Russel Wilson proves that we should draft another QB in this draft

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  1. Elle Clouds

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    This might not be a popular idea amongst the Tannehill lovers, but think about how Seattle had their top free agent Qb but still took Wilson in the 3rd. I'm not saying use the 12th pick, but if there is someone in the late 2nd-4th round that may give Tanny some competition, I say draft him and let training camp decides who is the starter. As a fin fan of over 25 years, I've seen my fair share of qb's and I'm not nearly sold on our current starter. Wilson is proof that you never know which QB will be your starter till the competition starts. I'm not a rabid fan of Tannehill, but I'm a die hard Dolphins fan and always want the best for the franchise.
     
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    I agree with drafting a qb next year just not high in draft maybe 6th round
     
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    We should have picked Wilson last year, I recall CK (I think) did an excellent write-up pre-draft essentially saying to ignore his height, the kid is legit, he was right...
     
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    nothing until after the 5th round
     
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    No. People always think that these running QBs are here to stay and dominate the league.

    Once film cycles they'll figure out how to stop Wilson, RGIII and future running QBs. It's what happened to Cam Newton this season. Guys get enough film on a QB and things change. Typically the running QB relies too much on his legs to make adjustments and that just doesn't happen.

    Mike Vick is probably the greatest dual threat QB of all-time and that's saying something.
     
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    I think we should because whose to say Tannehill will improve? If Wilson is here , he beats Tannehill in training camp and is our starter. I wish fans weren't so close minded about what we have at the moment.
     
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    Miami needs to draft another QB in this draft. Keep drafting one each year until we find our man.

    It wouldn't hurt to take a flyer on day three of the draft on a QB with some potential.

    ---------- Post added at 02:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:45 PM ----------

    Vick was all talent and potential. He never put in the time to become a great QB.

    Wilson is the anti-Vick.
     
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    This.

    I'm not giving up Tannehill for any rookie quarterback not named Andrew Luck.
     
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    This post is a BIG FAIL:crazy::lol2:
     
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    Tannehill has far more upside and is better suited for the NFL game than the wannabe flash-in-the-pan slash guys like scam, rg3 and wilson. None of them, OR the coaches who have a fetish for them (like andy reid) will ever win anything of substance. Look at the philly trainwreck now, that's where seattle will be in 5 years.

    I hate even POSTING on a thread like this because it gets bumped up when it deserves to be deep-sixed.
     
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    Matty Ice proves that we shouldve drafted The Matural, Matthew Ice Ryan in 08 instead of Jake Wrong.
     
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    It never hurts to have an eye open for a QB mid to late round.. if we had taken than philosophy over the last decade maybe we wouldn't have been so down and out. Even if they do not beat out your current starter ... there is always the possibility someone will give you a better value draft pick for him.. Ron Wolfe in Green Bay churned a number of picks that way.
     
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    Lol no.

    Wilson is a huge exception. There wont be another guy like him in 20 years. Tannehill has just as much ability as him just needs the correct pieces around him.
     
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    We have too many other important holes to fill, to waste a pick on a QB. Tannehill looks to be our future. Surround him with weapons and then evaluate him. To pull the trigger on another QB so soon, would be a mistake in my opinion.
     
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    i dont agree but i like tannehill
     
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    Finally got a playoff win.

    Whoo!!! Then he'll get SF and get destroyed.
     
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    I agree. that's how we got Marino, the Dolphins had no intention of drafting Marino, primarily because they felt there was no way he'd be there, nonetheless, their sights were set on an drafting an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, which they got in the 2nd round, I forgot his name, anyway if you see an opportunity to improve your team, you do it.

    I was impressed by Pat Devlin and how effective he was throwing the ball in preseason.

    That's what make this game and board so great, sometimes you're right and sometimes you're wrong.

    Let's see what the future unfolds....

    We're still the only "perfect" team, even though the Patriots cheated and claimed they had a perfect season...!

    Thank You Don Shula for never quitting.

    d-1
     
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    Yeah okay. Do you own a TV?
     
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    Matt Moore is already potentially a better QB than Ryan Tannehill (at this stage in his career). There is very little evidence that Ryan Tannehill is significantly better. So if you want a quality backup QB, just keep Matt Moore.
     
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    Why do this when we are all so certain Tanny is a franchise QB?
     
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    In the past I would have agreed with this. But the 'new' holding rules (or I should say the total unwillingness to enforce the actual rules) have changed the entire setup. It used to be that NFL defences were so fast laterally that they could pursue running QBs and, in particular, kill the read option. But now that OL are allowed to hook and hold onto DL, the defence are unable to disengage and pursue laterally when the QB runs. In my view it is clearly no longer 'blocking' but unless the OL actually grabs the jersey they can hook and hold a lineman and that makes running QBs much more difficult to stop.

    And yes, you should always be drafting QBs when you get the chance, probably every year, just to see if you get lucky.
     
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    Id love to resign Matt Moore. If we cant I wouldnt mind taking that Nassib kid from Syracuse if he were available in the mid rounds. We are going to need a solid backup QB and I dont have a problem using a draft pick on that position. Backup QB is an important spot.
     
  25. dlockz

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    wilson and RG3 have very little to do with vick, both are already top level passers , vick got better as a passer but these guys have little in common with vick.
     
  26. Phinatic8u

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    RG3 wont be around long unless he changes his play style.

    Wilson is legit.

    ---------- Post added at 05:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:02 PM ----------

    There's nothing certainfor Griffin, Luck, Wilson or Tannehill.

    Tannehill has the least exp while Wilson had the most. Simple. Also if Wilson was 6'2 he would've gone BEFORE Luck.
     
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    Maybe we could tag Jake Wrong and trade him to Atlanta for Matt Ryan?
     
