Slimm's 2012 Underrated Prospects (Seniors)

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  1. TedSlimmJr

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    I usually wait until around the middle of August to make an overrated/underrated thread for the upcoming season... However, I'm going to go ahead and make it a little earlier this year.

    I'll make one for the underclassmen and juniors also as I get around to it... I'll make this thread for Senior prospects that are guaranteed to be in the 2012 NFL Draft barring injury and/or a medical redshirt and a 6th year of eligibility.









    Receivers like Alshon Jeffrey, Justin Blackmon, and Michael Floyd are going to get the majority of the hype and recognition this year, but Jeff Fuller might be my favorite out of all of them. He's a physical receiver with incredibly strong hands, a significant catch radius, and a polished route runner among other things. He's improved every year, and I think he's in for a big Senior season with Ryan Tannehill throwing him the football.... perhaps even his best season. I think he's a solid top 20 pick, and a big reason why aTm has a shot to sneak by Oklahoma this year and win the Big-12(-2).



    Here's a little bit of him against the best cornerback in the country last year in Patrick Peterson...







    [video=youtube;GXJ4FcW8Nug]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXJ4FcW8Nug&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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  2. TedSlimmJr

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    Bruce Irvin is a guy who almost led the nation in sacks last season (finished 2nd in the country with 14 sacks) despite being in his first season, and playing mostly only on 3rd downs. At 6'3", 240, he's a prime candidate to be looked at as one of the top "hybrid" pass rushers in college football in 2012, who will be looked at as a potential 3-4 rush end at the next level. He's going to get his chance to be an every down player this year as a Senior, and prove his worth to NFL scouts.

    He's still a little one dimensional right now, but he's an absolute terror rushing the passer with his elite first step, quickness off the snap, and relentless pursuit. Even if he doesn't match his sack total as a Senior, he can still be a better overall football player by the end of the season than he was last year.




    Here he is versus Maryland:



    [video=youtube;UUCk9jVF5z8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUCk9jVF5z8&feature=player_embedded[/video]







    Versus N.C. State:




    [video=youtube;me5hL6ob7MM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me5hL6ob7MM[/video]
     
  3. TedSlimmJr

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    Doug Martin is an underrated running back... plain and simple. His low center of gravity, and tough/determined running style makes him a little bit of a poor man's Mark Ingram. The difference is, Mark Ingram didn't fumble. That's the only concern I have with Martin is that he has to be consistent totin' the rock. He's averaged over 6.0 yards per carry the last two seasons.

    Martin won't be a 1st rounder, but I think he'll make a solid pick in the 3rd round or so for a team that likes squatty, underrated, tough runners who can gain yards after contact. He could put up a 1,500 yard season as a Senior with a big game against Georgia in the season opener, and TCU on November, 12th. Those are the only two legitimate defenses he'll face all season, the rest are cupcakes.




    Here's a little of him against Nevada:





    [video=youtube;FKyoik3ZEXw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKyoik3ZEXw[/video]
     
  4. TedSlimmJr

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    You won't hear of many folks having a player from Vanderbilt as an underrated prospect, but Casey Hayward can play in the NFL in my opinion. He's more of a man cover corner that has the hips to turn and run with any receiver in the SEC, and the ball skills to pick off passes if he's allowed to turn his head and locate the football. He struggles in zone coverage, and won't be a fit for every scheme, and doesn't play off-man as well as he should either.

    He's more of a bump-and-run type corner...


    If he improves his awareness, learns to keep his head up and play with his heels on the ground as a Senior, he'll be a top 150 selection....






    Hayward vs. UCONN:




    [video=youtube;vmK3HkxOpuQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmK3HkxOpuQ[/video]
     
  5. TedSlimmJr

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    The SEC has 3 Senior running backs who all have the skills to play on Sundays (Brandon Bolden/Ole Miss --- Vick Ballard/Miss. St. --- and Tauren Poole/Tennessee)


    All three of them run EXTREMELY hard, break tackles, get the tough yards inside, and have a nose for the goal line.





