Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by BAMAPHIN 22, Jul 16, 2007.
well that clearly means he is goin to play more then just ST and a 4th or 5th wR but rather special plays for him.
So, if they both go to pro Bowls year in and year out Ginn will be considered a dud...How about if we end up going to to bowl and the score is 10-3 with Ginn catching a TD pass...In PK's eyes he is a dud as well huh...King just keeps getting more and more convoluted...His football knowledge and awareness is absolutely deteriotating
hey, top 20, not bad.
Preseason power rankings are almost meaningless.
i don't see how if Quinn is good that means the Ginn pick was a bad one. If he had said "if quinn is a great QB and both Ginn and Beck flop", then that's different. We wanted Beck, obviously, so how can you fault us for not taking Quinn if they both are good QBs? let's wait for some on the field play before we judge
It's the aura of the QB, the most prestigious position in most sports. If Quinn excels, it'd be like passing up on Carson Palmer for Andre Johnson. Both are top-notch players but who's the more pivotal for their team?
Well, in Houston it was Andre Johnson. He made whatever career David Carr had...
Take out the "almost" and you are 100% correct
Okay, here's thought: What if Brady Quinn, Ted Ginn, AND John Beck become Pro-Bowlers?
Then the point is moot but in the media's eyes, since Quinn was already hyped and then becomes the pro-bowler that most people expect him to be, then our pick is still bad to whoever thinks. Like the posts stated above, I believe I think if the pick is influential to the team then it really shouldn't matter.
I definitely agree with your last sentence. But I just find it very funny that, according to experts (I use that term loosely), Brady Quinn's amount of sucess is the only determining to whether or not Ginn was a good/smart pick.
what if napoleon dynamite could not dance would pedro have won the presidency
And take out "preseason."
Well he kind of forgot about Beck there. What about if Quinn ends up being very good, but so does Beck. Then wouldn't Miami have won this draft facade. Because they get that qb in beck for 2nd round money (bargain) and on top of that get a playmaker in Ginn. so it's not just Ginn vs Quinn, but Quinn vs Ginn and Beck.
The quarterback position is by far the most important position on the entire feild. The quarterback touches the ball on every single offensive play. Wide recievers on the other hand can be great, but if they dont have a quarterback to get them the ball they are useless. Also you can have mediocre wide recievers and the QB can make them look good, it bareley ever works the other way around.
If Quinn turns out to be a franchise QB and he is better than Beck, then our fins made a huge mistake that will cost us for years. None of the great wide recievers are ever talked about with the great QB's. Ginn would have to be in the class of Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Marvin Harrison, to even come close to being compared to a pro bowl QB, if Quinn ever becomes that...
My biggest fear this year will be hearing a sportscaster pop up a highlight during one of my fins games saying "and there is Daunte Culpepper running for his 1st touchdown after passing for 2 other touchdowns in the game, he has 250 passing yards and its only halftime!!" and right after that "and here is the rookie sensation Brady Quinn winning the game in the final seconds by throwing a 30 yard strike to Braylon Edwards in the back of the endzone, it was Quinns 3rd passing touchdown of the game."
like I said, 19 is pretty dead on at this point...
You know what would be fun, if someone could bring up preseason rankings from last year.
I don't know how this factors into any power rankings for this year. Quinn will almost certainly be a non-factor this year for the Browns.