Ranking all 32 Offensive lines in the NFL......

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  1. jvw

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    They have us ranked at 20 before the season starts, I will take that any day of the week.....I am not sure who football savages is but I like what I read....


    http://footballsavages.com/2014/06/28/ranking-all-32-offensive-line/


    [h=2]20.) Miami Dolphins[/h]Starters: Branden Albert, Dallas Thomas, Mike Pouncey, Shelley Smith, Ja’Waun James
    Contributors: Billy Turner, Tyler Larsen
    The Dolphins offensive line was the talk of league last year, for a lot of the wrong reasons. They made some major upgrades for 2014 including their big free agent splash Branden Albert. Albert is a consistently above average performer if he can stay healthy. I loved what they did in the draft by taking Billy Turner and Ja’Waun James. James should start right away and Turner won’t be far behind. Billy Turner is Sean Taylor trapped in an offensive lineman’s body.
     
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    That's certainly an improvement, although it looks like they didn't take into account Pouncey's injury/absence which will clearly affect the line at least at the start of the season.
     
  3. jvw

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    Good point, would like to see how that line handles his absence in training camp......
     
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    Tackles are without a doubt an upgrade. May see a hit with run blocking when it comes to the guards, and Pouncey's absence won't help that, but we're not going to see guys crash in from the edge like they did basically all of last year. Also opens up the screen game a lot since our tackles could barely jog.
     
  5. dlockz

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    Left tackle is an upgrade, outside of that who knows. The guards on the surface seem a downgrade.
     
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    i don't understand how you can think that. John Jerry had consistent been our worst lineman for multiple seasons, until last year's fiasco. Smith would surely have to be considered a PUSH at worst. at LG we had a undrafted free agent starting, who is still on the team. whoever wins the spot whether it is Thomas, Turner or Brenner with an extra year of development has to be considered better than what we had at the position last season.
     
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    finally have some depth with Larsen, turner, garner, and Brenner as back ups. hopefully dallas steps up, if not there are a couple hungry guys behind him.

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    we got a lot more athletic up front. which is what we need in a zone scheme
     
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    You can blow as much pixi dust up your own backsides but the fact remains we have only 1
    proven offensive line man worth a damn starting the season...
    We'll find out soon enough where we stand when we play against an up an coming Buffalo defensive line the second game
     
  9. So Be

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    Not knowing who the site and link given are does not give any credibility to what they have to say, even though you may like it.

    I have to believe anyone, whose opinion may matter, is waiting to see our guys play some. JMO
     
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    Don't think we will have to wait that long. Mr. Bill has months to prepare for attacking this OL, and it could get ugly for RT IF these guys do not step up.
     
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    By saying we downgraded, you would have to say that John Jerry and Richie Incognito are better fits for the ZBS than Dallas Thomas and Shelley Smith. That would be a very hard argument to make imo. Scheme fit alone makes our current guards an upgrade.
     
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    I think this is the first time since Philibin arrived that he has the athletic offensive lineman needed to run his system. I think the unit could be average with a chance to be better than average as the season goes on and players gain the cohesiveness that an offensive line needs.

    The loss of Pouncey is a big blow and there are still question marks, but essentially trading out Martin for Albert is going from well below average at LT to above average at the position. James should be an instant upgrade at RT. Neither Jerry or Incognito fit the system very well, while Turner and Thomas were athletic enough to play left tackle in college. Interested to see how it plays out.
     
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    Dallas Thomas couldn't crack the lineup last year when incognito was suspended so how is automatically an upgrade over him.. Keller got playing time while Dallas continued to sit. At this point Thomas is not an upgrade to anybody maybe he shall prove to be. as for Smith he struggled badly in passing protection and also was not good enough to take an injured lineman's spot.
    Now could they both be upgrades, its quite possible but at this point there is no way that Thomas who was a backup that found no playing time at all last year with two guys suspended is an upgrade. Jerry and Smith is probably awash but overall that's still a downgrade with Thomas starting

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    You8 just don't get it. If the reports are positive its very credible, if they are negative they know nothing.
     
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    Preseason will tell us about both the draft class and the new offensive line coach. It took both Webb and Sims about 3 years to to make it happen in the Marino years as all pros as a reference.
     
