Poll: Worse player - Pat White vs. Naanee

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Who tarnished the franchise more?

Poll closed Oct 7, 2012.
  1. Pat White

    64 vote(s)
    53.3%
  2. Naanee

    56 vote(s)
    46.7%
  1. Markcalius

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    A quarterback that never completes a pass? Or a wide receiver who spontaneously fumbles his only reception?
     
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    the second round pick, of course.
     
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    Benefit vs. Cost
    P. White without contest
     
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    Pat White, no question about it. He was a 2nd round pick, Naanee was a low salary free agent pick up.
     
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    Naanee at least had respectable stats for a year. Pat didn't complete a freakin pass!
     
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    Exactly. Relative to the opportunity cost, Pat White might very well be the worst player in franchise history. If it's not him, he's certainly on a very exclusive list along with Eric Kumerow, Eddie Moore, Yatil Green, Don Reese, Billy Milner, Darryl Carlton and Jackie Shipp. Guys like John Avery, Tedd Ginn, Jason Allen, Sammie Smith and David Overstreet (like Green, it's not his fault, but still) were terrible but at least did something. The guys on the first list were complete losses.
     
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    At least Naanono could block once and a while.
     
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    This all depends how you look at it. (being it's kind of asked 2 different ways) Did anybody really know what White may do in the NFL? With LN we had tape to look at, should have known what he was about. PW at least seemed to have promise in the Wildcat back then.
    If we are asking worst pick up...then yeah, White and his 2nd round price tag. This title just says worst player though. In those terms I give it to Naanee. At least catch a dang ball. White wasn't hired/drafted to be starter, just a gimmick guy.
    Now when the question then reads who tarnished the franchise more. yeah, it would be the PICK of Pat White, not White himself.
     
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    Pat White got a first down and at least one yard.
     
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    I prefer Legedoodoo
     
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    i think overstreet died before he ever played for us. could be mistaken though.
     
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    Legadon't was my favorite nickname.

    Anyway, I'm amazed people are willing to ignore the pick spent on White in choosing Naanee in this poll. Only in the context of opportunity cost does this kind of exercise make even marginal sense, otherwise there's a whole history of practice scrubs and other barely rosterable maggots who rank far below even Naanee in franchise history. Naanee made very little dent in the scheme of things. He didn't cost a pick, a ton of money, lose a game or get anyone hurt. We'll forget about him soon enough.

    White, on the other hand, will live on in Infamy. And for good reason. He was an embarrassment on the field, perpetuated a joke gimmick of an offense, and was also taken just a few picks before the likes of Connor Barwin and LeSean McCoy.

    ---------- Post added at 10:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 PM ----------

    No, he played some in '83. Even caught a touchdown pass from Marino, I believe.
     
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    Pat on dat! like Smokey said, "… you got knocked the f**k out!"
     
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    If Matthews is active instead of Naanee, not sure we lose the Arizona game. He could've dropped that pass or fell flat on his face after hauling it in, either of which would've made the win much easier than the non-contact fumble, which has to be one of the worst plays I've ever seen any WR make, ever.

    Of course, some of the throws Pat White attempted were some of the worst pass attempts I've ever seen too.

    BTW - go back and look at that 2009 draft as a whole. That draft is chocked full of busts and disappointments, all around, not just our team.
     
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    Except, as bad as it was, Smith's INT and the resulting long touchdown made Lega's booboo irrelevant. It didn't lose us the game at all.
     
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    Well I don't have the machine that takes me to the parallel universe where he holds on to the ball instead of fumbling, but I'd like to think we score a TD on that drive, eat up a bunch of clock and perhaps don't leave Az any time to get their late TD.

    Who the hell knows what happens if the guy holds on to the ball, but I do know it would've increased our odds of winning dramatically over what he actually did. The odds of Az not scoring from inside the 5 after that turnover were extremely low, we got lucky. If he didn't cost us the game, he damn sure tried!
     
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    We definitely got lucky. But I would just argue it's spurious to say it lost us the game considering what came after. Any one of two dozen things lost us the game before that even comes up.

    Anyway, it hardly matters anymore. He's gone.
     
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    People are being a prisoner of the moment with Legedu.
     
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    Leg actually did something in the league. White didn't. Leg had a far better career.
     
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    Pat White the little **** sucking **** who else did you want me to say, the little **** sucking ****...............
     
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    Pat White, no contest.
     
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    Yes, I ignored the pick when I voted for Legadu, because the poll was simply asking who was the worst player. Legadu was so unbelievably bad I would have rather seen us playing with 10 men on the field than for him to be out there. Every time Tannehill tried to throw the ball to him, something horrible happened. So yeah, between Pat White, and Gerbil Wilson, and Marc Columbo, and Legadu Naanee (all horrible, horrible recent players) I would probably vote for Pat White as the 3rd worst.
     
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    You wont me to say it again...........the little **** sucking little **** waste of air P White.
     
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    Marc Columbo. Add him
     
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    why not then just go crazy and add gerbil wilson too?
     
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    Crazy would be adding Wilson, Beck and Ginn. Then we could have a vortex of suckitude.
     
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    I gotta say it's not the players fault it managements fault in both cases for assuming they were something they weren't.
     
