Quarter Season Mock Draft

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  1. ChambersWI

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    I know it's still extremely early, but I do want to do semi regular ones as the season goes. We kind of know already what each team is starting to look like and what the needs will be. Still tough to project who will go where, but it's always a fun attempt. Looking forward to the feedback.

    1.Jacksonville Jaguars-Teddy Bridgewater QB, Louisiville Jacksonville is bad. REALLY bad. Like may be the worst team I've ever seen play bad. David Caldwell has a lot of work to do here. I still maintain that I was the first person to start the Tanking for Teddy movement, but whatever. Teddy isn't a perfect prospect like Andrew Luck, but he has a lot of qualities that you look for in a franchise QB.

    2.Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Marcus Mariota QB, Oregon I don't think any QB has seen his stock rise as much as the Redshirt Sophomore from Hawaii. Mariota can still go back to school for 2 more years, but rumors seem to be he's really considering entering early. With it looking like only a matter of time before the Bucs get rid of Greg Schiano. This could change if Mike Glennon shows enough, but I am no fan of Glennon and doubt he'll be able to change the fate.

    3.New York Giants-Jadeveon Clowney DE, South Carolina Clowney is arguably the best player in all of college football and can move all over the defense. The Giants won 2 Super Bowls with a great pass rush, and their top 3. Jason Pierre-Paul, Justin Tuck, and Matthias Kiwianuka, just haven't produced.

    4.Pittsburgh Steelers-Taylor Lewan OT, Michigan Mike Adams and Marcus Gilbert have looked awful at left and right tackle. I rate Lewan slightly ahead of Jake Matthews (though again I'm a Michigan homer) but you can't go wrong either way. Both would add toughness, leadership, and nastiness to a OL that tends to be rather weak.

    5.Oakland Raiders-Marquis Lee WR, USC Terrell Pryor has given the Raiders some hope at QB so I'm not gonna mock them a QB yet. While pass rusher could be an option, their D is playing tough even if it doesn't show. I think the biggest concern is getting their QB some weapons. I have Sammy Watkins rated a little higher than Lee, but Lee's experience in the West Coast system will make his transition a little easier in Oakland.

    6.Philadelphia Eagles-Louis Nix III NT, Notre Dame While a WR like Sammy Watkins would be tempting the Eagles need help on defense and Nix is one of those DTs that are really hard to pass up. He's played as a NT in a 3-4 for a few years already, but he can also add pass rush. He's a bit like Haloti Ngata in that sense.

    7.St. Louis Rams-Haha Clinton-Dix S, Alabama Rams need safety help badly. Clinton-Dix is by far the best one in the draft. He also allows them to do a variety of different things.

    8.Minnesota Vikings- Brett Hundley QB, UCLA The weapons are there for the Vikings to be a dominant offense, but Christian Ponder is holding them back. Matt Cassel has already proven he's not a starter in the NFL. Hundley could go as high as number 2 or he could fall a little lower.

    9.St Louis Rams- Sammy Watkins WR, Clemson Sure they traded up for Tavon Austin, but guys like Austin Pettis, Brian Quick, and Chris Givens leave a lot to be desired. Watkins should develop into a go-to WR that will allow Austin to flourish in the slot.

    10.New York Jets-Anthony Barr DE/OLB, UCLA Barr is a top 5 player in the draft arguably, but I could see him falling a bit due to being a better fir in the 3-4. I think the Jets will do whatever it takes to get Barr on their team.

    11. Carolina Panthers-Bradley Roby CB, Ohio State Panthers lost 2 games early this season due to shoddy CB play. Roby is the best CB in the draft IMO and should add a toughness that they miss

    12.Arizona Cardinals-Jake Matthews OT, Texas A&M Biggest need for the Cards continues to be OT even with Levi Brown returning. Jake Matthews easily could be a top 5 pick.