    Tauren Poole vs. Oregon: (the run at the 2:00 mark is fabulous)



    [video=youtube;79qeIQk8yIQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79qeIQk8yIQ&feature=player_embedded#at=24[/video]
     
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    Love the Tauren Poole pick.
     
  7. TedSlimmJr

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    I absolutely love this kid... he's the son of former NFL cornerback, Frank Minnifield, and has been groomed as a defensive back since he was old enough to walk. He can play off-man and zone.... needs more refinement on his technique in press coverage in order to win more initially at the line of scrimmage. Very physical corner who supports the run and is a terrific tackler. Reminds me of a young Patrick Surtain when he came out of Southern Miss....




    Chase Minnifield vs. USC:



    [video=youtube;Bhh0GVu08Xs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhh0GVu08Xs[/video]
     
  8. TedSlimmJr

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    Vinny Curry is a classic RDE in a 4-3... who's production and ability tends to get overlooked because of the conference he plays in. I think it's a coin flip as to whether or not he gets selected in the 1st round despite his ability due to age. Although, another season of film as quality as last year's is likely to steamroll this kid right into the mix as a 1st round pick in 2012...




    Curry vs. Ohio St.:




    [video=youtube;QnxzVx2-gKs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnxzVx2-gKs[/video]
     
  9. TedSlimmJr

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    Tank Carder is.... an animal. He's the heart and soul of Gary Patterson's 4-2-5 defense that has proven to be one of, if not the best base personnel package in college football in terms of defending spread offenses. Although adjustments had to be made to match up with a power offense and a dominating offensive line like Wisconsin's in the Rose Bowl.





    Tank Carder vs. Wisconsin:



    [video=youtube;OBQTw7zBv1k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQTw7zBv1k[/video]
     
  10. TedSlimmJr

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    The Wolverines' defense was awful last year, but it's not this guy's fault. All he did was soak up double teams playing a 0-technique in Rich Rod's miscast 3-3-5 defense, and play hard Every. Single. Snap.

    Strong as a bull and relentless. He should be playing more "shade" techniques this year as a Senior, as Michigan moves back to a more conventional (and sane) 4-3 defense under Brady Hoke and defensive coordinator Greg Mattison. Mike Martin was a good player on a sorely miscast defensive unit.





    Mike Martin vs. Indiana:



    [video=youtube;BDM5A0QcnTo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDM5A0QcnTo[/video]
     
  11. TedSlimmJr

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    All this kid did was rattle off SEVEN straight 100 yard games after taking over for Christine Michael, including a season high 223 yards vs. rival Texas...


    Cyrus Gray may not quite have the bulk to be your bellcow in the NFL, although he's deceptively powerful and explosive. I figure he'll share carries as a Senior with Michael to a large extent, and he won't have a lot of tread on his tires when he enters the draft. Reminds me a little bit of Jahvid Best....




    Cyrus Gray vs. LSU:



    [video=youtube;CiKfS2Olc9I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I[/video]







    Cyrus Gray vs. Baylor and Nebraska:




    [video=youtube;CDnulol-LaU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDnulol-LaU[/video]
     
  12. TedSlimmJr

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    Lavonte David set Nebraska's single season school record for tackles last year... when you watch the film, it's easy to see why. His trigger is phenomenal and his instincts are spectacular. A little undersized to be a fit for every scheme, but he'll be a sideline to sideline maniac in a system where the big defensive tackles up front keep him clean. David wasn't a highly recruited prospect coming out of highschool (only rated a 2 star), and chose to go the Community College route before signing with Nebraska, rather than attend Middle Tennessee State. He's a native of Miami, and was high school teammates with the next guy I'm going to list....




    Lavonte David vs. Kansas St.:




    [video=youtube;RUnoq27C9Gc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUnoq27C9Gc&feature=related[/video]







    Lavonte David vs. Oklahoma:




    [video=youtube;Nwra0ZN3VyQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwra0ZN3VyQ&feature=related[/video]
     
  13. TedSlimmJr

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    Sean Spence and Lavonte David were partners in crime at Miami Northwestern... Much like David, Sean Spence is undersized to be a fit for every scheme.

