Rebuilding The Heat

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  1. So Be

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    We have Bosh, Cole, Shazaam, and Wade with Haslem will soon follow. We are close with Chalmers, and also to a 2 year $20M deal with Deng. What' next?

    Forgot about McRoberts and Granger. That gives us 9.
     
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    Ariza is gone, and we are trying to keep Bird but, there is competition. Jones wants to stay but, see no reason to keep him.

    Wonder what Riley is thinking on Oden and Beasley?
     
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    You can almost guarantee that Justin Hamilton will be on this team. He has size and is having a pretty good Summer League so far. Ennis has also been impressive and should be in the mix to make this team. I'd definitely try to hold on to Beasley and even Oden at this point as well.
     
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    Ennes , Beasley , Oden , Lewis , Bird and Jones makes 15.

    Not saying we resign them all if they can find upgrades but it's not like we are rebuilding from scratch.


    * forget Hamilton who will probably make the team as well
     
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    Oden is intriguing. We had him for a year, and have no clue as to what coaches thought.
     
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    I don't see Lewis and Jones coming back, not sure on Bird with James wanting him in Cleveland. Wade's contract is going to be important to see if we will have the money to sign a mid range FA in the $5-7M area. I'll crunch some numbers after we get further along with the guys we are in the process of signing. If things go as planned, I'm thinking we are looking for some outside shooting at the swing.
     
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    Deng looks like a no. Which is fine granger or ennis can start at sf maybe beasley. If we get bledsoe we will be great I honestly think that'sa strong possibility. Riley and Wade wanna best Lebron and show him he made a mistake

    ---------- Post added at 01:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:54 PM ----------

    Hamilton is intriguing. He has the size and range we desire in a stretch 4 or 5
     
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    I think Riley ups the offer to get the deal done. There is no better option out there.
     
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    With Ray probably leaving I'd resign James Jones cheap just for some 3 point shooting of the bench. Lewis is old but really played well in the playoffs and should be an option if Deng does not sign.
    Both 1 or 2 year minimum deals.
     
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    I'm guessing we would like to get younger but can see Jones if no better option come available, and he does want to stay here.
     
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    Deng is signed for two years and 20 mil :up:
     
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    Deng gave in to Riley! Good deal hes worth 10 I think. Wonder what we give Wade now.
     
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    We overpaid Bosh, and will do the same for Wade and Haslem for the financial hits they took for the team. This may not be the best financial decisions for the team but, is the right thing to do and, believe me, that each and every player in the NBA does see that.
     
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    Yeah, read that a bit earlier from DF. Doesn't he sometimes just piss you off? JK/LMAO.
     
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    Really hope we resign Birdman now. Always loved his energy off the bench.
     
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    Na. One of my best buddies on here plus i never have to do twitter because he's all over it for us.
    Even though that prick did best me in march madness this year :chuckle:
     
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    I'd rather have Hamilton take his spot at this point.
     
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    Riley is doing a Great job. C/PF- Bosh, Mc Roberts, Bird, and Haslem is an upgrade. SF- Deng and Granger are good, and if Granger comes back from injury, could be better than good. SG/PG- Wade, Chalmers, and Cole are the same, aside from Allen.

    We were going to give James the max, which goes to Bosh, give Wade $15M a year for 4 years, which I hear we are still going to do, and give Bosh around $17-18M a year, giving Deng only $10M. McRoberts and Granger were on the exemptions, and the rest were under the Bird rule.

    So, as I have it figured, Riley could still spend $7-8M for a SG to be able to rest Wade. As I see the team now, I think we are around a top 4 seed in the East. One more VG move, and we may even be able to contend in the East. Well Done!!!
     
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    Not sure if Hamilton and Ennis are ready to contribute but, can see them on the roster.
     
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    Ennis sure looks ready to me. I hope he gains a rotation spot
     
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    Just hoping playing with LeQuit didn't **** up Bosh's game and that he can regain his Toronto dominant style of play. Was disappointed in the resigning of Chalmers... was hoping for new blood. Also, unlike Ennis, Shabazz hasn't looked so great this summer, so I hope that's a blip. But overall, Riles again is proving that if not the best GM decision making wheeler and dealer in all of sports, he's in the top 3 pantheon. And as far as those 2 year LeQuit and Deng deals go, aside from KD being available, considering a leopard like Gilbert doesn't change his stripes, - nor does an organization, and a good European coach is still an untested minor leaguer....like fishy said "we'll keep the light on. " LOL
     
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    We need a good back up SG, I love Wade but chances are he misses at least 15-20 games. Who starts if Wade is out? Who can we still sign?
     
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    Agreed on all but, did not see a better option at PG over Chalmers. Would it not be special if the Heat played the Cavs in the second round of the playoffs? I would be at every home game.
     
