Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Casas9425, Dec 10, 2012.
The success of these other rookie QB's on better teams has completely ****ed everyone's perspective. Forget it, some people just don't get it.
out of all the rookie qbs, whose the only one without ANY help?
When you miss wide open guys for touchdowns, shrug and grin at the podium post-game, you usually get this type of criticism.
I'd like a list of the 'wide open' receivers Tannehill missed for TD's yesterday. And if you even think about mentioning the Bess play, I'll just snuff that one out for ya right now- he was nowhere NEAR being wide open.
What does Scheftner know? He has not even seen Tannehill line up as the #1 WR and catch a bomb from Matt Moore yet...He just may be the answer yet.
I was at the game. Paid good money to see that missed play with my own eyes. My criticism is warranted.
But if that's not good enough for you, he missed Hartline twice last week too. He's leaving touchdowns on the field weekly.
Not sure about you, but I'm not exactly thrilled watching 13 points, taking a miraculous one handed grab by Fasano to actually punch it in on 4th down.
I can't disagree with anything he is saying. I remember feeling that RT was a reach in the first round, and that fan pressure dictated that we HAD to draft a QB at that point. I'm not pretending to be some great evaluator, just going on what I read. Unfortunately, spending a first round pick on a QB doesn't guarantee that you get a great QB. Sadly, my confidence that he is "the guy" is really declining. I don't mean to bash him and I hope he turns out to be a great one, but lately he isn't showing me much. At all.
This is how some of us feel on here, so he's not off base with his opinion.
Look every year its going to be something, injuries, bad calls, etc....., so we blame everyone but the QB?
But we're not scoring enough point as our defense has kept us in a lot of games.
Cue the angry mob to slander Schefter .....
Tom brady missed two tds last game.. whats your point? if you think tannehill is going to light it up against everyone you're mistaken.. does he miss some throws.. yes but was it his fault when he threw it to hartline and he fell by his own that guy barley touched him and he fell lmao. Tannehill has a lot of help..
Tom Brady = Super Bowls
You guys crack me up every time you bring up legends and attempt to draw a correlation.
Brady only missed one, Welker dropped the other.
Not sure about you, but I have perspective and I'll reserve my criticism for if Tannehill consistently fails and it's his fault he fails. He missed a couple throws last week. **** happens. He didn't miss anything yesterday, because you can't miss if there's nothing there. Those guys can't seperate. Period, end of story. Get over it and realize this team was gonna ****ing suck this year no matter what. Next year is the year. I'll be all over Tannehill next year if he has 8 TD passes through 13 games, but not until next year once the kid has some ****ing actual first rate offensive football players besides two complimentary receivers (that Tannehill has on the verge of 1,000 yards each, btw) to throw the ball to.
Hey J., you ready to go to the Jags game and give us an up close evaluation of RT.?
The point is even the legends miss throws. You're welcome for the clarification.
Yeah whatuh bust. I mean can u believe he made Moore drop that bomb he dropped on his ****. Or that other "miss"bomb that hit Hartlines hand last week.
Lolol you didnt watch the game im guessing.. he had Hernandez for a touchdown.. and edelman wide open and over threw him by a mile.. lmao back up your statement please
So who are Russell Wilson's weapons? Tanny doesn't have a number 1 wr, but he has a good running game, a pretty solid pass catching tight end, a decent slot receiver.
The problem is he misses a ton of throws every single game. You can say lack of weapons too, but what is the dropped ball stat? Does anyone have it?
This is the the issue that people with your opinion is missing. EVERY QB MISSES OPEN RECEIVERS. Brady missed two wide open receivers for TD's in the same game you're referring to. The difference is that, Brady has way more opportunities to hit open receivers than Tannehill does because his receivers get open more. It's a struggle for our receivers to get separation, so when they do there's it seems a lot worst when our QB whoever it is, misses them. Just saying. I've also seen Tannehill hit open receivers, the issue isn't that he can't its that their not getting open ENOUGH!
..you dont make sense, we are saying even great Qbs miss the plays also.. is he tom brady no.. No one even said that but even the greats miss throws -__-
I am not joining an angry mob about this article but espn can do better than schefter.
I thought Tannehill was ok yesterday, but he doesn't really make the elite throws.
