Reuben Foster failed drug test at combine.

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  1. theOutback

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    or Tunsil 2.0???
     
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    Maybe I have Tunsilitis, but this reaks of opportunity!

    I'd run that card up to the podium. Foster is the pick for me, unless there is another great opportunity on draft night.
     
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    Tunsil never had a positive sample...still and all...roll the dice.

    He had me ignoring getting sent home from the combine...now this has my undivided attention. We have a chance to get him
     
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    It was diluted and is treated as failed, to be fair.
     
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    He more then likely, drank a bucket full of water to flush his system. I have no doubt he's guilty, the only question I have is can he control his habit?
     
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    Yes I think he drops, but do we want him? This is where Grier and the scouts have to do their best work. Tunsil has worked out...so far. What's Foster's deal? Was it weed? Was it PEDs, something to help him recover from an injury? Was he taking PEDs to cut weight for the Combine?

    This is going to be interesting.
     
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    Foster played in a great scheme in Alabama. He won't be the same defender nor grow as a MLB here.
     
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    Ya I know he didn't have bad tests, I just meant he may slide to us like Tunsil.

    That's what I am thinking, but read the article, there are other red flags, but he may very well be at play at 22 and will he be worth the risk? The Phins better be checking his background hard.
     
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    Foster didn't have a positive sample either. It was a diluted sample, which counts as a failed test. They don't know what drug, if any, was in his system.

    He knew exactly when the test would be and still failed. It not like this was a random test during the offseason like they do in the pros. This guy knew a test was coming and still couldn't pass it. That worries me.
     
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    I'm considering opening up some kind of adult baby sitting service for athletes, because this nonsense! Dude cost himself millions. I mean guys would you really want a guy like this on team? Think of Dion Jordan, at least with Tunsil it was 2 years old. He knew he would be tested, its the same thing every year! He's not going to change all of a sudden. I'll take the gamble with a 2nd pick but not with our 1st.
     
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    If it's weed then who gives a ****. PEDs and that's a career in jeapordy type of problem. If it can be confirmed, which it can't, then I'd take him at 22. Not worth the risk if PEDs are a possibility.
     
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    Foster is the best MLB prospect to come out since Kuechly and we have a huge need at that position.
    I'll absolutely roll the dice on a player like him at 22,
     
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    Put him at WLB...keep Kiko at MLB:bobdole:, and move Timmons to SAM.
     
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    At least this time teams have a chance to do due diligence on Foster. One of the reasons Tunsil fell to 13 was because nobody had time to investigate due to the timing of the gasmask video release.
     
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    I agree with that sentiment about a lot of Bama defenders, but not Foster. I truly see a Ray Lewis type of talent when I watch him play.
     
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    I would take him if he's sitting there at #22 but even with this new development there's basically no chance that he drops out of the top 15 imo. Saban speaks very highly of him, even glowing terms and I think if this kid was a problem he would have been weeded out of the Alabama program.
     
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    Has he ever been linked to peds? I mean this is a top 5 talent we're talking about here if there weren't character concerns in the first place. All Pro potential. He has the ability to transform a defense.
     
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    Really? Unless the NFL Players Union somehow works out a new policy with the league to take weed off of the list of prohibited substances, it's a big problem. Guys get popped for PEDs, serve the 4 games, and come back. Often, the PEDs were aiding an injury recovery. For some of these guys, smoking up is just what they do because it's what they've always done. It's harder to kick a lifestyle habit.
     
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    More to do with the overall scheme than just the Mike position. Plus, you're not going to take a LB with excellent S2S movement like Foster's and place him on the outside. And speaking of our OLB spots, they are virtually the same, especially vs the run. It more or less has to do with that Foster played under a great defensive mind in Saban and to not expect much development and you could even assume some regression in our Over front.
     
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    if he's there, you take him imo...would be a dream scenario for me. he's explosive, instinctive, athletic....our defense would immediately get better
     
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    This is his story...and he's sticking to it:

    “I couldn’t eat much, but I had to drink water and Gatorade,” Foster said. “Then a few coaches said something about me being too light. And I’m a coach-pleaser. I don’t care what everybody thinks, but I care what coaches think. So I drank and ate as much as I could without throwing up. Then I went in there, drinking and drinking water, trying to flush out my system from whatever was making me sick and trying to keep my weight up and took the test.”

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    Thing about falling the combine drug test is players know when it's coming and if they can't stay off what their doing long enough to pass it then they just may have a problem.
     
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    Actually I believe it's the other way around, both are very frowned upon, but if it's weed, it might be a problem, because players usually don't just stop, while PEDs is just trying to compete, or treating injury, so stopping is not that big an issue.
     
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    I'm in. Foster at Mike, Kiko at Will, Timmons at Sam. Let's go!
     
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    Not quite the same as "failing" the test technically... can't prove he was on any drugs. His reason of being sick and needing hydration makes tons of sense... if it's true, who knows, but at least he's got his story down- wonder if anyone tries to make him prove it
     
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    Does this mean he would be suspended?
     
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    I wouldn't be upset if we draft him if he falls to us. But the team better be sure about him cause unlike Tunsil, Foster will be in the leagues drug program now and will be tested regularly.
     
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    He's not dropping all the way to us guys. Let go of that pipe dream
     
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    Let him drop to us.. Tie his money up with clauses in his contact just to be safe.. If you get this kid right he is a game changer.. I'm down.. :up:
     
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    He's got enough red flags to drop him. He's had concussion issues, shoulder surgery, got into it with the medical staff at the combine and now a failed drug test at the combine. So he may fall.
     
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    whats worse, having you're friends taking video of you taking a hit out of a gas mask, or failing a drug test you knew was coming that may cost you millions?...
     
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    I don't think he will fall all the way to 22. I could see Tannenbaum trading up, but I'd rather stay where we are or trade down.
     
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    Foster diluted sample at combine...

    Guess we know the reason for the argument with the medical staff...

    our tunsil moment?!?

    whats the entry penalty for diluted sample of any since not in league, don't know myself...

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    **** mods can merge I swear I looked but didn't see ongoing thread

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    Since he failed the test at the combine and the combine is an NFL event that's strike one for him. He'll now be in the NFL drug program and will be test regularly.
     
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    They don't have to make him prove it...

    It was his job not to present a diluted sample...then to try a cover-up with this ****-n-bull story, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could kick him.

    That doesn't mean I wouldn't take him at #22 in the right circumstances.
     
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    just a hunch but i don't see this kid as a repeat offender type....i'd love for him to fall to us
     

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