    However, if he's in a system that allows him to fly around and make plays, Spence has a shot at an NFL career in my opinion, and perhaps be drafted a lot earlier than anyone expects. He's one of the few players I've seen at the University of Miami recently that just "get it". Spence is fine dropping into coverage, or coming up to make plays at or behind the line of scrimmage. I think he'll be a favorite of Al Golden almost immediately. Hits like a 250 pounder....





    Sean Spence vs. Ohio St.:




    [video=youtube;Z5cvshec56A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5cvshec56A[/video]
     
  14. TedSlimmJr

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    Courtney Upshaw is underrated in my opinion because I don't think anyone understands just how good he really is yet. He ended the season playing the best football of his career, notching 5 sacks and 6 TFL's in the final game and a half against Auburn and Michigan St. (he didn't play much in the 2nd half of the 49-7 beatdown of the Spartans). Upshaw absolutely dominated both games.

    He plays the "jack" linebacker position in Saban's defense. Playing from a 2-point stance in base 3-4 personnel, and rushing with his hand on the ground in nickel packages. His physical nature borders on brutality. Understands leverage and uses his hands to perfection... sheds blocks with ease.






    Upshaw vs. Auburn and Mississippi St.:




    [video=youtube;sCXejeD1YV8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXejeD1YV8[/video]
     
  15. TedSlimmJr

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    Montel Harris isn't big, and he isn't that fast... However, he's an extremely durable, workhorse type back that just knows how to get it done between the tackles the ol' fashioned way. He's played in all 39 games for BC over the past 3 years, and is only 125 yards away from becoming the school's all time leading rusher. Shifty runner with excellent vision and balance... his legs never go dead on contact... which is a mandatory attribute a back must have to play in the NFL.

    Not the biggest or fastest... just a short, squatty, hard nosed, determined, durable, dependable, productive runner that demonstrates ball security, and knows how to get it done between the tackles? Backs like that will always grab ol' Slimm's attention....





    Montel Harris vs. Clemson:



    [video=youtube;UZ9sVaHSE94]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ9sVaHSE94[/video]
     
  16. TedSlimmJr

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    The Razorbacks bring the deepest and most talented group of receivers in the country with Greg Childs, Jarius Wright, Cobi Hamilton, and Joe Adams. Greg Childs is the best pro prospect of the group in my opinion, but Joe Adams is the most underrated.

    Adams is deadly from the slot with his extreme quickness and run-after-catch-ability, but also split out beyond the numbers where his speed is put on display. One of the best things I notice about Joe Adams is that he's ALWAYS open... and it's not because of blown coverage. It's because he knows how to get seperation from the defensive back.

    The one thing he has to cut down on is the drops... I don't think any of his drops last year were more costly than the one you'll see here on Arkansas' first play of the game against Ohio St. in the Sugar Bowl. Mallett threw a perfect pass that would've resulted in a long touchdown if Adams just manages to catch the football.

    He also brings outstanding special teams ability on punt returns, averaging over 15 yards per return....





    Joe Adams vs. Georgia, Auburn, Ohio St.:




    [video=youtube;IBi8374HyeU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBi8374HyeU[/video]
     
  17. TedSlimmJr

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    Marquis Maze is a lot like Joe Adams, perhaps a tad shorter and a step slower (we're still talking 4.4 speed here)... except Maze's hands are very, very reliable.

    I honestly have no idea what type of season lies ahead for Maze with the absence of Julio Jones to take most of the attention away, and with Bama breaking in a new quarterback.

    What I do know is that Marquiz Maze will produce big in situations where he's facing single coverage if Bama's quarterback can just get him the football... often just flat out blowing by the defensive back...

    Maze reminds me a little bit of Santana Moss when he came out of Miami....






    Maze vs. Miss. St.:




    [video=youtube;6RfVpIZlH6k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RfVpIZlH6k&feature=related[/video]
     
  18. TedSlimmJr

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    Danny Trevathan would probably start for just about any defense in the SEC... he led the SEC last season with 144 tackles.

