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  1. CRAZYDOLFAN305

    CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB

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    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/05/3035280/miami-dolphins-receivers-show.html


    With 752 combined yards, Bess and Hartline make up the league’s most productive wide receiving tandem through the season’s four weeks.??? What? I thought this was impossible.

    At the season’s quarter mark, Hartline is on pace to shatter Mark Clayton’s team record for receiving yards in a season (1,389). Hartline can break the record by averaging 78 yards per game for the rest of the season. - The Great Mark Clayton, still think Hartline doesn't qualify as #1 receiver? by this logic, Wes wouldn't be considered a number one either.

    Hartline Already has (6) +20 yard plays and (3) +40 yard plays. And with receivers who have atleast 25 receptions, he also leads the league in yards per catch at 18.2. I would die to be his agent right now.


    Then there’s Davone Bess, who ranks in the top-five league-wide in third-down receiving yards (142) and third-down catches (nine).
     
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  2. Phindog

    Phindog A True Fan

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    It was obvious teams are still trying to over cover Bess and forget about Hartline especially on the 80 yarder.As soon as they pay a little more attention to Brian.Bess will benefit even more.
     
  3. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

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    The 80 yarder I have no clue what they were doing he wasnt even covered
     
  4. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Amazing what a single fluke game in which we still lost can do to some people.
     
  5. CRAZYDOLFAN305

    CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB

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    It amazes me that when the facts hit you dead smack in the face, your recourse is to call the greatest performance by any Dolphins in history is somehow a fluke. Was Oakland a fluke to ? Or how bout when he bombed Cromatie for what should have been the game winner if the damn kicker just made the kick.

    So now out of 32 teams, a guy has a performance like he did, and automatically it's fluke. So why didn't the countless other receivers who has worn the Jersey not get a fluke performance like that? I guess the Fluke Gods' only like Hartline. LMAO.

    So 752 combined yards after 4 games is a fluke. Do you know the odds of this been a fluke? Do you know what all that has to go right for this to happen. Like Parcells always said, luck is a great measurement for always being prepared.
     
  6. Phindog

    Phindog A True Fan

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    The play I'm sure is designed to do that type of thing it it worked better than the Miami coaches expected.
     
  7. Phindog

    Phindog A True Fan

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    I sure hope the other defenses we face think this way.Also if Brian didnt slip on the one play where the ball was picked off he could have nearly 300 yards.
     
  8. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

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    I wouldnt call that the greatest performance in dolphin history but i also wouldnt call it a fluke

    ---------- Post added at 12:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 AM ----------

    I think someone just missed thier assignment
     
  9. itsofficial

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    :brewskis: well said!!
     
  10. Adam First

    Adam First Don't Hate Miami Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Tannehill is not going to throw for 4000 yards, Brian Hartline is not going to catch for 1700 yards.

    We're all a little hyped, but it's not realistic to assume that this high of a production is going to continue for the next 12 games
     
  11. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Yes. A fluke. That's exactly what it is when so many of those yards came from one game that Hartline luckily pulled out of his ***. And then when Hartline disappears again like he always does despite being targeted more than every other receiver in the league except one, we can stop the foolishness. Hartline is not a number 1 WR. He'll continue to put up solid numbers since he's targeted more than everyone else but 1 other guy, but he's not a number 1 WR, and will disappear against top corners again and again like he did against Revis and Jonathan Joseph.

    Just SMH at anyone who thinks WR is all of a sudden not a huge need for us. :bobdole:
     
  12. Predaphin

    Predaphin Predator in the Water

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    I was always more concerned about our secondary more than our WR core. As soon as we let VD go, I thought we were in more trouble than before. Now, I'm not so sure VD would have made it that much better, but at least he couldve kept it mediocre.
     
  13. roy_miami

    roy_miami 2020 cant get here soon enough Donator

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    He's not a number one, I'll let the market prove me wrong on that one. If he gets paid more than 12 million a year on his next contract I'll eat crow.
     
