Ramses Barden anyone?

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  1. WhatsUp

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    Lets sign Barden...he looks like he could just stand in the endzone and catch passes in double coverage.

    This guys a monster. I'm going to youtube him now to see if hes any good:)

    Ramses Barden, 2009 NFL Draft Prospect

    [​IMG]Wide Receiver

    6' 6" 228 lbs

    Cal-Poly

    Senior

    Strengths: Size, strength, hands, athletic ability, jumping ability

    Weakness: Speed, level of competition,
    route running

    NFL Comparison: Marques Colston, New Orleans Saints

    Small School Football has come a long way, last year (2008 NFL Draft), CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie was selected 16th over-all by the Arizona Cardinals and in the 2007 NFL Draft LB Justin Durant was selected 48th over-all by the Jacksonville Jaguars. NFL Scouts have firmly placed their eyes on the small school football talent. NFL clubs are literally littered with unknown players from small schools, after the 2007 season there were approximately 220 players on active NFL rosters from non division 1 (BCS) schools. This year the top small school talent looks like Cal Poly wide receiver Ramses Barden.
    The 6’ 6” 228 pound Barden considered declaring for the NFL Draft last year as a junior. The NFL advisory committee projected him as a fifth-round pick. He decided to return to Cal Poly for his senior season, which if history is any indicator, was a very wise move indeed, because out of those 220 small school players that I mentioned earlier, almost all went to college for their entire four years. Small school players just don't enter the draft early, even the late, great Heath Benedict came back for his senior year.
    Cal Poly knows a little bit about players with NFL caliber talent. Defensive end Chris Gocong earned the Buck Buchanan Award and played in the East-West Shrine Game. Gocong also was named to the AFCA All-America Team and was chosen by the Philadelphia Eagles in the 3rd round of the 2006 NFL Draft. Cal Poly's highest picks ever; Barden, however, might just break that record in the 2009 NFL Draft.
    While it is highly doubtful Barden has the kind of meteoric rise up the draft boards that CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie did last year, with a strong season and a solid post season, Senior Bowl, East West Shrine Game and NFL Scouting Combine performance, he could sneak his way into the second or third round of the 2009 NFL Draft. In fact, small school expert Josh Buchanan has him projected as the top ranked small school prospect and a possible 3rd or 4th round pick entering the 2008 season.
    Barden is obviously very big, strong and athletic and while he consistently displays the ability to separate from defenders, he is not a rocket. His speed is projected to be around 4.55 to 4.60 in the 40 yard dash. Barden does however get the job done on the football field, in fact he can completely take over games at times, just ask Weber State and Idaho State. On September 15th 2007 he destroyed Weber State catching 9 passes for 219 yards and 4 TDs, and the next month (Oct 27th) against Idaho State, he embarrassed the Bengals catching 10 passes for 268 and 3 TDs. He completely dominated those games and caught the attention of NFL Scouts.
    Last season (2007) Barden, led the Great West in receiving yards (1,467) receiving TDs (18) and yards per catch (25.7) in earning first-team all-league honors for the third straight season. He was named the co-Offensive Player of the Year in the Great West in 2007 and was named to his third all-Great West first game. Barden has been added to the Walter Payton Award watch two years in a row and is a 1st team 2008 pre-season division 1AA (FCS) All American.
    Major Accolades:


    2007
    • All-Great West First Team
    • Great West Co-Offensive Player of the Year
    • Walter Camp Football Foundation All-American
    • American Football Coaches Association All-American
    • All-Associated Press First Team
    • The Sports Network All-America First Team
    • CollegeSportsReport.com FCS First Team
    • Great West Player of the Week (Sept. 2)
    • College Sporting News National Player of the Week (Oct. 29)
    2006
    • All-Great West First Team
    2005
    • All-Great West First Team
    Career Receiving Totals (3 Years)
    • 139 Catches, 2,947 Yards
    • 32 Touchdowns
     
  2. zach8111

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    he is good and i have been on here talking him up for months now
     
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    He runs poor routes, will take 3 years to develop (like Ginn).
     