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    Option "C" ... Yatil Green (1st Round pick - #15 overall)
     
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    Pat White, no contest.

    Totally wasted draft pick.

    I still can't believe that he wanted to quit and his parents came to convince him to keep playing. How pathetic.

    His interviews were the all time worst player interviews of any football player in the history of the NFL, 'sir'... :d-day:
     
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    Im sure White once successfully gave the ball to a running back, more than Naanee did.
     
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    Do you not have anything better to do than sit here and bash and poll 2 players that aren't even on the roster anymore? Spam forum.
     
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    While sitting in a boring University lecture? No, I really dont :)
     
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    Neither "Tarnished" the franchise. They were more like non-factors.
     
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    Leg has over 1000 receiving yards and also has 4 TD's in his career. Pat White.......not so much.........Pat White wins the sucktitude contest easily
     
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    This is my take on it. There are actually 2 questions being asked in this thread:

    1) Who tarnished the franchise more? Pat White. Spent a 2nd round pick on a bust.

    2) Worse player? Definitely Noonoo. At least Pat White had a couple first down conversions for us.
     
  36. uk_dolfan

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    Must have missed this in a dolphins kit :ponder:
     
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    Just pointing out that Leg at least did some things in his career while White was a massive bust that never completed a pass.
     
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    I voted Nanee as the worst player although he was a small risk, high potential reward inexpensive acquisition vs wasting a 2nd on wee Patty White.

    Did so because Leggo did nothing since he's been here at least that I can see dating back to exhibitiion season and has been getting a free ride at the expense of a Matthews or Hogan. Maybe we wouldn't have cut Cunningham who was snatched up for the Eagles PS squad immediately so in that respect he may have cost us exposure to another promising WR or two.

    OTOH, White was miscast, a poor choice, but he was a fine young man who reflected well on the organization rather than "tarnishing" it. I remember during a veterans honoring ceremony upiin Foxboro, he's the only one who shook each of the military's hands and thanked them for their service. He tried his hardest, but unfortunately it wasn't near good enough and I wish him the best whatever he ends up doing.
     
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    Only to those that nicknamed Patty and the 'WildPat' before he played a down in the NFL. Others heard his name read at the draft, and knew right then and right there....BUST.
     
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    Its Pat White, we didnt use any Draft picks on LEGADUDU
     
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    Ernest Wilford
     
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    yep Pat tried hard, except for refusing to switch to WR.

    I think the answer is Pat not just because he was a 2nd round pick, but because we drafted him to be a weapon.

    Legadu was signed to a 1 year contract with the expectations of him being camp fodder but he showed well during OTAs, OchoCinco had his episode, and Hartline had injuries. He wasn't signed to be a weapon and he had been known as a solid 3/4 WR in San Diego.

    Pat White was drafted to add another dimension to the Wildcat, but he never looked good. Hell, even Legadu had a couple catches in the preseason, White looked terrible against the 5th and 6th stringers. Plus that added dimension with him in the Wildcat? Turned into Pat handing the ball off in the shotgun. And I'll never forget him throwing a three yard pass into the dirt when the RB had NOBODY around him.
     
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    At least Pat White got us a couple of first downs in that "Pistol" formation we ran a couple of times. Too bad we lost a 2nd rd. pick on him. Naanee did absolutely nothing but fumble his only touch.
     
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    Comparing both is a crying game.
    Pat White costed a 2nd round pick that would have been a talent WR Mike Wallace. Also he was planned to execute the Wildcat and that was a disastrous waste of opportunities that delayed Chad Henne's development.
    On the other side Legedu Naanee was a relative cheap free agent that used a spot on a roster, that spot could have been used for similar quality WR or moderated talent elsewhere. A pathetic play turned him into laughingstock.

    Costs: A 2nd round pick & 1 high quality roster spot VS 1 low quality roster spot. ==================> Pat White
    Best Case Opportunity: A rookie Mike Wallace VS Today's Braylon Edwards. =====================> Pat White
    Team Expectations: A wildcat QB for 1/3 of the playbook VS WR2 role. ========================> Pat White
    Team Dependency: QB3 without functional replacement VS WR3 with 2-3 replacements. =============> Pat White
    Results: 0 of 5 passes, 81 rushing yards, 1 fumble in 13 games VS 1 pass, 19 yards, 1 fumble in 4 games. => Legedu Naanee
    Team Record: 6-7 VS 1-3. ====================================================> Legedu Naanee
    Effort: Made his best but was knocked out while playing VS Dropped or fumbled every pass on him. ======> Legedu Naanee

    DOLPHINS' WORST PLAYER WAS : PAT WHITE
     
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    2nd round picks should be starters. Not niche or gimmick players.
     
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    QFT! I actually think The Rancid Tuna, still on his ego trip to become a franchise rebuilder and prove that a contemporized version of the Single Wing works well, was scared that Belicheat was gonna grab White if we let him go by (and there was a rumor of the Pats strong interest) and end up out-Wildcatting our wildcat with White as the linchpin. Just another way Parcells screwed us.
     
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    Can someone just put it on a loop............lol
    Run home to mammy you little ****ing rat.

    [video=youtube;Uauae4JQ7MY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uauae4JQ7MY&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    **** it...I'm just glad neither of them are on the team anymore.
     

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