However, last week, he was very subpar and may very well have cost us the game. So he was worse than a game manager.
He has the tools, but I wonder about the "it" factor.
My fiance is a physician and not really a football fan other than just watching while I do. Her random observation was that Tannehill is a gentleman and looks like a med student (she loves that he majored in biology). But she doesn't see the "cut your throat" attitude that the great qb's have. Problem being he is a "gentleman."
You gotta love the 6'4, the footwork, the good arm, etc. I'm not sure if he is true gym rat but supposedly he stays late. The question is, will he improve his accuracy, make some elite throws, and win games. He hasn't been good on 3rd down or in the 4th quarter. He has gotta get that "it factor" up and be a winner.
Sure. Bring a ticket and pick me up.
Cant say I disagree with Schefter. We just dont know yet. Thats all he is saying.
Forgot about the Hernandez one, bottom line is Brady has 3 rings and made the plays when they counted.
He's not performing as well as Luck, Griffin or Wilson, regardless of supporting cast. That's a simple fact.
Let's put it this way: Trent Dilfer, who played the position in the league for over a decade and won a SB, and who has since become one of the more respected analysts around when it comes to breaking down QB play, thinks Tannehill will be a 'rock star', to use Dilfer's words. I'll go with that educated opinion, formed after studying the tape, with the professional credentials to back it up, before I'll go with the opinion of a guy who once threw a football growing up on Long Island.
Dilfer said the same thing about Chad Henne.
If he did then that's disappointing, but if you can find the article where the words 'rock star' or anything of the like are used about Henne, I'd like to read it just for a laugh lol.
I admit I'm not 100% sold on Tannehill being the answer for us at QB. I'm not even close to given up on him yet either though. When we got the ball with 4+ minutes to go down by a a TD I thought of it in Finheaven terms:
If he ties the game he can build his legacy as the future franchise QB of the Miami Dolphins.
If he doesn't it will be somebody else's fault.
C'mon, thats funny because its the theme here, has been all year.
Anyway my point is of all the pundits I take Shefter's opinion on anything other then scoop extremely lightly. When I first started watching NFL Network back in 2005 he blew it with me. It was Nick Saban's first year as our head coach and Shefter was doing a camp tour on the Dolphins. He said Saban ran tthe most organized practices he'd ever seen and that the Dolphins would win at least 10 games after what he saw. The prediction was actually not bad because we went 9-7 that year. However 2 weeks later in the NFL Network season preview he had us at 5-11. That flip flop killed his credability with me.
I think you're using the phrase "A Ton" way too loosely, missing one or two open receivers in a game only SEEMS like a ton because they don't get open that much. For a team with true playmakers, one or two missed open receivers would not be categorized as a ton.
Marshawn Lynch: 1,266 yards and 9TD Compared to Reggie Bush: 622 yards 6TD
Sidney Rice 7TD
Ben Tate 7TD
Compared to D. Bess - 1TD
Bottom line is - Give us Atlanta's group of receivers and TE and we're easily 9-4 do you not agree?
Tanny is not accurate and is leaving too many TD's on the field because of lack of accuracy. Yes, he has lack of talent but when he has the chance, he is unable to delivered.
He only played 19 games in college, so he needs more seasoning, lets see what happens, but so far, he is not doing a good job and is one of the worse starting QB in the NFL.
Than should we draft another QB if a good one is available? Serious question. If you were calling our shots for us, would you draft someone else in the 1st?
I agree. You can't compare Ryan Tannehill missing a couple throws to the 1 or 2 games a season guys like Brady and Brees play mediocre and miss similar throws. These guys light it up for the rest of the year so when they miss or have bad games its excusable. Tannehill has done virtually nothing to warrant a pass at this point.
Legends make up for it by winning big games, MVP's, championships. You're welcome for the clarity.
Schefter's no fool and he's not calling Tannehill a bust. I get where he's coming from. I believe in Tannehill's future with us. He shows a poise and skillset that far exceeds our last hyped up bust (Henne). But his play now isn't really a confirmation of what we hope his future ability will be. It is what it is. We don't get a clear view of him because he has nothing to work with.
Give the Saints our defense and they're competing for a Super Bowl. You have to score in this league.