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    Well Webb was a probowler from year one as for an all pro yes it took three years but he was a top tackle right out of the gate. We definitely are not talking about players that struggled to even get on the field like many of our guys
     
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    We're starting multiple unknowns. How could we be ranked 20th?
     
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    U make a good point but we could be there
     
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    James is an upgrade. Anyone who thinks he isnt hasnt been watching the dolphins. Alberts is an upgrade over Martin. dallas Thomas is an unknown, but he cannot be any worse than Jerry, so at this stage, its a break even, although perhaps a slight edge as he is younger and now fit.. I loved Incog at G, loved his play, his aggression. I hope Turner displays enough to start and at least be good enough to stay there for the year, The loss of Pouncy is a massive blow. If Larsen can play centre to a good level, then the line should be good. Brenner, Garner are average backups.

    I still think we may be slightly better at O line that what we were last year.
     
  19. dlockz

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    No way to say James is an upgrade just hopefulness. You claim Thomas can be no worse than Jerry but Thomas earned no playing time on a horrible line lat year
     
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    I thought we already covered this explaining why "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight" didn't make a concerted effort to retain Gibson, who led all receivers that year in 3rd down and TD completion percentages. But to reiterate, when the HC who got fired from his last job by the league's most forgiving owner, is also acting as the defacto GM, who has all of 6 winning seasons going on 19, 2 in the last 9 and zero in the last 4, and an OC who without the Colts laying down would have 2 winning seasons out of 8 and none in the last 3 are making the critical decisions - well, does their refusal to insert Smith reflect reality or the distinct possibility that once again that "gang" that couldn't shoot straight was typically misfiring? And did I mention they fired their DC too.
     
  21. dlockz

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    That's also explains why he was cut from Houston too I guess. I mean of course there is no way that Fisher might recognize if Smith was playing better in all that time. Both of thise winning percentages are better than our current coach in two years or current owner in 5 years.
    Lets no forget that Fisher was your favorite owner's top choice as coach but couldn't agree because he didn't want Ireland. A year later neither did the same owner. By your logic nothing our owner ever does can be right since he has put out a non winning product every season he has owned and resigned his coach and GM in consecutive years only to end up firing them the next.
     
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    My favorite owner is Mickey Arison and he hired my favorite exec/GM.. so what you're spouting is a fallacy. And something tells me if Ross let Philbin hang in there as long as Bud Adams and Kronke did/have, he'd be dong better than zero winning seasons in 4 and definitely 2 in 9. Fisher should base his decisions on the George Costanza strategy: if I feel it's the right thing to do, I'll do the opposite. And if Smith was so bad in Houston, why did Fisher bring him on? 6 winning seasons in 18 and half? Come on, if Fisher thinks it's a sunny day, I'm bringing my raincoat. Gibson has already proved those 2 bozos wrong and I have no agenda to think their misuse of Smith was an anomaly to their overall decision-making records. Who doesn't believe that the Fisher/Schotty "braintrust" would have kept Bradford and traded the rights to Luck away if they had that opportunity? LOLOL

     
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    Their braintrust has been no worse than ours. Not that I like theirs any better than ours. I didn't want fisher and I definitely did not want philbin.

    As for Micky Arison football is so different than BAsketball you cannot even compare owners. Only in basketball can u compete for a championship then suddenly have only one player under contract.
    The only team I really admire in Basketball is the Spurs because they actually built a team from the ground up and built through smart drafting and trading.
    Im not a spurs fan but you have to admire how that team was put to together and beat the more celebrated team. Im a Celtics fan and hope we are on the right path but I give credit where its due.
    Basketball overall very teams really have a shot to win it all and a city like San Antonio constantly putting out a superior product while retaining players is downright amazing in the current NBA.
     
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    Maybe those guys on that site could rate the teams in order and we could just crown a SB champion now, saving future concussion lawsuits and a lot of pain and suffering by the players. We'd even have the draft order for next year all set. Plus, we'd know we would never again have a Bullygate, Spygate, Bountygate, or any other gate type scandal. Although I guess off season scandals would skyrocket as players would have even more time to find trouble. Gotta work that part out.:ponder:
     

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