Pouncey making ROY push?

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  1. FinAtic8480

    FinAtic8480 A True Fan

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    Offensive linemen don't win that award,however if anyone should ever it'd be Pouncey. I honestly saw 3 of the 4 games this year,and haven't facepalmed once

    Hope he keeps it up.
     
  3. dFinsRule

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    Pouncey and Fields are our Mvp's so far this year , How depressing!,Pouncey looks like the real deal!
     
  4. jlfin

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    And yet some of the more uninformed members of FH have referred to Pouncey as just a 'decent player' in their lame attempts to attack Jeff Ireland's procurement of talent.
    Ireland may have made some mistakes, but Pouncey isn't one of them
     
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    Its Newtons to lose.
     
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    This Pouncey guy, is he the same one that couldn't snap a ball in college, the same high 'wasted No 15' draft pick of the fins, the same 'he is a guard, not a centre' Pouncey?

    If this guy goes on to be an all pro, which he very well could, then No 15 wasn;t too high a spot after all.
     
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    Next offseason is huge to find two more O-linemen to add to this line. With Long and Pouncey, there are some lynchpins in place for a while. Hitting on another interior guy in the mid rounds will be huge. I would swing for the fences and snag a FA Right Tackle in FA.
     
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    Cam Newton has OROY locked up.
     
  9. FinsBR

    FinsBR Dolfan from São Paulo - Brazil

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    As I said before, We still need to draft a LG, a RG and a RT on the first round. Just keep the same FO and coach and it will happen! Unfortunately by then Long will start to get old, so we can start all over.

    That´s it! Why try and fail drafting a skill position on the first round when we can draft lineman and be safe?

    C´mon guys. No matter how many Pro-Bowls Long has, he still wasn´t worth passing on Ryan.
     
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    Long is an All-Pro player. Ryan is a Bad Player.

    what
     
  11. KingNick88

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    Just because Ryan has done well in Atlanta, doesn't mean that he would have done well in Miami....
     
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    but...he HASN'T done well. what the hell are people looking at? he's beyond mediocre.
     
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    Amazing.

    We are only scoring a single touchdown per game. Our pass defense is non-existant. We cant consistently get to the other teams quarterback. We haven't won a game and are legitimate contenders for the first overall pick in next years draft. Oh, and our starting quarterback was (probably) knocked out for the year.

    And yet, people still feel that center was the way to go because Pouncey is playing adequately. Despite him playing at a "rookie of the year level", we still cant win a game. Thats the impact of a center. Thats our 15th overall picks impact on this team.
    "Safe" picks like Pouncey are the exact reason why we are in this mess.
     
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    what player could we have taken that has played as well as Pouncey has that would prevent us from being 0-4?
     
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    Probably none would have allowed us to run the table.

    But 1-3? Perhaps Ryan Kerrigan. Prince Amukamara. Maybe even Andy Dalton(who i did not like, but who is also a offensive rookie of the year contender).
     
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    Dalton would not be playing better than Henne right now. Kerrigan maybe?

    but, guess what? you don't draft players to win the first 4 games of their rookie season! Pouncey is very very good.

    fun fact: Henne and Dalton both have 4 TDs, 4 INTs and 868 yards passing. really makes you think......................or not.
     
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    Henne reached his peak, the same can´t be said about Dalton.
     
  18. hoops

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    pounceys got no shot at oroy if cam newton keeps playin anywhere near the level he's playin thru 4 weeks...forget about it
     
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    so by that logic any good qb would do bad here possibly
     
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    maybe Phil taylor or prince but really who cares one player is not goign to keep us from being 0-4 unless he is a helluva qb. maybe Mark Ingram would have here but has not been dominant yet,
    pouncey has no chance at rookie fo the year, he is on a horrible team and nobody that votes for rookie of the year is going to pay that much attention to the line. So far its Came Newton in a runaway and its not even close although phil taylor is looking very good at a position that is also quite overlooked
     
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    If Pouncey keeps it up I will gladly admit that I was wrong about him playing center (although I still think he would be better at guard as we have multiple centers and nothing at LG), but I still don't necessarily think he was the best pick there.
     
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    IMO, with the way the interior o-line was after last year, grabbing a stud center was a smart pick.
    settling on Colombo at RT? not so smart
     
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    Whether it was the right pick or not doesn't matter now, what matters is that at least he's playing his position at a high level. Having the 2 most important positions on an offensive line locked down with young talented players gives us an advantage when trying to lure a new hc and gm here. Those are 2 positions that won't have to be addressed for years (barring injury).
     
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    or till Big Jakes contract is up which I believe is 2013
     
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    Oh God :bobdole:
     
  26. hoops

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    he keeps playin the way he's playin right now and money won't be much of an issue with jake...right now he's gulp average at left tackle
     
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    This is year 4 of our same philosophy. And we still aren't winning. Oh, and we are drafting players that are expected to start right away. When we drafted Pouncey he was immediately named starter. So if they aren't expected to win right away, if the team isn't winning 4 years in, then at what point do you expect those players to perform well enough to win? Especially when those picks are "playing so great!"

    Fun fact: Andy Dalton has won games this year. Chad Henne has not. And i would imagine a 2-2 record compared to a 0-4 record does make people think.

    Pouncey could be the best center to ever play(he's not, hes not even the best center named Pouncey), and you are still seeing exactly what sort of impact that makes.
     
  28. Finland

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    Ya, so what. You could say that about any player.
     
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    if andy dalton wins rookie of the year i'm orville redenbacher...
     
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    Agreed. He's the best rookie QB I've ever seen. I've watched every snap he's taken so far, and it's been beyond impressive. He's where I thought he might be three years from now.

    As for DROY, I would vote for JJ Watt but I think Von Miller is going to end up winning it. The guy has four sacks and two forced fumbles already.
     
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    it's almost like they're on two totally different teams or something
     
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    Your right, one of those teams went 4-12, the other 7-9.

    Not to mention one is working with a first time coordinator(at any level outside of Arena or UFL). Plus its a well known fact that Marvin Lewis is one of the best coaches in the history of the game, right?
     
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    Thank you. I, for one, was thrilled with the pick. We got a great player to fill a position of need.
     
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    Total Defense YPG
    Miami: 30th
    Cincinnati: 1st

    uhh. i think there's a slight difference.
     
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    Ah, so total yards per game is the problem. So we should have drafted a defensive player instead of Pouncey?

    Got it.

    People can keep coming up with reasons as to why Pouncey is some all-world pick that every other team in the draft was a fool for passing on. At the end of the day, its still the same: we aren't winning games. With the 15th overall pick we could have had just as talented a player at a position of more value. I said it then and i have yet to see anything to change my opinion, we didnt get enough value for what we spent on that draft pick. That our team just didnt improve that much with that draft pick. And an 0-4 record seems prove that logic.
    I suppose thats how this regime will be eulogized: Could have taken someone more valuable.
     
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    no doubt...we didn't get good value for that pick...interior oline in the top 20 is never good value...but it appears we got a good player at least
     
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    Actually if he keeps playing like he is right now we will have problems
    The question is will money be an issue for Ross?
     
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    I got no problem with the Pouncey pick. He's a good player and there's nobody we could have picked in his stead who would have miraculously saved this abysmal defense.
     
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    GREAT PLAYER:err:
    after 4 games and he's a great player...what the he** has happened to us as fans
     
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    That award belongs to Cam Newton who by the way I wanted the Fins to draft badly!!!!!!!
     

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