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    He'd be a good RZ target, based on his size alone. If we don't get Nicks or Britt, he'd be worth looking at in the 3rd/4th.
     
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    and like most all WRs in the NFL
     
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    Ive liked him for awhile, he is a beast on jump balls!
     
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    CedarPhin Finheaven Hall of Shame Hammered

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    He could be a Vincent Jackson-type WR.

    Jackson came from a small school too...Northern Colorado or something IIRC.
     
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    One of the bigger knocks on him is that he has trouble getting seperation. Jeff Ireland has already gone out and said that he's not interested in WR's that can't get seperation. Miami already has one in Wilford, we don't need another.
     
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    well he is big and physical he wont need much seperation if he out jumps them
     
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    He won't need to get seperation?

    So, would you like to just have Pennington flail lobs all day and just hope Barden comes down with them all? Or shall we get a precise route tunner like Hakeem Nicks or Jarrett Dillard and let them get extra yardage from being open? If Barden has to go up and get every pass, you're risking yac.
     
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    DAMN RIGHT RAMSES BARDEN! BEST PROSPECT IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL RIGHT THURR. He's mad smart too. He's got a great character for this team and will be willing to work hard and learn.
     
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    i take nicks ovaer any reciever but barden in the 4th or 3rd i take him any day he will be real good he is a safe pick IMO he just that high in the draft cause of its a small school i wouldnt take nicks cause that first pick is for defence
     
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    fix his name under yo pick
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I like Ramses, but his route running/seperation skills could use work.

    He would still need to get seperation...even though he instantly becomes a red zone threat. I still like the route running of Nicks and Dillard...that are just great at the craft.
     
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    i see were u r goin but just like i said he is a good receiver for a third or fourth
     
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    I think if we're not taking a wide receiver early, we should take one late. Dudley Guice is my pick right now.
     
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    Fix yo mouf.
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    The guy is a touchdown machine, I've seen it with my own eyes having watched many Cal Poly games. He shone as the lone NFL prospect every time he played and took full advantage - his productivity backs that up.

    With a draft class of receivers littered with potential headcases, pot-smokers, and high bust potential (especially the highest rated ones), Ramses shines bright. If we draft this guy, one thing I know he will do is score in the red zone and that is a guarantee.
     
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    Ok. I really like Barden, but you need to calm down...:foundout:
     
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    Miami Heat can have him. NFL - dont think so.
     
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    Supposedly the Fins like him as well. He is a 3rd round possibility.
     
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    He is a very intriguing player, as long as he is not picked too early (1st day), I obviously like him.
     
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    Wilford has problems with those things at the end of his arms. He can have the full length of a football field of seperation and I wouldnt put my money on him making the catch.
     
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    Barden is goin in the 2nd round and i want him with our later one !!!
     
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    I think he'll end up going in the late 3rd-early 4th.
     
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    I like Barden and have wanted him for a while. All the scouting reports say he needs a ton of work on his route running. They also say he has suspect hands and his conditioning is a big concern. ALso he is not a fluid guy and is lazy. Incosisitent effort and so on. I think I would almost rather wait and grab Aaron Kelly in the 5th or 6th round. He is 6'4" 204lbs and runs a 4.5/40. He is productive and has great hands. He uses his body well just like Barden. He has great leaping ability and he is fluid. I just think we can get the same type of player that actually played good competition a couple of rounds later. I also like Marko Mitchell at 6'4" 218lbs and with a 4.46/40. Barden with his work ethic , bad routes, and questionable hands could be the next Wilford. I would hate to waste money on Wilford and waste a 3-4 round pick on a clone
     
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    R u serious man u must not be able to spell lol and please get of his jock
     
  28. Xeticus

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    I think we've met with him at some point. I would like to grab him in the 3rd round if he's there.
     
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    Scott Wright put up his player comparisons and his comparison for Ramses Barden was to Plaxico Burress. I already wanted the guy, but this made me want him more.
     
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    If he made it to the 4th round, you'd have to consider him.
     
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    I'd be happy with him in the 3rd. In the 4th he'd be a hell of a deal. Good seeing you post again CK. Haven't seen you in awhile.
     

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