So who should be the next headcoach?

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  1. Clipse

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    Let's face it, Sparano isn't a good coach. Would of served him right to fire the worst OC in the league, but they don't call him Morono for nothing. So that poses this question, who will be our next coach, realistically.

    The first real option is Bill Cowher. There was talk about him possibly joining the Giants or Browns after this season. I think Mangini keeps his job. I think Coughlin keeps his job also. He would be #1 on my list.

    The second real option is Jon Gruden. Really like what he did in Oakland. A lot of people feel he's overrated because he did what Tony Dungy couldn't do and won a SB in Tampa Bay with Dungy's players on defense. I like Gruden though. Watching him on ESPN, he seems to have a real passion for the game.

    Another option I like is Mike Martz. He knows how to use a gunslinger, unlike the idiots running the team right now. He also knows how to dial up screens, and use RB's in the passing game, unlike the idiots currently running the team. He has a 53-32 record as a headcoach.

    Jim Harbaugh is one I really like also.

    Some other guys to mention. Rob Ryan. Has been doing a real nice job with the Browns defense. I personally wouldn't hire him as I really like Nolan, and think we need an offense oriented guy. Also a guy with experience, as I don't think I can handle another noob. Perry Fewell would fall under there as well. There's Brian Billick. He wouldn't be a bad choice imo. There's Jim Haslett. Not sure about him. There's Steve Mariucci. He gets a worse rap then he deserves for the Lions 0-16 season imo. Matt Millen had that team completely devoid of talent. There's Jason Garrett. A lot of talk that Jerry Jones might look to sign a big name head coach. Another choice is Mike Holmgren who has supposedly expressed interest in returning to coaching. He certainly fits the bill for an experienced guy. Last but not least Tony Dungy might be an option though I'm not much of a fan.

    Another guy that interests me, not as a headcoach, but as an OC, is Mike Leach. Often though of as a Mike Martz clone. Could very well bring us a high powered offense.

    My personal top 4 for a headcoach would be Harbaugh, Cowher, Gruden, and Martz in that order. What say you?
     
  2. Adam First

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    I'm a huge Jon Gruden fan, although I don't like the way he brings in skeletons to play (Jeff Garcia, etc)
     
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    I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN!!! JON GRUDEN, JON GRUDEN, JON GRUDEN! Bring in a F*CKING COACH WHO KNOWS WHAT OFFENSE AND TOUCHDOWNS ARE!!!!!!!
     
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    who would want to come in here right now?

    how many careers has this team ruined.....

    yeah i am a little bitter tonight
     
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    Cam Cameron!
     
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    Jim Harbaugh.
     
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    Gruden or harbaugh
     
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    Actually, Rod Marinelli was the head coach of the Lions during their 0-16 season.
     
  11. zodiak

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    Great question

    my thoughts are:

    cowher(for toughness defense and passion)
    in fact my buddy suggest a cowher-Marino combo
    in which Marino is a czar type guy with cowher handling
    coaching

    gruden(passion plain and simple...down side to gruden
    players grow weary of his constant negativity)

    holmgren(never really liked him however I respect his
    accomplishments and of all the possabilitys he has the best
    track record with finding QB's
     
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    Sparano. If we keep getting a new coach, this franchise will keep going backwards.
     
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    I wish we could get Rob Ryan, but he would never come here!:rotfl1:
     
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    Any coach who will instill a tough, physical and disciplined football team in Miami!!!!
     
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    we have talent

    I would like a Dungy tree guy

    Leslie Frazier?
     
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    Gruden. I would love that. Come on Ross!
     
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    At this point, I'll take Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck over what we have now.
     
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    Sparao waddles like a duck, is that good enough??
     
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    Thanks for correcting me. Will fix that.
     
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    Forgot all about Jim Harbaugh. Would definitely be in my top 3.
     
  22. volk

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    I would be interested in Gruden or Cowher. The problem with this team is that the ownership has shifted focus from football to creating a party atmosphere. It will be more difficult to get a REAL coach now.
     