  14. AFCMiamiEast

    AFCMiamiEast A True Fan

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    Right on board with you...amazes me the level of pesimistic fans we still have lignering around. Get real...leading the entire NFL in receiving yards after a complete MONTH of pro football is not no damn fluke.
     
  15. CRAZYDOLFAN305

    CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB

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    You do realize Hartline has only been #1 for just 4 games right. Was Peterson day dreaming out Tweet when he was covering him? And you do know when you are the number receiver you are suppose to be targeted allot Marshall was. The most targeted WR when he was here as well why do you think he had so many receptions despite so many drops. .Let send him to Belichick and Tom will show his how much of a receiver Hartline is. And I don't anyone is saying we don't need more and better recovers. I'm just point out the fact everyone said we had the worst receivers in the league and right now we have one of the top tandem in the league. Sometimes its not good to be so quick to judge.
     
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    When Gaffney learns the offense, Tannehill and the rest of the Offense will really take off.
     
  17. CRAZYDOLFAN305

    CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB

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    Last message was sent from my phone.
     
  18. mega-fin-love

    mega-fin-love Just trust me Donator

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    Just because Hartline disappeared with Henne does not mean that he will do the same with Real Deal Tannehill. Hartline also had another 100+ yard game this year..........Would it kill you to be at least a little less negative. Not hatin, just sayin
     
  19. Finland

    Finland Pro Bowler

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    I think most people can get your intention, but the game is not a fluke. Bess has been great for a long time and Hartline too. Besides, the post is about players, not wins.
     
  20. Daytona Fin

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    Hartline is playing for money. He will have a monster year.
     
  21. Finland

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    Did someone say we didn't still need a receiver, what's wrong with liking our good players. So you don't think we should be happy with Hartline? Just yes or no? No double talk about what we need.
     
  22. Phinatic8u

    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Where do I begin...First off Revis makes everybody disappear, not just Hartline, also if you watched the game against Houston, you would've realized Hartline only played 37 snaps and 99% of them were in the 2nd half where he caught 3 for 53. Not sure that,s dissappearing.

    And when the **** did anybody say we didn't need anymore WRs. Making **** up I see.
     
  23. OyeDale305

    OyeDale305 MIA#1

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    Now that hartline is our #1 Wr we should not even waste money for big name Wr in the offseason
     
  24. roy_miami

    roy_miami 2020 cant get here soon enough Donator

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    So if AJ Green has less than 40 yards receiving this week does that make Sean Smith a shut down corner all of a sudden?

    And since you're insisting Hartline is a number 1, please tell us what kind of contract you would give him if you were in Ireland's shoes.
     
  25. dlockz

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    Not really since nobody in our secondary could stop Roberts including Smith but it would definately say he has that potential
     
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    Come on get real. I won't call it a fluke but do you mean to sit here and say you think this is the type of performance that we can expect out of him week in and week out?? What odds to you give him of holding the top spot for recieving yards for the rest of the year?? Or top 5 or even top 10 for that matter?? I say it is less than 25% chance that he stays top 10 in the league in recieving yards for the year. Do you really disagree??

    He had a great game and now people are going to start to notice him. Zona came out and said "they have no one to beat us deep, so we are going to play the short routes and dare them to beat us". Hartline beat the soft defense because they didn't respect him, lets see him do it for the rest of the season. Don't get me wrong, Hartline is a solid #2 WR but he isn't a #1, and never will be.
     
  27. CRAZYDOLFAN305

    CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB

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    And Zona got the answer to their question, Hartline delivered. And yes I believe he can avg atleast 78 yards per game for the rest of the way to end up in the top 10 in receiving yardage. I guess only time will tell. When Wes Welker was showing less than Hartline, NE crowned him. Now, we have a better version and you want to sell him short. I can't wait to see the dumbass look on your face, when Hartline consistently becomes week in and week out, one of the best receivers in the league.
     