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    That is the missing piece, and there is not much out there. The best I see is Alan Anderson from the Nets, good defender and outside shooter.
     
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    Shabazz apparently injured his right thumb during summer league and has been wearing black tape on it. It might be affecting his stroke.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hopefully that's what is wrong. He unfollowed lebron and deleted all his tweets lol good man
     
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    If any of you guys could rewatch the draft, the thing that really stood out about Napier was how articulate he was. Everybody, and I mean everybody who was drafted said the same crap in the same way "Um, I'm just blessed to um be apart of a great um franchise um, etc." . . . Napier spoke with 0 um's complete confidence and wasn't phased by any of the spotlight. That kid is going to be ice . . . real good feeling about him.
     
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    Even more props to Bosh: turns out he had attractive alternative options but chose to remain faithful

     
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    Jim Calhoun loves him; can't find the exact quote, but called him one of the best college players he's seen in the last 10 years.
     
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    Really glad Birdman got resigned. Proof positive that white men can jump :)



    Good take on the Heat moves from Ira

    http://wqam.com/2014/07/14/ira-winderman-123/

    Ira thinks Lebron knew what he was going to do and should have given Riley a heads up before free agency started June 1st. I agree with that.
     
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    you want proof white men can jump? have you seen Tyler Johnson in our summer league? dude is athletic, honestly think he could have a solid NBA career. undrafted or not

    [video=youtube;QhJQIe5ZiUM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhJQIe5ZiUM[/video]
     
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    IDK if you watch first take or not. most of the time I don't myself. but Pat Riley wanted a one on one meeting with Lebron right after the season and he was told he can't meet with Lebron has to be a representative of his. Riley was pissed about that. according to Stephen A Smith
     
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    Someone else from Heat history, called the Kangaroo Kid, proved that years ago. :)
     
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    [video=youtube_share;ywLJ2UOmDDk]http://youtu.be/ywLJ2UOmDDk[/video]

    don't remember him playing for Miami but he can certainly jump :chuckle:
     
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    Shot at lebron from chalmers? He deleted it but it was caught

    "I'm glad to say I'm back in Miami, #Heatnation there's still some of us left. The real ones stay, the cowards are here for the good times,"
     
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    I agree with most of what he said, and have posted the same. I do not agree that James knew his choice 10 days earlier. Many are nitpicking on Miller being cut, where his kids sat, the Gilbert letter, etc. IMO, it came down to wanting to go home with his family vs wanting to stay with what he has built with close friends. That's no easy choice, and does take some time.
     
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    Never said he was a player but, Billy Cunningham was the original Kangaroo Kid at UNC before moving on to the 76ers. He was a majority owner of the Heat, with Lewis Schaffel before selling the team for $60M to Arrison. NOT a lot of foresight investment wise but, he could jump.
     
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    How can a guy who made like 3 shots in the Finals talk any sort of **** about James?
     
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    Ennis is more than ready.
    J-ham got some minutes in a few games last year, thats a reward for doing good work if nothing else.
     
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    Wade signs 2 years 34 million.
     
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    AP reported that but, then pulled back it's report. We shall see.
     
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    Either way we are out of cap space after wade and haslem signing. Its exception time we can trade cole and also use that 2 mill trade exception
     
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    With the way Napier is playing in the Summer Leage we cant afford to trade away Cole unless its for a Point Guard. I would hate to see Cole go... he is a spark off the bench and i love his defensive tenacity.
     
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    Wade
    Bosh
    Deng
    McRoberts
    Chalmers
    Cole
    Birdman
    Napier
    Haslem
    Grainger
    Ennis
    Hamilton

    Thats 12 . . . Would love to keep Oden and Beasley and top it off with Ray Allen to round out the 15.
     
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    I don't see Cole going anywhere. Even though he was re-signed everyone knows Chalmers isn't the long term answer. Hes gotten a lot better and I think he'll have a good year playing next to Bosh and Wade but hes still the playmaker of last resort and the third or fourth option when on the floor with the stars. Cole gets to fight with Napier over who gets to lead the second unit. Now that James is gone the Heat no longer have the tag team approach and either Napier or Cole is going to be the primary playmaker on the floor for long stretches......longer if/when Wade goes down.
     
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    I'm with you guys I like Cole and wouldn't want to dump him. I was trying to get creative with adding someone at back up SG. Who is your backup? Ennis or Beasley I guess?
     
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    Both are wing players, one on defense and one on offense. Right now, the backup at SG is Danny Grainger, who when healthy, is not a bad option at all. I'd expect another guard to be signed, Ray Allen being ideal.
     
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    I see what your saying I just thought Granger was a SF. so are Ennis and Beasley though. We aren't going to have that many rookies on the final roster I know but I would give Tyler Johnson a legit shot to make the team. outside of Hamilton and Ennis. Tyler has been our best summer league player. his talent is undeniable
     

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