    13.Buffalo Bills-Jason Verrett CB, TCU The CBs outside of Stephon Gilmore suck. Corner play cost the Bills a game against the Jets. Verrett is probably the best CB not being talked about by most people. And no this is not a pick to piss silver off.

    14.Cleveland Browns-Johnny Manziel QB, Texas A&M The Browns have been sited at a couple A&M games this year, and Michael Lombardi reportedly loves Johnny Football. Johnny Football also seems ready to get out of college. Brian Hoyer has shown to be a more reliable option in 2 games than Brandon Weeden, but he's not a guy to rest your future on. Manziel has his issues, but he'll bring excitement to the franchise, and his own brand of leadership.

    15.San Diego Chargers-Cyrus Kouandjio OT, Alabama Phillip Rivers is back to kicking ***, but I'd be scared to death having King Dunlap as my starting LT. The Chargers got Kouandjio's teammate DJ Fluker in the last draft, and it would be smart to reunite the two in next year's draft.

    16.Tennessee Titans-Austin Sefarian-Jenkins TE, Washington Not a huge need with the addition of Delanie Walker, but the Titans do lack explosiveness there. Sefarian-Jenkins is also arguably the BPA at the pick as well.

    17.Atlanta Falcons-Will Sutton DT, Arizona State Despite having a field day against us, the Falcons DL hasn't been getting much pressure. I feel like Sutton is the most underrated player in the draft right now and feel that he will go higher once he tests out at the combine.

    18.Dallas Cowboys- Ra'Shede Hageman DT, Minnesota The Dallas D has really taken to Monte Kiffin, but they still need help up the middle. Hageman is having a great season with the Golden Gophers and is being mocked top 10 in some areas.

    19.Houston Texans-Tajh Boyd QB, Clemson Boyd can go anywhere in round 1, a lot depends on the kids that declare. The last 2 seasons it's becoming more and more evident that Matt Schaub can only get you so far. It's time for the Texans to try a new franchise QB.

    20.Baltimore Ravens-Mike Evans WR, Texas A&M Trading away Anquan Boldin turned out to be a bad move on Ozzie Newsome's part. The offense is missing the physical WR in the passing game. Evans potentially could go much higher with a good combine.

    21.Cincinatti Bengals-Ryan Shazier LB, Ohio State While the Bengals defense has been good, they are missing some speed in the LB corp. Shazier should help rectify that issue.

    22.Green Bay Packers-Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB, Oregon The Green Bay CB corp is really just a bunch of guys outside of Tramon Williams (who himself is only average to just a little above). Ekpre-Olomu is a bit on the small size, but he plays big.

    23.Detroit Lions-CJ Mosely LB, Alabama The LB corp in Detroit is nothing to write home about. Mosely could add some playmaking to the group.

    24.Cleveland Browns-Cyril Richardson OG, Baylor The Browns need some help in the middle of that OL Richardson has been absolutely dominant in Baylor's spread offense and is getting some top 20 love.

    25.Chicago Bears-Stephon Truitt DE, Notre Dame The DL could use another guy to get to the QB, as they've struggled a bit with that this season.

    26.Miami Dolphins-Antonio Richardson OT, Tennessee Sorry guys, didn't want to go cornfed, but I'm not really seeing much options otherwise. 18 sacks in 4 games is just too bad to ignore. Richardson is a bit raw, but has as much potential at OT as you'll find. He's a massive OT and moves quite well. Jon Martin has been so-so as a pass protector, but really good in the game. Tyson Clabo has been crap. At this point in the draft there really aren't many other ways to go.

    27.San Francisco 49ers-Brandon Coleman WR, Rutgers Getting Michael Crabtree back will help out their passing game a lot, but the truth is that right now the 9ers don't have a consistent threat at WR. Boldin has had 2 big games and 2 disappearing acts.

    28.New England Patriots-Marcus Roberson CB, Florida Aquib Talib has been great for the Pats, but he's playing on a one year deal. The rest of the Pats CBs aren't much to write home about.

