Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by phinatic1399, Jan 24, 2013.
Honey Badger doesn't give a ****.
I'd draft him in the 3rd. Hell...if we trade down and pick up an extra 2nd, I'm taking him the 2nd round. C.Patterson, Eifert, C.Long , Honey Badger with those picks.
You can dislike it but if he was a projected 1st rounder, freakish athlete and the only reason he dropped was because of weed (?)...then forget that.
Honey Badger is extremely talented, and throws his body around like no one I have seen in many years.
He was projected Rd. 1 before the suspension, despite being undersized.
Screw it, I'd take him at 3rd. round if he is still there. His talent is off the charts
I don't think he would be a Philbin type player. We've seen Philbin purge the roster of trouble makers in Marshall and Johnson. Philbin doesn't like problems with the law.
potential late round steal here fellas...nickle corner with serious ball skills and a real nose for the football in all facets...the ball finds him...
I think he is overrated. Jimmy Wilson-esque but a better kick returner.
Id take him round 5 or later...Maybe late 4 (at the earliest!!)
That seems to be true, but nevertheless they they all were - interviewing him. Coyle says he wants impact players. I'm not sure if Mathieu really demonstrated he was worthy of the legendary status with his performances against the better college teams, but he is raw material that could be something we haven't seen in a Fins uniform before. He could also be a total bust.
We've seen with the Egnew backlash that the fans don't really trust JI to experiment with guys who need a lot of moulding. If he drafted Mathieu, I'd certainly respect him for his balls, if not necessarily his reasoning.
There certainly aren't many "impact playmakers" in this year's DB class. Poyer is interesting for his pick rate, Teo (despite the circus) has an amazing int rate for a LB. After those guys, the other names with turnover records in college come with plenty of deficiencies. Amerson is an example at CB, but he might make a very handy NFL safety.
Late (3-4)round nickle corner and KR? I don't think he's this regime's kind of player but he has a knack for making plays.
I agree that he's a nickel back/special teams star. I wouldn't take him earlier than round 4 at best. Not sure if I would bring him to Miami at all. There have been alot of stories flying around locally about him, his level of intelligence, and his inner demons. Just reminds me of a Pac Man type guy.
Worth a look with one of our 3rd's
YES!!!!! I'd love this kid on our team
Size (thus, durability) is a concern, I don't think attitude or off-field activities. Just a gut feeling.
Someone's gonna pick him in the second day.
Is he able to attend the NFL Combine? if yes, then i can see someone picking him up on day 1. The kids explosive, and just always has a knack for being around the ball. Plus training in boca raton with patrick peterson's dad isn't to shabby either.
I understand the necessity of looking for steals and acorns, but damm, we have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. That is where the blue chip players are located.
I hope they are sending the whole scouting department to look at players that can help us immediately and could have pro bowl potential.
This honey badger might be a great player, but he is carrying some baggage. We must draft players that are intelligent and have a track record of great performance.
Note to Irelands minions trolling the web sites for player suggestions...we need play making WR's(2), CB's(1), safety(1), DE(1).
Completely agree. I wouldnt let this kid out of the 3rd round. Despite the fact he may play nickel, he has playmaking ability that is rare. Thats really all this defense needs..... guys who can make big impact plays. Sacks and turnovers. This kid is a ball hawk. Id get him on the field as often as possible.
In the new era of the NFL you need as many corners you can get your hands on.
Yeah he smokes some weed, hell most everybody on this fourm does as well, including myself, don't let that effect you scouting.
Dude makes plays, and in the nickel he would be a beast.
Would absolutely use a third or fourth on him. Take a chance.
I don't think he slips to late rounds(5/6/7). A risk taker like the 'Pats will snag him @ 3 or 4. I agree with some of you 'Fellas though. I have doubts Philbin is willing to risk it. I think I would at 3 or 4.
Weed graps some folks different then others. So that is a concern believe me I have seen it do some disastrous things as a high school coach. But if you feel as a scout what you have gained from interviews that the reward out ways the risk you get this guy in the third. I would not be shocked if someone jumps on him in the late 2nd.