    Much like Lavonte David and Sean Spence, Trevathan is probably a little undersized to be a fit for every scheme... certainly not the Adonis that former Wildcat linebacker Micah Johnson was... but Trevathan is a better tackler.

    It'll be interesting to see how Trevathan performs this season when Kentucky goes to their 3-4 alignments....





    Trevathan vs. Auburn:




    [video=youtube;9NldlR1nmvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NldlR1nmvI[/video]
     
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    Lavonte David, Doug Martin and Tank Carder are definitely players that intrigued me last year. Nice list Slimm.
     
  20. TedSlimmJr

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    I don't think this kid is quite as good as Danny Trevathan (doesn't have the range of Trevathan, nor is he as solid a tackler), but Jerry Franklin has a shot to lead the Razorbacks in tackles for 4 straight years.

    When I compare Jerry Franklin to Trevathan, I come away under the impression that one of these kids can play in the NFL, and the other one is simply an underrated SEC linebacker that I need to see improve in some areas as a Senior. Can you guess which is which?

    Franklin might be more of a 2-down linebacker at the next level in my opinion, but there's usually a role for these type of linebackers in the NFL.





    Jerry Franklin vs. Auburn:




    [video=youtube;PKbE9EYB754]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKbE9EYB754&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
  21. TedSlimmJr

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    I'm going to conclude my list of underrated Senior prospects with a few more guys from each position that are for the most part, underrated kids and a few more guys I like...





    Quarterbacks:


    Chandler Harnish - Northern Illinois

    Austin Davis - Southern Miss

    Dan Persa - Northwestern




    Running Backs:


    Bobby Rainey - Western Kentucky

    Bryce Beall - Houston




    Wide Receivers:


    T.Y. Hilton - FIU

    Jarrett Boykin - Virginia Tech

    Jermaine Kearse - Washington

    B.J. Cunningham - Michigan St.

    Rishard Matthews - Nevada

    Derek Moye - Penn St.

    Marvin McNutt - Iowa

    Kendall Wright - Baylor

    Marvin Jones - California




    Tight Ends:


    Ladarius Green - UL Lafayette

    Coby Fleener - Stanford




    Offensive Tackles:


    Al Netter - Northwestern

    Mike Ryan - UCONN



    Offensive Guards:


    Rokevious Watkins - South Carolina

    Brandon Mosely - Auburn




    Centers:


    David Molk - Michigan

    William Vlachos - Alabama









    Defensive Ends:


    Jake Bequette - Arkansas

    Marcus Robinson - Miami

    Jason Peters - Georgia Tech

    Adrian Robinson - Temple





    Defensive Tackles:


    Alameda Ta'amu - Washington

    Billy Winn - Boise St.

    Derek Wolfe - Cincinnati

    Kheeston Randle - Texas




    Linebackers:


    Jericho Nelson - Arkansas (I actually like this kid better than Jerry Franklin)

    Chris Marve - Vanderbilt





    Cornerbacks:


    Dequan Menzie - Alabama (Dre Kirkpatrick gets all the hype, but I'm here to tell you that Menzie is the best cornerback on Alabama's roster... just watch what I'm trying to tell you here...)


    Tashaun Gipson - Wyoming

    Brandon Boykin - Georgia (Also one of the country's most dangerous kick returners)

    Morris Claiborne - LSU

    Shaun Prater - Iowa




    Safeties:


    Markelle Martin - Oklahoma St.

    Blake Gideon - Texas

    Harrison Smith - Notre Dame

    Winston Guy - Kentucky

    George Iloka - Boise St.
     
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    Overrated Senior prospects, I'd have to go with the following:




    Quarterbacks:

    Kirk Cousins - Michigan St.

    Nick Foles - Arizona

    Case Keenum - Houston



    Running Backs:


    N/A




    Wide Receivers:


    Juron Criner - Arizona

    Devier Posey - Ohio St.





