Ross donates $200 million to University of Michigan

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  1. Fishfood

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    Im not going to fault him for giving money to Michigan but also am not gonna say hand him a bunch of money to fix his stadium.
     
  3. Zounds

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    I knew you would say something negative about a charitable donation
     
  4. dlockz

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    Do u have reading comprehension issues? I said I wouldnt fault him for giving money to michigan and I have always maintained that we the tax payer should not pay for his stadium.

    Please explain how I said anything bad about his donation.
     
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    good for him
     
  6. datruth55

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    The difference is that the NFL owners have a pool of money they donate to yearly. NFL owners are allowed to draw from this money to improve stadiums...up to $200 million interest free IIRC...but the money is only available if the stadium gets public funding...whether it's a new stadium or an upgrade.

    Of course jealous people can't see past the dollar signs someone else has to think of the business sense.
     
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    he didnt. The OP did. =\
     
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    The NFL should be making a pool to give their own owners money for improvements period shoudl not be tied to public money.
     
  10. dkidd

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    Ross doesn't even want Sun Life, he tried giving it away to the city and they wouldn't take it. He doesn't want to renovate that dump but he's stuck with it. I'm sure the thought of building a new stadium has crossed his mind but land isn't cheap here, he can't even demolish the stadium and build a new stadium on that land because there's this lease with the Hurricanes.
     
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    Just shows u that some people just see what they want to see. Truth be damned
     
  12. dlockz

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    When did he try to give away the stadium? I think u are misinterpreting something he said.
     
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    Same guy who recognizes his "company" (Miami Dolphins Football Team) generates billions in state and local sales tax and tourism revenue....

    Can't blame the guy for trying to get the city to help fund a stadium which in return will generate large amounts of tax money for the state.

    Basic economics, help me help you. Not sure why everyone looks at this deal like Ross is trying to scam the city ala Marlins style.
     
  14. dlockz

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    KInd of funny the guy that was so quick to claim I said something bad about a charitable donation. Which even the simplest of simpletons could see I didnt. Gives me a thumbs down for calling him out on it.
     
  15. Zounds

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    Yes he did, and I wasn't talking about the OP - he's only made 19 posts ever. I was talking about the guy I quoted, who constantly bashes the owner.
     
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    Billionaires should not be asking the public to fix their stadiums period....this guy can drop 200 million without missing a beat but wants the state to tax people to make improvements to his stadium that will make him more money.....Think about it, the economy is weak benefits are being cut and he wants the state to find money for his stadium....if the economy was booming then I would be for a 50/50 split
     
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    Good for Ross, and he can choose to donate his money anywhere he wants to. Anyone who was against the stadium proposal and faults Ross for this donation is a hypocrite. You can't argue against Ross wanting public help for the stadium renovations then turn around and bash him for what he is doing with his money. If you don't want him telling you what to do with your money, you can't tell him what he can do with his.

    Plus another big complaint was that the "tax" money should be going towards education and not stadium renovations. Ross' donation to Michigan is all about supporting education.
     
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    Just how dense are you? You cant see how your comment is a negative reaction to a positive thing? If you cant see that, its probably not worth explaining that to you.

    And oh yea, here....have another thumbs down
     
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    And again where did I criticize his charitable donation. Please explain that elaborate criticism I made of that. I clearly said I cant criticize it yet you cannot read well enough to see that somehow.

    I have critized the owner but I go quite sometime without bashing the owner. The owner will be forever stupid in his pursuit of a coach while still having a coach employed, cant change that. The past is the past.
    I just want you to show in the post you quoted where I criticized his donation to the University of Michigan.
     
  20. dlockz

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    You are obviously the dense one because u claim I criticized his charitable donation. The OP had an issue with it, I didnt. Thats why you whole comment made not one bit of sense.
    Now if you had commented on my belief that taxpayers should not pay for football stadiums I could respect that.
    My comment was directly to the op and addressed exactly what he said.
     
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    He now has a $200 million tax write-off
     
  22. dlockz

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    Cant disagree one bit. Not sure why anyone cares if a bilionaire chooses to donate money to a university.
     
  23. dlockz

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    Well people with money do all kinds of these things but still doesnt take away that he donated 200 million and he didnt have to.
     
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    It's his money!

    He worked for it. If he wants to spend it on coke and strippers then so be it.
     
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    Well... Not to ttot my own horn... But.. I donated $5 to Finheaven!
     
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    5 dollars well spent
     
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    So does this mean people that can afford luxury goods shouldn't be asking for government handouts?

    :idk:
     
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    that's the American way
     
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    Not sure of your slant.
     
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    The timing of this is poor from an optics standpoint. He's either extraordinarily oblivious, or he doesn't give a sh-t anymore. And if he doesn't give a sh-t anymore then it's because he knows he's selling the team sometime in the future.
     
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    Or he would rather support his school than let politics control his actions (and money)?
     
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    By definition Michigan is a nonprofit but lets not call a multiple billion dollar revenue generating school a charity!
     
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    So Ross is not allowed to donate some of his money to Michigan because a corrupt politician in Tallahassee killed the stadium bill? If the stadium renovations were going forward would he be allowed to donate to Michigan?

    Honestly donating to the education system and the stadium bill(whether it passed or failed) should have no connection at all.
     
  35. dlockz

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    I dont see connection but how is the rep from clearwater any more or less corrupt than Ross or is it just because he is a politiican.
     
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    That was my point about a negative reaction, conflating a huge monetary donation to education with having your hand out begging the government for money. That's the kind of negative reaction I was alluding to.
     
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    The school is subsidized by the state of Michigan, meaning a lot of the expenses associated with operating the school comes from state tax dollars.
     
  38. dlockz

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    I will say again i said nothing bad to say about donation and reaffirmed that I dont support taxpayers paying for nfl owned stadiums.
    You could just say u were wrong which u were but of course u wont.
    Both these issues were addressed by the op and thats why they are together
     
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    But you still connected them in agreement. But it useless explaining anything to you buddy so I'll just let it go.
     
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    Ross should sell the team to Micky and ross should move back to Michigan if he likes them so much more..
     
  41. dlockz

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    I did not agree with op thats what u seem to miss. Its funny u attack me for being negative when I wasnt but yet its useless explaining it to me.
    I know my opinion is not popular sometimes but I said nothing negative about the charitable donation very clearly.
    All u had to do was admit that was the truth as I wrote it but you clearly portrayed my viewpoint incorrectly.
     
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    How is he a corrupt politician? Because he killed a bill that no one wanted?
     
  43. dlockz

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    Its one of his alma mata's. He is from Michigan, he was born in Michigan.
    Not sure whats wrong with donating to your alma mata.
    How much money has Arison donated to u of Miami the school he dropped out of
     
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    [video=youtube;XimjADOpjcA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XimjADOpjcA[/video]
     
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    Is it true he did that so they could teach the band how to spell Ohio
     
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    Let the people make the decision, don't be a dictator and make the decision for all. I truly don't wish to rehash the whole stadium thing again, it is over. This donation by Ross shouldn't have any connection to the stadium issue
     
  47. dlockz

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    decisions like this happen every day. I mean we dont even elect the president by peoples decision in reality.
     
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    He doesn't give a **** about the Phins. It is all a "status" thing for him...that's it...
     
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    No, don't let it go. Keep at it man, you guys are very entertaining....lol

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  50. dlockz

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    leave it up to u to say we are not entertaining.
     

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