  28. dlockz

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    How is Hartline a better version of Welker. You say Welker was showing less than Hartline you have to compare what year they were in. Welker in his third year had 67 receptions while Hartline had less than 40. Welker has had four seasons over 110 receptions and nobody else ever has so you might want to slow your role until Hartline proves it over time.
     
  29. CRAZYDOLFAN305

    CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB

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    #1 Who on this post mentioned Smith as being a shutdown corner? Shutdown corner's don't' get tricked on 4th down's while in Cover 3. Has he improved ? Yes. Does he still have room for growth? Yes.
    #2 Did you see the last two pro-bowlers contract this team negotiated? Solia was thought to be a goner because he was going to warrant to big of a contract. And all Ireland did was resign him to a fair and modet contract for his position. How bout Cam Wake? How well balanced was that contract for both parties. Look, I get it, you people think Ireland is a bafoon, but for every scenario you want to claim he failed I can name plenty more where he succeed it. With that being said, I expect him to sing Hartline to a fair contract based on just 4 games output. Now, if I were Hartline, I wouldn't sign Ireland's contract right now, I would wait to see if I can continue to ride this gravy train and maybe I can sucker him for more money..

    Sometimes, I wonder to some of yall really pay any attention to this team, or because we have sucked so bad, there's never anything positive to ever take out of our management, like signing two of the best Defense of lineman's to contract's no one thought they would ever agree to.
     
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    When Hartline can string together good games instead of his usual good game followed by disappearing act, then we'll talk.
     
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    Directly after your post for one. Hartline is not a #1 WR. If, and that's a big if, he actually manages to string together some good games instead of disappearing, we'll discuss it further then.
     
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    Hartline a better version of Welker. You can't make this stuff up. Only one guy on this board is capable of spewing this stuff time and time again despite being proven wrong time and time again with his laughable overreactions.
     
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    It is great to have the leading WR in terms of yards after four weeks, but let us remain humble and sober until we see how the rest of the season pans out. Some are getting a little delirious on Hartline despite his middle of the pack numbers coming into this season. I like Hartline, but let's not start crowing him a true NFL #1 receiver until he proves he can draw and beat double coverage on a consistent basis.
     
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    A lot of this is Philbin.

    Green Bay's passing attack is not as good as it was last year, and now suddenly Miami has a good passing attack.

    PHILBIN@!
     
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    Look, Hartline can be a number 2, and Bess is a very good slot guy...but we don't have a number 1.

    You don't base a season's production on a couple games...DC's will take Hartline away once it becomes obvious that he is the go to guy with what we have to offer. Thats when it will become glaringly obvious to even the most casual observer that we are still missing that piece.

    With a bonafide number 1, Hartline can stay in one-on-one situations and propser...without it they will take him out of the game.
     
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    Philbin is a G.

    Packers' season ended last year because of the tragedy Philbin endured. A lot of people underestimated how well Philbin can prepare his team, because he wasn't calling the plays in Green Bay. Philbin's attention to detail is the best thing that's happened to Miami in a long time.
     
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    We have to find ways to win football games rather than ways to lose them.

    Start tomorrow.

    Not sure what the point of this thread was.
     
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    its been 4 weeks. lets see where this team is at the half way point, and even more importantly, at week 16.
     
  39. AdamC13

    AdamC13 Awe "Tight End" my favorite position!

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    Could it possibly be that targeting Brandon Marshall so much was a big mistake?

    And all along Hartline and Bess were quality WRs who simply weren't being thrown to enough when the man-child was here...hmm.
     
  40. OyeDale305

    OyeDale305 MIA#1

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    Marshall was the best Wr.. Targeting too much doesn't even make sense. Hartline and Bess are solid Wrs.. Bess is a good playmaking slot Wr and Hartline is a great #2 please stop this homerism
     

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