    Tight Ends:


    George Bryan - N.C. State





    Offensive Tackles:


    Matt Reynolds - BYU




    Offensive Guards:


    N/A




    Centers:


    N/A






    Defensive Ends:


    Jack Crawford - Penn St.

    Andre Branch - Clemson





    Defensive Tackles:


    N/A




    Linebackers:


    N/A




    Cornerbacks:

    Neiko Thorpe - Auburn



    Safeties:

    N/A
     
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    i like jeff fuller...that kids a specimen...i agree underrated...but is it me or is that qbs timing pretty damn spot on and the balls delivered exactly where it needs to be...some pretty tight windows he's throwin those balls into...not a whole lot of separation on the outside...but thats the best corner i've seen in quite a while he's doin it against also
     
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    wow...that kids explosive...he's a yard off the ball at the snap on many of those rushes against the maryland tackle and still beating him around the edge like he's standing still...i'm impressed...technique looks raw but there's some high end tools there...that get off of the ball is pretty damn jaw dropping...looks like his change of direction is pretty good also...motor looks good...i'm betting he measures in at the combine or senior bowl at 6 ft 1 and some change that doesn't look like 6 ft 3 to me...i look forward to seeing him this season no doubt

    worst case looks like he'd make a heck of a situational pass rusher
     
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    is catching the screen pass underneath and probably the flare in the flat pretty much the extent of what he offers as a receiver??? looks like a 2 down guy to me in the pros
     
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    thats pretty much what i'm seeing...like him in bump and run...don't like him all that much in anything else
     
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    i like the minnifield kid and fleener
     
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    You're damn right that QB's timing, anticipation, and ball placement is spot on. If you check my overrated/underrated thread I made circa this time last year prior to the start of the season, Jerod Johnson was at the top of my overrated list of quarterbacks. (Meanwhile the talking heads had him as a 1st round pick)

    Once Mike Sherman finally benched Johnson halfway through the season and inserted Ryan Tannehill at quarterback, aTm went on a tear winning 6 of their last 7 games.... including wins over Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas Tech, Baylor, and Texas.

    Tannehill wasn't sitting on the bench pouting in the meantime though... he was busy playing wide receiver, and producing. That's how good of an athlete he is.

    He was one of the top dual threat quarterbacks coming out of high school. He has an incredibly strong arm, and uncanny accuracy. Plus, he's a winner. He has a certain set of intangibles that make him a legitimate NFL quarterback prospect in my opinion. Ryan Tannehill could win the Heisman Trophy this year... it's possible.

    As for Jeff Fuller, the seperation he was getting against Peterson was just fine.... and he did it with his route running... Which to me, was the most impressive thing about their epic one-on-one battle that day in the Cotton Bowl.
     
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    Yeah I'll go 6'2" and change... His first few steps are so smooth, almost like he's gliding above the turf. Very reminiscent of Jerry Hughes and how smooth his initial burst and first few steps were...
     
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    Well, Boise St.'s offense isn't really designed to get the ball to the running back in the passing game. Martin did catch 28 passes last year though, which is the most any running back has caught since Chris Peterson has been the head coach..
     
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    Something about the way Fuller moves reminds me of P. Burress.

    Also, C. Gray reminds me a bit of A. Bradshaw. Sudden, stronger than his frame would indicate, etc.

    Awesome work on both threads, Slimm.
     
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    Thanks, johd... and good call on the Cyrus Gray/Ahmad Bradshaw comparison...


    Fuller isn't as big as Burress though... Fuller reminds me of Dwayne Bowe...
     
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    Bowe makes more sense. After I posted, was going to say he reminds me more of a poor-man's Julio Jones (not an insult) - doesn't seem as explosive to me. Definitely going to revisit both of these when I had more time, but I also enjoyed watching the LB from TCU.
     