    29.Kansas City Chiefs-Eric Ebron TE, North Carolina Anthony Fasano and Travis Kelce have both missed a lot of time meaning Sam McGraff is getting quite a few snaps at TE. Andy Reid's offenses rely more on TEs than you'd think so Ebron is a smart pick up.

    30.New Orleans Saints- Khalil Mack DE/OLB, Buffalo Need more players that fit the 3-4. Mack is a great player playing at a crappy school. He absolutely dominated the Buckeyes OL in Columbus earlier this season.

    31.Denver Broncos-Trent Murphy DE, Stanford When Von Miller comes back the pass rush should improve, but they still need one more guy. Murphy has been great for Stanford. He can also stand up and play Miller's position if need be.

    32.Seattle Seahawks-Kyle Van Noy OLB/DE, BYU Perfect fit for the defense as the Elephant Back.
     
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    if manziel goes round one I cant see anywhere else but the eagles
     
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    What do you see the Dolphins doing in round #2? Do you have any players in mind? perhaps another CB or Safety?
     
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    I'm really high on Manziel. He's my #1 QB of this class. As far as where he'll actually go, I can see anywhere from top 5 to somewhere in the 2nd half of the 1st. Also, I wouldn't count out Cincinnati when talking about team who could be looking for a QB in 2014.

    I think Matthews goes before Lewan.

    As far as I'm concerned, this is a really solid effort.
     
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    potentially TE or safety. It was tempting to mock either Ebron or Colt Lyerla to Miami in this mock but I felt I couldn't ignore OL.
     
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    How do you feel about Yankey the OG from Stanford? Most have him rated a 1st rounder.
     
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    I considered him for sure. I think like with most guards he's gonna have to prove it after the season. But for the future watch the LT next to him Andrus Peat. Stanford actually has a few other true sophomores (Kyle Murphy and Josh Garnett namely) who are gonna be studs. But I do like him

    I also briefly considered taking Cyril Richardson for Miami. Not the typical OG/OT you'd look for in the West Coast Offense, but he's very athletic for his size.

    As I said, I'll be a Michigan homer in that case lol. I do think Lewan and Matthews have separated themselves from Kouandjio though (whose not having a bad season, but doesn't look as good as he did last year)
     
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    i like the position fits for the teams you have put together...i would probably say the browns if they have pinkston and lauvao would not go richardson with that pick...

    nailed the steelers top need...tackle is obvious as can be...nailed the rams glaring weakness although i think dix that high is too rich the need is so obvious i think its very possible...absolutely horrid at safety saint louis is...

    jake matthews shouldn't get out of the top 5 but things happen...still i think teams are gonna wonder if lewan is a better right tackle fit in the pros...mathews is also more a zone scheme fit so he likely will go to a team that runs it...lewan i think is a fit for both but maybe as a pro more a power scheme ideal fit...

    cyrus is a player that i think is not playing at the same level as last year but i think san diego will scoop the highest rated left tackle on the board so very good call there...

    as far as i'm concerned olomu is too low...love the falcons pick in will sutton...i think you nailed it but if that guy goes to the senior bowl week and eats everyone they put across from him for lunch like i think he will that may be too low...not sure i'm a fan of all that weight gain...imo ideally he plays at 285and is a wrecking ball on the interior in the geno atkins mold...

    anyways good job guru...
     
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    Again, I'm not convinced Clinton-Dix is the top safety...and I see him up close. Furthermore, Saban just suspended him indefinitely.

    I see a couple of safeties that are at least the caliber of Clinton-Dix. Underrated players that will get their due soon enough.
     
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    If he declares; What about DeAnthony Thomas for the phins? He could be used like the Chiefs use McCluster.

    Or, there is another Duck... TE Colt Lyerla.
     
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    You mean like we used Reggie Bush...yeah, haven't seen that type of creativity from Sherman yet.
     
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    2 QB's people IMO are overlooking; Murray (UGa) & Mettenberger (LSU).
     