Listen this should not be a debate. We have so many picks in the second and third round we must draft him. This is the kid of risk we need to take if we want to get to the next level. We have to trust our coaches and our players to keep him in line if we draft him keep marshall and carroll and sign a Fa cb thats cost a little less we will inrpove our secondary and save most for other holes we need to ffill thoughts?
Hoops, I've never really watched alot of film on him but what would you say about converting him to a FS? I know that he is only 5'9" but he never shy's away from contact and has just an uncanny knack at making plays/turnovers. Also and probably just as important, does he have the mental fortitude upstairs to play FS? Just a question I have always wondered, expecially now that Clemons is expected to be a FA. If he is there with our 2nd 3rd round pick I wouldn't be unhappy in the least with the selection.
Go get him. He's a very talented player. If we can have Jimmy Wilson, who shot someone, on the team; than we can have this kid. I like him, he sounds motivated. He sounds like he has something to prove. Go get him.
I'll pass, I've worked with too many addicts to believe the bullshiit hes spewing.
Not before round 4.
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A valid point.
should of just kept vontae
puff, puff, pass on him!
Good, let New England pick him up after the fourth round. There due to make a serious mistake on the way to their crumble. The man can't play if he suspended. I've seen too many of these types jump in someone's window and go to jail instead of play football. T
A playmaker! Id take a chance...
Because the rehab centers are just filled with people addicted to weed.. Please.
It doesn't grip you like coke or heroine. Keep in mind these are young boys who are stars at their universities. He had some fun and made some unwise decisions. He says he's changed for the better and is going in the right direction. Why not believe him. Not like you can't drug test him and see if he's lying. High-risk, High-reward.
I understand he has great special teams ability. I'm just not so sure that his Honey Badger name and hype haven't over valued him as a corner. Janoris Jenkins from my gators was a similar case, but he was CLEARLY one of the top corners/players in the country without all of the hype.
I'd take a laaaaate round flier... But doubt some team won't reach thinking they can change him.
Steal at 3 or 4
We could and have made worse decisions with our third/fourth round picks if we were to select this guy. He was an outstanding returner along with the ability to get turnovers; i wouldn't be upset with this selection.
Weed is not a drug that "****s" your mind up. Me and my old man smoke it regularly and we co-own a business and both are very successful at our job.
It's not gonna make him go crazy and beat his women or kill somebody.
IT'S ****ING MARIJUANA
Hopefully he has grown up.....who hasn't done a little weed in college? I think his 5'9" height worries me, but LSU has cranked out a lot of good Corners. He is worth taking a look at.
They will do their due diligence. Investigate, interview, interview again, piss test him, have a guy with bino's across the street from him everywhere, check his eyeballs....
then double up at CB on draft day! lol
He's undersized, has repeated off the field issues and has a nick name.
What will he be like when he has money in the bank?
:lol::lol: addicted to weed :lol::lol:
Someone takes a flier on him earlier than rd 3....
A nick name is a negative now?
He can't be a late round steal because he'll never make it to the late rounds. I have no idea where he's rated but that doesn't matter. I've seen this type of situation time and again over the decades, enough to trust my instincts. If it's a troubled playmaker but not someone with a heavy criminal or substance abuse background, they always go earlier than expected. Wherever you think he'll go, raise it one full round and you'll be closer to accurate.
Weed is not his issue. It's something beyond weed. Everyone who knows anything about him knows that.
Care to fill us in on the info you have?
Actually its weed and only weed. A friend of mines knows him personally who went and played football at LSU who also happens to smoke weed as well and has smoked multiple times with tyrann. Sorry bro but good try.
the whole scout team?WOW i hope they send them all for players that have a real future after they get drafted
:rolleyes2:Nothing like going after the player with the worst character in draft
Only problem with that is the NFL has this random drug testing system and they sort of frown upon failing those. Whether it messes with your mind or leads to other illegal activity is irrelevant