Pats D not looking to good

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  1. kmbond123

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    wow!! what a nice thing to see a pats loss to start the new season --made my week !!
    on a side note --be safe my Florida friends --get out of this storms way-- please !!!
     
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    I didn't even know they played. Thursday night football is horrible. Glad they lost though!
     
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    Maybe dial it back a bit.... they will come out strong as ever in no time
     
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    Yeah we've seen this before. Though their defense is questionable they have Belichik. I'n sure he'll get it fixed.

    Not really into the NFL this week with the approaching storm and it wont even effect this area. Stay safe friends in Florida. Hopefully a miracle keeps the damage to a minimum
     
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    They looked strong on offensive and specials. However, they may have lost Danny Amedela? to a 3rd concussion.
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Their LB corps is terrible is Hightower is hurt for awhile.

    Their secondary isn't ok. Nothing extraordinary about them.

    DL is a weakness.

    Not a good defense at all, their O lost their best WR. I'm certain they'd take a step back this season.
     
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    The greatest threat to the unbeaten season has been eliminated already!!!
     
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    Now if the Jets and Bills lose on Sunday we will be in FIRST place.;)
     
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    They sure got plenty of help from the zebras during the game though...Goalline 1st qtr and they call holding on the pats line BUT WAIT...Lets call one on the defense too so they "offset" ...Then Brady hops around back there for what seemed like 5 minutes on another drive and finally the whistle blows because we all know linemen hold when that much time is taken but guess who they called the holding on? DEFENSE ...what a joke.
    Just a couple of many questionable calls that went their way and I just watched the 1st half. KC must have beat them down pretty good to overcome the bias...
     
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    It's not, but with this monster storm coming, people really aren't too concerned with football right now. But you're right, despite what some may believe Bellicheat made some mistakes this off-season, and NE will suffer as a result.
     
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    They play each other so that won't happen.
     
  12. claytonduper

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    Just realized the Jets are playing the Bills
     
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    I felt like that second running into the kicker penalty could've been roughing.
     
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    If not the first I could certainly make a case on the second one.
     
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    Their defense showed a lack of range sideline to sideline and KC took advantage of it. KC spread them out and attacked the ends and when NE tried to cheat, the hit them up the middle. Alex Smith looked great.
     
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    Enjoy it while it lasts. Which won't be long at all.
     
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    Amazing how few people saw this tbh, just shows how many people just truly don't understand the NFL in 2017. NE's dynasty is in the past, this year is a new beginning.
     
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    Lol, you wish. I told you I know football. Stay safe during the storm, good luck :thumbsup
     
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    We'll see just how these silly assumptions hold up.

    Thinking BB suddenly forgot how to coach defense despite having 7 SB rings because of it is very ignorant.
     
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    They will find ways to hide most of their weaknesses from here on, Belichik is that brilliant a defensive, but sorry to say (Well, actually I am not that sorry), this one may be a bit more intense for them to fix.

    They may need to have to win shootouts with other teams to win, and if the line allows pass-rushers to continue to get to Brady as they did last night, this may be a bit tougher for Bill then years past.
     
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    It's not about that, it's about talent. I told you they would miss Chris Long which they will, but I know you will never admit you're wrong until you absolutely have to like with your "silly assumptions" with Gase. You can laugh or dismiss me all you want, but at the end of the day I told you, I know football.
     
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    KC seemed to have like 4 jakeem grants out there. NE couldn't handle the speed, especially sideline to sideline.
     
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    I predict one of them will win. :D Here's to both of them getting a tie this week. :thumbsup
     
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    That's what the NFL is about, why do you think we have Jakeem, Stills, Parker, and Drake on the roster. The fact NE looked so bad against a somewhat talent deficient offense, is an excellent sign for us. Ninkovich was a huge loss, they are going to have trouble getting after the QB all year long...
     
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    It was rare seeing NE spend big money in F/A. They aren't known to do that. The Gilmore signing surprised me, while I felt, he's a good player, I also felt he's slightly overrated. Maybe this was an omen. A sign of desperation on their part. What's laughable, is many media types were talking as if NE was capable of going undefeated. I'm not saying they wont win, but I'm beginning to feel, like there are small cracks in the armour?
     
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    NE was in the bottom half of the league for sacks last year and middle of the pack for INT's yet they still allowed the least amount of points in the NFL by a long shot.

    Being more interested in splash plays than what really matters should be a red flag for knowledge about the more important factors of the game.
     
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    Chris Long was not some key cog in that defense. wtf?
     
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    I think Gilmore had known the play before the snap somehow. It was changed by Hill. He exposed the cheating. Gilmore was playing a out pattern
    NBC Sports - ProFootballTalk: Tyreek Hill called the play that resulted in a 75-yard touchdown
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...he-play-that-resulted-in-a-75-yard-touchdown/
     
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    This happens all the time. It's called tape study and playcall tendencies.

    Cheating? . . . oh god.

    It was an excellent playcall by Reid - 3 verts vs Tampa 2 and McCourty over played the inside vertical.
     
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    Definitely was.

    And the phantom offset on the goalline was priceless. I was like surely they aren't putting that ball back at the 2 but sure enough they did.

    Gronk was getting held up under the chin in his pads every time in his vertical stem.

    They didn't call it. Maybe cause he does as much of that as anyone
     
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    NE could take several steps back and still win the division by several games.
     
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    Ok you got me. Need an explanation o_O
     
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    Rumors here in NE is Nink would come out of retirement if asked. And he just may be asked.
     
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    They'll get it all fixed. Don't put it past Belichick to make some more trades before the deadline. I don't expect their defense to be as good as last year but I'm sure it will be top 15.

    I'm more interested in their offense. If they really are changing to a more vertical offense this could be interesting. Brady has never been a good deep ball passer and his ball placement has never been very good either...guys like Edelman and Welker just made him look good cause they were good at catching passes that were thrown slightly behind them on those crossing routes. Lets see if they keep throwing deep though...40 year old arm throwing deep more than he ever has in his career...we'll see how the arm looks at the end of the season.
     
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    The schemes the star in the New England d. Not any player

    They seem to lack range and athleticism at lb primarily and could use another edge pass rush piece although that sack production is highly scheme driven too.

    They definitely miss Edelman cause there's no longer the go to underneath option despite coverage. Cooks is a vertical player he wore coverage like drapes on stick routes last night and doesn't physically compete at the catch point. Plays small

    They will work away from him on 3rd downs soon enough and implement more picks and rubs to try and offset an obvious lacking element in that wr corp.

    This might be the year they have to trade for a win option on the boundary
     
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    The scheme calls for them taking out the 1st option and they did a good job of taking Kelce out of most plays. They just weren't ready for Hunt who pretty much surprised a lot of people. I really liked that kid especially in the senior bowl but I didn't expect that type of performance.
     
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    I'll go over some key points later. As of right I'm going out back to enjoy the sun and pool with the fam while we have the chance. :thumbsup
     
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    It's tyreek hill that's fueling that train
     
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    It goes even further than that. NE's defensive strategy of making you play "left-handed" deals with taking away every player's strength and forcing them to do what is uncomfortable for them, not just taking away the top playmaker.
     
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    Gilmore had a good game yesterday, I thought it was a good pick up for NE.
     
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