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    I like Murray a lot.
     
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    I like Mettenberger.
     
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    i like em both...
     
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    Slimm, you like UF's CBs? I gotta say I like em all, but Hargreaves is 18 years old I believe and already looks better than all of them. Always seems to be in the right position and already has 3 picks.
     
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    Like you're thinking. Those are two explosive players. But if I were guessing right now I think the OP nailed the selection. The Dolphins need a long-term answer at RT and Antonio Richardson would seem like a nice fit there.
     
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    Lack of ball skills with Purifoy, which is why he's never had an interception. He's stiff in his hips and has trouble breaking down properly in space to make open field tackles. He's a very rigid athlete with little fluidity to him. However, he earns high marks with his explosive physicality, and he's a great special teams player. Questionable demeanor and decision making off the field dings him a little bit in my eyes. He looks like his skillset would be a better fit at safety.

    Roberson is the more pure corner and better cover guy despite Purifoy's hype.

    Hargreaves is going to exceed both. He's already a terrific young corner. Reminds of Joe Haden early in his Gator career when he was the first true freshman to earn a starting job before the season even began in the history of Florida football. Hargreaves has the ability to be that good. Very similar builds, style, abilities, and mentalities.
     
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    Richardson looks like a right tackle guard to me....I don't see a great scheme fit...big dude though...lacks high end balance but he's hard to move...put together well...

    Purifoy doesn't tackle consistently enough...
     
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    Cyrus Kuandijo, come on down!
     
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    Purifoy essentially got his first career INT as I was typing this post. Returned it 42 yards for a TD. Also had a sack, FF, and 3 PBU's.
     
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    Tiny Richardson at LT in the NFL would worry me. I'd rather take someone more athletic than Richardson appears to be. Yankey is a scheme fit and can play all 5 positions, while Cyril Richardson may not be the perfect fit for the WCO, he's certainly capable of playing both guard spots as well as RT and could be a huge upgrade over what Miami currently has.
     
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    Purifoy does miss a lot of tackles. He also makes me nervous when they put him back there to return punts. They may want to get him more offensive snaps. I really hope we get Roberson back for LSU this Saturday.
     
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    Here would be my first three picks, based on need and projections right now...lots can change between now and April, so don't hold me to it. :)

    1. Cyrus Kouandijo, OT, Alabama
    2. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
    3. Nick O'Leary, TE, Florida State
     
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    yeah cyril would be the guy i'd want also but this teams tackle issues are the major concern going forward...ideally you get a damn tackle with that top pick imo...i'd love to get cyrus of bama but i dont see us ending up in position to do it...he's a true left tackle

    has had some issues this year but i really like the talent and athlete...

    that said i'd trade multiple high picks to be able to land jake matthews...left and right tackle versatility...perfect scheme fit...just toying with people this year...best ot prospect in the last 2 years draft
     
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    A kid I like a ton is Allen Robinson, the big wideout from Penn State. Nice, big target, but has some shiftiness to him and he looks like a competitive kid. He'd make a nice red zone target.

    Jake Matthews in the top 5 to the New York football Giants could happen.
     
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    I love Allen Robinson. I'm actually heading to the Penn State/Michigan game tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see if he matches up against Blake Countess or Raymon Taylor (both of whom are having good to great seasons)
     
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    Thanks, Chambers. I will look for your thoughts on Allen Robinson. I follow the B1G and like the kid alot. He's big, but unlike, say, a Marvin McNutt, he is not a stiff at all.

    Great job on the mock, by the way. Very interesting and informative read.
     
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    Yeah, I agree with your thoughts on Jake Matthews. Terrific player and I'd love to have him in Miami. Likely goes top 5 so it might take quite a bit for the Dolphins to move up assuming they are picking somewhere around 20. What are your thoughts on James Hurst from North Carolina? Also, would you trade up for Taylor Lewan?
     