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    This franchise needs a leader! We need a strong personality in a head coach, I am going to vote for Gruden.
    He has a SB ring and that garners instant respect.
    He is still young and has passion, not a tired old guy like Holmgren.
    He seems like he prefers to be back on the sidelines, rather than behind a desk like Cowher.
    Give me Gruden, and let's dump Tony "sun glasses at night" Sparano.
     
  24. Myles Fynch

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    I would install Nolan as the interim HC on Monday and allow him to interview for the permanent position at the end of the year.

    Cowher's dream job was supposedly Carolina... now would be his best chance with Fox's team imploding. Maybe he's changed his mind since those "Cowher to Carolina" rumors were so rampant, IDK.

    I would be fine with Gruden. He was highly regarded as an OC in Philadelphia before going to the Raiders... and while people claim he won a Super Bowl with Dungy's Tampa Bay team the fact is that his opponent in that Super Bowl was the Raiders team he built in Oakland--in spite of the Al Davis interference.

    Rob Ryan would be an interesting choice what with his brother's team one of our most despised division rivals. Still, he's done a very good job with the defense in Cleveland and players have responded with great loyalty to both his father and brother Rex. The downside with him is similar to that of his father and brother... the "loose cannon" syndrome. One minute you think he's turning your team around, and the next he's caught in some PR nightmares of his own making. Dancing with the devil here, but the payoff could be pretty nice.

    I might be inclined to give Leslie Frazier a call if the Vikings don't put him in as a replacement for Childress. He interviewed with us before and it it was said he was very impressive.

    Unsure about Dungy. Is he hungry to come back to coaching? He built a good team in Tampa that couldn't get over the hump and had Peyton in Indy. Would his rep be considered so highly if the Colts had one of our throwaway QBs from the mid-2000s instead? Not to mention Polian destroying the rest of the league in the draft year after year is why I'm not sure about him--he did get some awfully good players to work with.

    I'm staying away from college coaches. Too much culture shock between how to motivate a 19 year old poor kid whom you can bench vs a guy making $19mil a year whom you can't.

    There could be some coordinators I'm missing who are worthy candidates, but these are the main guys that would be on my short list.
     
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    here is a list

    http://www.nationalfootballdigest.com/2010/07/early-2010-head-coaching-candidates.html

    this guy intrigues me

     
  26. X-Pacolypse

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    Best idea I've heard tonight. Why not? Seriously, what do we have to lose at this point?
     
  27. Myles Fynch

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    That's a good suggestion. I follow the Eagles somewhat when I'm in Jersey and McDermott has pleasantly surprised the people who didn't think he'd be able to keep Jim Johnson's defense rolling right along. Might be hiring him too early (see McDaniels in Denver) so there could be growing pains, but if you get the right guy it's worth it in the long run. You can spend a decade with the wrong one(s). McDermott has been working in a solid system with Andy Reid, so that experience is a plus.
     
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    I want someone young and brilliant

    had enough of the retarded cheerleader type
     
  29. zodiak

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    I don't see Cowher going any place other than Carolina
    unless Marino can do a sell job on the phins.

    The interesting thing here is coaches like holmgren
    gruden and cowher will have great leverage because of Dallas
    non IMO want Dallas but they will "use" Dallas

    gruden seems to me the high reward high risk choice
    his resume is a mixed bag...in oak he had very good teams
    built by al Davis in Tampa he won with a team rich mckay
    put together but slowly eroded under the gruden-Allen watch

    so I have my reservations regarding gruden

    holmgren has the better track record in terms of finding QBs
    and if your like me it starts and stops with the QB
    then holmgren maybe a better choice
     
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    College coaches are usually NEVER successful in the NFL. Say no to Harbaugh.

    I say Cowher, Gruden, Billick.
     
  31. BARF

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    we got to keep going until we get it right
     
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    Billick?

