Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Feb 12, 2018.
And I'd take the very good QB over the mercurial up and down QB. Personal choice.
yes he is better than Bortles. thill17 need start winning in nfl. other than that he is not going get no respect. in nfl. plus he is 30 yr old. the rest of these qb are young than he is as well. it time for thill17 to start carrying dolphins on his shoulder to playoff or he will become another qb in sunset.
Man thats one thing I wish Tannehill would do more of, RUN! Use that athleticism and 4.6 speed. Especially with a bad o-line, I feel if he ran more DL's would have to be more wary of that and it would slow them down some. It changes the way defenses have to play you and add's another factor for defenses to worry about, as well as opening things up for the offense some.
ok, hopefully we can draft one.
You say this as if it's so easy just to grab a 'great player'. We all would obviously love that, but they arent easy to come by.
I'm not talking about the scrambles. I'm talking about the ton of designed QB runs that Carolina uses. Tannehill could scramble more and earlier but I wouldn't want him to fall into the trap of some running QBs and take off too often and too soon.
I mean run with it take off and go and don't wait for your OL to kill you. I would very much like him to avg 400 yds rushing a season like a Steve Young did. I feel like they aren't utilizing all his gifts. Steve Young played 8 solid seasons so it's definitely sustainable, as long as Tannehill doesn't have a HB who can't pass block.
If you take away Newtons ability to run the ball for first downs and to win games all by himself, then yes now I can see why you think Tannehill is as good as Newton.
The vast majority of his sacks were not from standing and waiting in the pocket. Gase did help him improve in that area but part of that was the blocking being better and having fewer free rushers coming from all directions. In order to avoid many of the sacks from 2013 - 2015, he would have had to take the snap and just start running.
For everyone talking about Tannehill running more and taking advantage of his speed, wake up... After this injury spree of his, no way they want him doing anything but throwing the ball. That knee takes any kind of hit and he's done.
Nonsense. RBs come back from ACL tears.
Lol no. Part of his skill set is running. Nothings changed.
It would be interesting to know everyone's opinion on the probability of
a) Tannehill being traded,
b) Miami drafting a R1 rookie,
c) this being Gase's last season,
d) Tbaum being fired/replaced,
e) Ross selling the team
I get those who give info they think justifies all five of the above or the above five SHOULD happen, but, IMO, the odds of any are quite small.
Tanny isnt going anywhere. Gase is fine UNLESS he ignores the QB position in the draft and Tanny gets hurt.
Tbaum, sadly, isnt going anywhere, unless he gets caught snorting coke off a hooker.
Ross wont sell, but if i win the powerball I'll make him an offer!
what's a R1 rookie?
Thinking it means Round 1, but just a guess.
aren't they all rookies in the draft? I wondered if he meant QB
Lol, guess I should change my answer to 100%!
yes, I can almost guarantee the 1st round pick will be a rookie
Newton is special type of qb that know how win. he can throw, run and avoid sack plus he got good defense as well.
Unless we trade out of R1 altogether....
He is the most inaccurate QB in the league. If he "knows how to win", why does he have 4 seasons below .500 in 7 years (with a good defense).
He might me the most overrated player in the league.
get over the age part.
Andrew Luck, Age 28
Tyrod Taylor, Age 29
Cam Newton, Age 29
Nick Foles, Age 29
Russell Wilson, Age 29
Kirk Cousins, Age 30
Ryan Tannehill, Age 30
Matthew Stafford, Age 30
Sam Bradford, Age 30
Andy Dalton age 30
Matt Ryan, Age 33
Joe Flacco, Age 33
Alex Smith, Age 34
Aaron Rodgers, Age 34
Ben Roethlisberger, Age 36
Philip Rivers, Age 36
Eli Manning, Age 37
Carson Palmer, Age 38
Drew Brees, Age 39
Tom Brady age 41
the average age is about 30
My bad, R1 QB
I've NEVER been a fan of Cam Newton, but he made some BIG steps forward last season.
He was making reads and throws that he did not make earlier in his career.
By this time if RT was really a clutch QB we would already know.
But giving Cam 7 years to become below average at reading defenses is okay?
I hate to do this but once again Tannehill is simply average...haha
Now that was pretty good.
30 is simply not old for a QB.
There is ZERO chance Tannehill will get traded this year...
Next year is another argument.
Where did this notion that Cam can't read defenses come from? If the dude can't read defenses than did he win his MVP purely on instincts and physical prowess?
Cam probably has had the worst core of WRs since he's been in the league, and until last year he had a slow and washed up J stew at RB. He has been Carolinas whole offense. Greg Olsen didnt become a pro bowl TE until he came to Carolina.
Yes we all know that Newton is inaccurate and maybe the most inconsistent QB but Carolina continues to make playoffs with him and superbowl appearance with Ted Ginn jr. as his number one WR. Ted Ginn also had his best years with Cam.
Think what you want. I want my QB to be the best passer on the team, not the best runner.
This doesn't address the reading defenses but otherwise sums up what I think about Newton the passer:
Just don't get the love for Cam.
.......I want a winner but that's just me, to each his own.
And if you want to tie winning to a single person, you should be watching singles tennis or bowling.
Now I know this is going to sound like excuse making but, one of the many ways the previous coaching staff screwed Tannehill from the get go is by trying to make him a strickly pocket passer... It's been documented that they coached him to NOT take off, it was literally frowned upon by that regime... I think it's pretty obvious just by watching his handling of the pocket since Gase has been hired...
Some guys are winners and leaders. others blame others for their failures....I see where you stand
Aside from being a head case and a laptop thief, Newton's skills are over-rated. But then again, as to your argument for some it's always "scoreboard" when it comes to Tannehill, unless it isn't and then it's other BS, but never for Newton- it's the extenuating circumstances LOL
Culpecker is an instructive tale for those who are buying Cam stock. Once the legs go, so goes the strongest part of his game