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    only tackle i'd trade up for is matthews...hurst imo is more a 2nd round physical talent...i don't see great foot athlete or move athlete...a little stiffer than i'd prefer...with him and lewan both i may lean more nfl right tackle long term...although hurst strikes me as more a finesse tackle...i don't know i guess i need to take a longer look before i give my take

    i'm not sure what we are gonna be able to do at tackle come our pick...might have to take a guy like cyril richardson and play him at left guard and move cog to the right...got 11 more weeks before we settle into imo a pick likely in the 18-22 range...top of this class though if the guys come out is gonna be loaded with qb high picks so that will help us
     
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    I haven't looked at enough of the other positions to make a determination of the full first round....as far as lineman...

    I really like Hurst out of UNC....very good lateral movement, strong and has played exceptionally well this season.

    I doubt he makes it out of the top 15, but Su'a Filo of UCLA will most likely be the best guard in the draft.

    I also really like Martin (ND) and Yankey (Stanford) for their athleticism and versatility....both have played very well and can play any position on the line (more talented versions of Barrett Jones)
     
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    interesting take...lateral agility and movement is something we will absolutely need for this scheme...i think unc plays miami this thurs night...will set the dvr and key hurst...i like martin and yankey also
     
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    I listed Josue Matias as my top OG prospect prior to the season in my underclassman thread, and he is the best guard in college football in my opinion. The left side of FSU's offensive line is probably the best in the country from what I've seen. Matias and Erving form the best underclassman duo in the country.

    Aaron Donald has been a very good player for a long time, and is playing like a man possessed this year. He wrecked plays in the backfield against FSU in the season opener line up against Ruben Carter, who was a sophomore making his first start in place of Tre' Jackson. However, Donald was completely dominated by Matias when lined up across from him. It wasn't even close. The offensive coaching staff for FSU caught on to it.... watch the 5 yard TD run by Jameis Winston.... and pay attention to where they ran it. Watch Matias completely obliterate Aaron Donald.

    Matias, Gabe Jackson, Mason Walters, Brandon Linder, Su'a-Filo, Trai Turner, and Spencer Long are playing the best football right now among interior offensive lineman.
     
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    i want to see how dion bailey looks at safety for usc gainst dame this week...i'd really like to replace chris clemons this offseason...and that guys instincts at lb at least were top notch
     
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    Deone Bucannon is the kid Miami needs to be looking at to replace Clemons. Among others, there's plenty that would represent an upgrade.... but Bucannon is a special player.
     
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    I think Matthews goes 2nd or 3rd overall, but yeah it could depend on some of those qb's. I also have Lewan as a right tackle and think that's his best spot. He could probably play LT in the pros and could end up there. I'll have to check out more on Hurst. I see Antonio Richardson at RT as well.
     
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    Hey Slimm. I see you didn't list Cyril Richardson. What's your thoughts on him? Also interested in your opinion on James Wilder Jr.
     
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    I have Richardson in Tier 1 of my Senior offensive guards along with some of the guys I just mentioned if you check at the top of this forum. However, I don't think he's playing as well as some of these other guys are right now. For example, I just watched him get a terrible block in the back penalty against Kansas St. that an experienced Senior like him just has to know better. He's always had good talent...

    Conversely, you look at a guy like Brandon Linder that I've been high on for years, and he held his own at right tackle last night for Miami in place of Seantrel Henderson who was in and out. I've been watching Linder closely for 3 years, and I never come away without being impressed.

    Gabe Jackson is just a dominant player, period.



    I have Wilder in Tier 2 of my underclassman running backs.

    I think he should be a lot better than he is. Off the field, durability, stiffness in his hips are all questionable. Super strong... extremely difficult to tackle despite upright running style... which is rare. Karlos Williams may be the better back going forward after making the switch from safety... which is saying something because James Wilder is still pretty good.
     
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    I want LSU/WR Odell Beckham Jr in Miami next year. He's fantastic.
     

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