So who should be returning kicks and punts?

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  1. RandomDolphan

    RandomDolphan Active Member

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    I just wanted to sign up and cry about Chris Williams apparently getting caught stealing from a third world country salesman and having his hands cut off :boohoo:

    So, assuming they don't plan on having Bess back there catching the ball and placing it in between Williams' forearm and chest, who do you want catching and returning said ball? ... I say they stick Cameron Wake back there. I've heard he's scary fast, right? ... Right! ... It's Brilliant! :hi5:



    Your thoughts?
     
  2. alb0bo

    alb0bo Seasoned Veteran Finheaven VIP

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    If they can staighten Williams out I think he should maybe just do returns and long punt and put Bess on short and fair cathes.
     
  3. Astrosback

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    KR should be Ginn. He is proven here and doing kick returns will ensure that he doesn't disappear from any games.

    PR should be Hartline. He's a safe option and he is shifty enough with good enough vision to offer enough of a threat.

    Keep Bess fresh b/c he'll be our most active WR.
     
  4. Astrosback

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    Chris Williams is gone. He bobbled every single ball he touched.
     
  5. TheDon74

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    You realize your only allowed 53 men on a roster right? Besides the fact that the guy is garbage.
     
  6. alb0bo

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    He has potential - I think you are right but premature at this point. I'll wait til cut down. He could turn it around next week for two td's and we will be praising him.
     
  7. Chainsaw

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    Wait, you want to keep the number 2 (maybe) in Bess fresh. But, you want the number one (Ginn) to be returning kicks. That doesn't make sense.

    And please no, not Hartline. He is a horrible option. He looked totally awkward out there and too damn tall for a PR. Bess would even be better.

    How about Hilliard? Can he catch? How would you like to have to tackle that tank with those moves as a gunner.

    And before you poo poo it, his 3 cone and shuttle run are faster than Bess's. So, his quickness is not an illusion.

    I'd prefer Chris Williams to be the guy. But, he needs to not muff or bobble ANYTHING in practice for the next two weeks for him to get another shot at it.

    Cuz, that dude can bring it once he has it in his hands. I am really pulling for him because he will drastically upgrade the return game if he can get it right.
     
  8. KDog13

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    1 man Lex Hilliard
     
  9. alb0bo

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    Lex is a north and south guy - returners need to make first guy miss.
     
  10. ckparrothead

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    Kick returns are a tough call...I too would love to see Lex Hilliard there a few times, to see how he handles it. But, Pat Cobbs was decent there a year ago.

    Punt returns should belong to Davone Bess. He's proven that he is one of the better punt returners in the NFL. He'll be even better in his second year there. Kick returns may remain an issue but punt returns will not be one.
     
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    Hester!!!! Man, I wish!
     
  12. Sirspud

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    I think Patrick Cobbs will be returning kick-offs. As for punts, its probably a toss-up between the receivers, but right now just who is gonna to make the roster there is a toss-up because none of them have done anything to justify a roster spot behind the top 3.
     
  13. MadDog 88

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    Although I like his potential when he hangs on to the ball, Chris Williams may not be in camp in 2 weeks.
     
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    Ted Ginn for sure on punt returns. I do nominate Williams for the burger king whopper jr commercial
     
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    My thoughts exactly on Cobbs. I wouldn't be surprised to see him back there next week.
     
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    Cobbs & Bess.
     
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    I think Cobbs would make for an awesome PR
     
  18. Dr. Phin

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    I would like to see Hartline just to see what he has.
     
  19. KDog13

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    what about Anthony Armstrong
     
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    Who - he is gone!!
     
  21. RandomDolphan

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    Bess and Cobbs seem to be the safe bets, but there's no point in putting them back there for the preseason games as far as I'm concerned. Who should get a shot back there to see if they can do something great?

    I didn't like what I saw from Hartline or Armstrong back there...

    Give Cam Wake a shot I say! Oh, or Paul Soliai. Didn't he almost keep up with Ronnie Brown in practice about a week ago while running 30 yards down the field? Give him a shot to! :hump:
     
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    Cobbs KR

    Hartline PR

    :ponder:
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    There is absolutely a point putting them back there in the preseason. The same reason you put Chad Pennington in preseason games even though you know what he generally offers you. This is a process, and part of that process is getting the players used to live fire conditions again so that they can start out hot without mistakes. You don't want the first time Patrick Cobbs has fielded a kickoff since 2008 being against Atlanta. You want to get him some reps in preseason so that he's used to it again.
     
  24. alb0bo

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    Anybody see the arizona - sd game - 7th rounder is a great return guy in the mold of williams - return of 89 and 63
     
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    If he held onto the ball he is not of the same mold.
     
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    Well, it SHOULD be Ginn, but that's not going to happen unfortunately.
     
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    Ginn, because he's a 99 on madden. LOL.
     
  28. clevelandm13

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    I say give Williams another shot, I sure do not want to get Bess or Cobbs hurt. Or maybe the truck we call Lex!!
     
  29. Kiick72

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    I was really hoping Williams would lock it up as well, but he was horrible last night. He really needed to shine and instead it reminded me that you can't polish a turd.
     
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    kr possiblities cobbs, davis, or joey thomas
    pr hartline, davis, culver

    if williams doesn't make the team
     
  31. ckparrothead

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    Sounds like we'll be getting our wish. Tony Sparano specifically said they we might see Lex Hilliard back on a few kick returns, during his latest press conference.
     
  32. Dr. Phin

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    Yep, and I couldn't help but think of Williams. That kid took advantage of the situation and absolutely lit it up. He did everything he could to make the team...Williams...not so much...
     
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    i THINK EITHER COBBS OR HILLIARD.. HILLIARD SHOWS GOOD CUTTING ABILITY AND GREAT SPEED... Althougn we have to see how Hilliard fields kicks. (Sorry for the caps)
     
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    The dude couldnt catch a punt.
     
  35. ckparrothead

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    What is interesting is that both Hilliard and Cobbs are 4.6 guys in the speed department. Hilliard looked fast enough on that 39 yard scamper but that was in part because the two players chasing him were the 4.8 speed J Leman, and the 4.6 speed Quinton Teal. That's why I want to see Lex on the kick returns, to see if the lack of speed ends up looking more noticeable, or if he's able to bring a little bit of his running magic to the kick return game.
     
  36. FinSolari

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    Did Sparano say that Hilliard will see time at the KR position in the tampa game?
    I want to see more of hartline fielding punts, I think he is faster than Bess, I am not so sure.
     
  37. ckparrothead

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    He didn't specify a game, he just named the players that they're going to start taking more looks at on kick returns and first he said Pat Cobbs, then he said Ginn, and then he suggested the Hilliard might get a few looks there as well.
     
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    I love to see Cobbs do kickoffs w/ Ginn and Teddy handle the punt returns
     

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