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    I think Wilson will probably be OK, but Griffin is gonna be out of the league by 2016.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    Agreed. Wilson is a solid player IMHO. More to his game than the threat of breaking an 80 yard run. I see Wilson being a good QB in this league for a lot of years. RG3............. He will be finished real soon. Lets see what happens when defenses dont have to honor the threat of his run. No more single safety for RG3. I dont see him being able to throw it effectively against a standard defense.

    Wilson is a QB. RG3 is a gimmick.
     
  31. CalDolFan10x14

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    Maybe to look for a backup QB to Tannehill if we can't keep Moore here....mid to late rounds. Other than that, we just need to get Ryan some more explosive and reliable tools to work with at wideout. I'm eager to see what Tannehill can do with an alpha go-to receiver like Jennings, Wallace, etc.
     
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    Yep, Wilson is leaps and bounds better than RG3 and is smart enough to realize when to slide or head out of bounds when he scrambles. His passing ability isn't too shabby either.
     
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    Wilson is the likely candidate to make it because he's capable of making quick, smart decision THROWING the football.

    RGIII is a one-read offense. One read, then run. Wilson runs in the backfield but keeps his eyeballs down the football field and then takes off if there is nothing.

    The problem with all of this is that your linemen have their back to the QB at all times and don't know where you are and don't know where to protect. Wilson isn't very big. Neither is RGIII. It's gonna take one good pop for Wilson to change his game as well.

    I'm not a big fan of either, but I think Wilson has a better chance of being the better QB between him and RGIII.
     
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    Tannehill's a "slash" guy too, in case you haven't noticed.

    But I think we all know that's not what you were talking about.
     
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    If Matt Moore leaves via free agency I have always believed that Miami should draft a quarterback in the 5th or 6th round to be the #3 and push Devlin for the #2 spot. The high picks in this draft should be used to fill holes and build weapons around Tannehill. Not to try and replace Tannehill.
     
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    All so certain is a stretch. I'm a wait and see and I have not seen the future just yet. Good chance of it, but that is it.
    I hope so because he had "some flashes" but why another QB?

    You are only as good as your back up.
    We are not guaranteed this is the guy.
    QB is the biggest impact position.

    To reply to some, There is nothing wrong with double threat QB's either if played smartly.
    The game is changing. Watching the 49ers/Packers game I had to wonder if Green Bay's template is not tomorrows template for "consistent success".
     
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    Nope
     
  38. dlockz

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    I think people just like to hate on the success of RG3 and Wilson to somehow make their accomplishments this year somehow get explained away. If Rg3 can stay healthy and survive he is a very accurate passer that will only get better with time and he doesnt make alot of mistakes. Took over and lead a team that hasnt been anywhere in years. As for wilson he overcame his height limitations and showed he can make it. It doesntt make Tannehill any less of a qb because two other rookies outplayed him
     
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    Griffin os still a one read and run qb.

    Shanahan used Baylors offense last year for him. Griffin needs to change his playstyle or he'll be in a wheelchair soon.
     
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    I also think they should draft another QB. Just not until the later rounds, like 6 or 7. Just in case.
     
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    Tannehill wasn't good enough to not scout QBs this year. If they find a guy they like and he's available at a good spot, I have no problem taking a QB.
     
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    I wouldn't call Wilson a running QB. He threw for 385 yards today for crissakes. He can run but that doesn't mean it's all he does. Just the fact that he's difficult to sack and can make plays on the run make him a money QB.
     
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    I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong considering I watched a kid named Colin Kaepernick play last night.
     
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    nothing wrong with any of those guys although cap is still staring down receivers. Griffin has the best season ever by a rookie qb and people just dont want to give him any credit
     
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    It's not that nobody is giving him credit. It's just he had a ONE read offense. It's not that hard to grasp.

    If his 1st read is covered he runs, just like Baylor.

    Wilson's season was actually far more impressive.

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    What does that gotta do with Wilson being a exception?

    Kapernick plays on a loaded offense whose #1 WR is finally getting his comfort level. He also stares down WRs alot, which is one thing Wilson doesn't do.

    Russel Wilson > Kap.
     
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    Was he successful did it work, did he make many mistakes. obviously since he was the only rookie qb to ever post a 100 qb rating and his team made the playoffs it worked. If the offense is so easy how come no other qb has ever been able to do it like him. Personally not talking about u much of the disrespect on this board towards Rg3 is sour grapes because he played so well.
     
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    If Philbin really employs the Green Bay philosophy then we will draft another QB. Now it won't be a 1st or 2nd rounder but the Packers believe in adding another QB mid round or so. So yes, we will draft another QB in the draft.
     
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    There's no sour grapes from me at all, never liked him and knew he'd get hurt quick. I was right. His season wasn't that impressive if you actually watched him play. Simpleton offense.

    Wilson also had a 100 rating, and 6 more pass TDs, and got deeper in the playoffs without a fairy offense, and he did that while being 5'9.
     
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    Russell Wilson has a top 5 D, top 5 Running game, a seam threat TE and a great offensive line not to mention very good Wrs (a true #1 in Sidney Rice)!! Its not to hard to suceed when all the pieces are in place all you have to do is be a game mananger and not turn the ball over and make some plays here and there.....If hes on a team like Miami Russel Wilson isnt even talked about this year....Tannehill should of had this team in the playoffs if it werent for Carpenter and that speaks volumes being they dont have any playmakers a below average running game and a pourous o-line...I just dont understand for the life of me these things arent brought up when comparing T-Hill to others huge diff with the circumstances.....Oh and one more thing T-Hill beat Wilson!! Thumbs Down big time on this thread next!!!
     
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    I think Moore has already said he wants to find a opportunity to start somewhere, so I don't expect him back. Devlin looked decent enough for the back-up job but there's nothing wrong with drafting competition.
     

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