Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Danny68, Feb 14, 2013.
God I hope not!
The big thing with this is that CB is the THIRD highest paid position in the NFL . . . meaning these guys get paid, so I still have to laugh when I see people say Sean Smith at 2 or 3 million a year. The positive, if any, is that if he completely blows next year, you are only the hook for one season and you don't have to fill his spot in FA. Negatively . . . 10.7 for a guy that isn't a QB or isn't elite at his position is never a great idea . . . and if he does turn into an exceptional CB next year you will have to come out of pocket and give him that salary long term when you probably can get him at a more average salary of 6 to 7 million long term now. I'm not a fan of franchising him.
NO.. That is all..
I'd franchise Long before I would ever consider placing the tag on Smith.
A injured, older Jake Long plays his position better than Jake Long and is a far bigger asset IMO.
Let all our FAs walk. Hartline you can sign for a discount. If not, eff them.
Nope, no way no how.
I'd rather throw 10 million to the toilet.
If we managed to trade up for a guy like Dee Milliner - someone capable of excelling at press - Sean Smith would be worth keeping (Smith is ELITE in press). Coyle had Smith in zone (where he is mediocre) too often, and supposedly that was due to Nolan Carroll's limitations and inability to play press on the other side.
But $10 million per year...no way. If he came down to the 6-7 million range I'd consider. He might lack instincts, but its hard to find his physical tools.
I think the bigger story with this blog is that Armando continues to throw Ben Volin under the bus for his early January article saying that tagging Smith was an option. This isn't the first time Armando has attacked Ben for this and he continues to do it. The following line I find very unprofessional by Armando:
I am glad Ben finally confronted Armando on Twitter about the constant attacks.
Only a mediocre team that has no plans on winning would tag a mediocre cornerback.
Armando is nothing more then a smart aleck punk imo
Really good post. I wasn't aware of the zone-because-of-Carroll thing.
10 mil is way to high for Smith.
I'd rather have Brent Grimes for that kind of money.
Nope, if we sign any FA CB, I hope it's Keenan Lewis.
45 mil to spend. minus 7 mil for rookies. 38 mil to spend on FA. smith would take up 10 mil of that... so 28 mil... lets say 4 mil for hartline, 8 mil for jennings, another 5 mil for a TE. now we're at 11m and still have to sign a Safety, ok, lets sign clemons for 3m. 8m left over, might was well sign starks back for 4.5 mil. 3.5 mil left to roll onto next season.
so even paying smith 10 m (not something I want to do...) leaves us with enough money to sign hartline (4), Jennings (8), A FA TE (5), clemons (3), starks(4.5) and roll 3.5 mil onto next year.
If we're going to PAY anyone, pay this dude. Grimes would be my second choice. Both are much better than Smith (Grimes obviously has the injury concerns).
Armando is the king of douches. I still remember when he flat out plagiarized one of our Draft Winds pieces on his blog and then essentially tried to tell us to shut up and go away, even threatened legal action.
Ben >>> Mando
Agree 1,000%. Not sure why there isn't more FH talk about Lewis. He's easily my favorite guy in free agency.
People here in Pittsburgh are starting to realize how tough their cap situation is: lots of sportstalk either/or's regarding Keenan Lewis with Ike Taylor, Brett Keisel, James Harrison, etc; they'll be faced with cutting key guys to keep Lewis. And the Steelers do have three starting-caliber corners in Taylor, Lewis, and young Cortez Allen whose still under rookie contract, so even if they let Lewis walk they still have guys who can play. That said, people here want Lewis to be the priority, it's just going to be very difficult - cutting Ike Taylor is the popular notion. Keenan played his hand right be not re-structuring last off-season (there was talk of a deal, but he wanted to test the market), playing a lights-out 2012, and is now due to get paid big-time.
I hope we go after him hard.
Why? Guy blew his knee out last year.
I don't even know about the guy. after a quick google this came up...
.....and that's what we'd be doing,if Ross/Ireland/FO gives him that!!!
for one year? it'd be a rental, and would mean we want to push back filling yet another hole next year instead of this year.
knee is fine. guy tore his achilles, and i dont even remember if it was a full tear or not
Nice find, WildBill. The article makes his case better than I've been.
To me it always comes down to, "is there someone better we can get to replace him?"
Give me 1/4 of it before you do that please
complicated answer. Yes there is. and no we don't know if thier money demands match with how the team views thier worth, nor can I account for thier families desires, etc.
The more I think outside the bos the more I would rather the Fins sign Antoine Cason than any of the available FA CB's. I really haven't heard the buzz around his name like the rest of the FA CB's. I know he had a rough start to the beginning of the season but came along strong at the end. He isn't a real flashy CB but he rarely gives up the big play and is a very smart player with immense physical talent that he hasn't gotten the most out of yet. The new GM and coach have let Cason know they would like him to return but rumors are that the Chargers aren't going to be able to afford him, as he is looking for at least $5 mill/year, and they only have around $5 mil in cap space and still have to resign their draft class, Danario Alexander and others.
I know alot of people will look at Cason's rating on PFF, where he is second to last fo FA CB, but after reading about the Bolts a little bit on a few forums, many people think that it was due to two things. One being when Ron Rivera took Wilks the secondary coach with him to Carolina and second the pass rush being almost not existant. I think Cason could flourish in Coyle's D, with his proven record of getting the most out of his CB's, and would definitely be a cheaper option (more bang for the buck) than Smith or other FA CB's.
Anybody else got an opinion on Cason, and why?
Exactly, which is why we should be careful when letting veterans go.
I seem to remember him when he was younger seeming like he might be the eventual replacement for Jammer, and that he was somewhat talented. I wouldn't be opposed I don't think. Lewis, I'm intrigued by, but I don't know much about him
guess the good news is it happened week 1 so he had the whole season to recover and now a full offseason.. thanks for the clarification on the injury
Tagging Smith would not be ideal, but if we do, I think they do it with hopes of working out a long term deal to lower his cap hit.
Why give smith 10.7 when we could get cromRte from eagles who is only 26 and more upside plus proby cheaper thoughts anybody
Hahahahahahahahahaha!, that'd be my reaction to Smith's face if I was Ireland.
You do realize Sean Smith isn't asking for the 1 year deal at 10.7 million but that is the contract Jeff Ireland would give him if he made him his franchise player. Not understanding why Jeff Ireland would be laughing in Sean Smith's face when he is the one that will have proposed the deal to him. :idk: