PS.
     
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    Hell must have frozen over !!! I agree with Dlox that Francis would be a fool to opt for the Fins PS (where he can be poached at any time by anyone including The Belicheats) when he can be on a pro roster earning bigger bucks and at least having the opportunity to compete for a more permanent status. Now that's not to say that the best of all worlds for him would be to placed on our active roster as clearly he wants to be here if all other things are equal.
     

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