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    yeah i think dwayne bowe is the most accurate comparison...and like bowe i don't think he's fleet of foot or all that overly explosive...watching that video fuller looks pretty quick burst initially off the los but i don't see a guy thats gonna run by people at the next level and he's not overly quick or popping off the screen in and out of his breaks...i think slimms right its his route running that gives him the separation he needs against a corner like peterson...you'll notice on those videos when fuller is heading into his route vertically the further he gets down the field the more peterson is in his hip pocket and doesn't look to be exerting himself all that much to do so...i like the body though...got an nfl body
     
  35. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Here's some Kheeston Randle vs. Oklahoma:





    [video=youtube;mz88PiWl2q0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz88PiWl2q0&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
  36. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Other than Peter Konz (underclassman), Mike Brewster is the best Senior center prospect in the country. He has terrific lower body strength and plays with a wide base. Sometimes he looks like the best player on the field for either team...

    Powerful drive blocker and also has quick feet and some athletic ability pulling and trapping. A real pain in the a$$ to deal with when he gets to the second level. Intelligent kid.





    Mike Brewster vs. Miami:




    [video=youtube;eunPFlhl3wY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eunPFlhl3wY[/video]
     
  37. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Keenan Robinson is another kid who just "gets it". However, he also has the size, speed, athletic ability, instincts, and football IQ to make an impact in the NFL at linebacker.

    Robinson has already graduated and has his degree (with honors)...


    He also brings with him significant value to play special teams. This kid has a great shot to make it in the NFL in my opinion. This game against Oklahoma was probably his best performance of the season, where he racked up 10 solo tackles and 1.5 TFL's against the rival Sooners...

    He's losing Will Muschamp as his defensive coordinator, but he gained Manny Diaz. It'll be interesting to see how he performs as a Senior in Diaz's system...





    Keenan Robinson vs. Oklahoma:




    [video=youtube;69EjfYX0kyE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69EjfYX0kyE[/video]
     
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  38. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    I don't know if many of you caught that 63-60 boatrace last night between Toledo and NIU, but two very underrated players put on a show. Eric Page was one, he became the first MAC receiver to catch 5 TD's in a single game since Randy Moss. The other was of course, Chandler Harnish, who threw for 265 yards and 6 TD's with 0 INT's.. along with 133 rushing yards.

    Harnish was only a 2-star dual-threat quarterback in the same class of '07 that included Tyrod Taylor, Cam Newton, Stephen Garcia, G.J. Kinne, Dan Persa, Ryan Tannehill, Josh Nesbitt, etc. Including guys that were moved to WR and developed into terrific receivers (Marvin McNutt at Iowa, Torrey Smith at Maryland, Keith Nichol at Michigan St., etc.)

    He's a 4 year starter for NIU, and he's gotten better every year. He plays out of the shotgun in a zone read, so obviously he'll need some time to develope in the NFL, although he has athletic ability to burn, and is a natural passer of the football with adequate physical tools and arm strength. I think he's a better prospect than Pat Devlin was.

    Harnish's absolute floor in the NFL is probably Tyler Thigpen, with his ceiling potentially being somewhere in the Tony Romo neighborhood, or a bigger Jeff Garcia. I think he's a very underrated prospect who'll make fine pick for some team in the middle rounds looking for a developmental quarterback to develope for a few seasons before they turn him loose.
     
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    Ted,
    Here's a small school player you may not have heard of, but to keep your eye on from Bloomsburg University.

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    [TD="class: roster_dgrd_no"]70 [/TD]
    [TD="class: roster_dgrd_full_name"]Daryl Kurtz[/TD]
    [TD="class: roster_dgrd_academic_year"]Sr. [/TD]
    [TD="class: roster_dgrd_rp_position_short"]OL[/TD]
    [TD="class: roster_dgrd_height"]6-5[/TD]
    [TD="class: roster_dgrd_rp_weight"]320[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

    Very similar to former BU Huskie Jahari Evans. Jahari has a little more athletic ability while Kurtz will try and remove your head and relocate it to your rectum. He's damn good and can project as a day 1 starter at OG.
     
  40. utahphinsfan

    utahphinsfan Puck Fitzburgh

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    Just moments ago, on ESPN, there was a piece on Courtney Upshaw. It was the 1st I've heard of him. Then, I discover this thread.

    Regardless of scheme, Upshaw IMO s/b the next priority behind a franchise QB.
     

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