    I just threw up in my mouth

    ---------- Post added at 12:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 AM ----------

    Billick is to HC's as Dilfer is to QB's
     
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    are u insane bring in mrs doubtfire/mike martz as a coach NO WAY, maybe as an oc yes
     
  34. Myles Fynch

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    Tonight was really a "line in the sand" moment for me. If I were Ross I couldn't go on with another BS press conference about working harder and making the commitment to getting better. Those lines only work when people believe it will make a difference. Tony's not the guy for this job, and it's all rolling downhill on everyone else.
     
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    You keep posting this like it makes any sort of sense. When you stick with a bad coach, you get bad results. It's simple logic.
     
  36. zodiak

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    I agree firing Sparano now isn't an all together bad idea
    what I'm most curious about is what sort of owner is Ross

    I have heard little in regards to his expectations does he desire winning
    like a Jones or Snyder or is he like Wayne?
     
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    When you refuse to make the change that is so obvious to everyone else (firing Henning), where instead you decide throw somebody else under the bus (Henne) for your friend's failures it's an immediate red flag that you can't do the job anymore. Tony is way in over his head right now, and much like Old Yeller it's time to take him out to the back of the barn and put him out of his misery. Granted, Nolan wasn't spectacular in San Fran, but something's gotta give. Quite frankly, Tony has shown he can't handle the big boy decisions.
     
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    I like the Rob Ryan idea, but we would still need a kick *** OC.
     
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    Only one solid choice.......Herman Edwards as Head Coach !
     
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    Cowher is a pipe dream
    Gruden is over rated and media hype
    Martz is a stick in the mud

    Right now I can't say who MIA should bring in. But I would prefer a young mind, who is innovative and willing to adjust to things on the field and with the team.
     
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    Don't like Rob Ryan idea if he's anything like his brother. This hurts but the Jets are extremely talented, but also an extremely undicisiplined football team. They get penalties up the wazoo and anyone who watched Hard Knocks shouldn't be shocked they got shutout after their bye week. Those players were most likely thinking of everything but football for 2 weeks. The Jets should be a force to be wreckoned with and while it's hard to argue with there record they've really been more lucky than good lately (or their talent just finally shows up when it counts). I think Rexy is lucky to have such a talented team to cover up the "players coach" flaws he has.

    If the Jets ever really focus they'll contend for the SB, if not they'll get knocked out by a lesser, but better coached team, like New England.
     
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    If it was my money Ireland would be out the door before Sparano
     
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    Gruden sucks you're crazy if you want him in miami.I live here in the Tampa area they were calling for his head on talk radio.He took a Dungy team to the super bowl.By the time he left he had alot of players hating him.He tears down his players,and destroys there confidence.And what quarterback did he develop? Chris Sims?Brad Gradkowski?Josh Johnson?Brian Griese?Luke McNown?Tim Rattay?Rob Johnson?.He destroyed Mike Alstott in the end because he was popular and Gruden has to have the spot light not his players.No thanks we don't need another Saban
     
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    Billick and Gruden both coached at at least 4 colleges. I don't agree with moving a college coach to a NFL HC position, I think we learned from saban. But I really want Miami to offer Harbaugh the OC position.
     
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    Good question. I don't mind the idea of interviewing Nolan. He sure as hell improved this defense in one season. With a guy like Mike Nolan, an offensive guru would be a pretty stellar staff. Mike Martz and Mike Nolan together could be a pretty solid staff. Don't think you can go wrong with Harbuagh, but have to see how Michigan's situation plays out first.
     
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    :bobdole:

    Goddamn it. I thought we've been over this. Harbaugh is not leaving Stanford for an OC position in the NFL. If he comes to the Dolphins or any NFL team for that matter, it will be as a head coach.

    ---------- Post added at 07:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 PM ----------

    It's be done before. Needless to say, it didn't work.
     
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    Oh, sorry about that. I forgot that if YOU say so I should get a stone and chisel and carve it out. I simply don't agree with you.
     
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    I hope Mike Martz was a ****ing joke.
     
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    Right you are. Trying to think of any other offensive gurus,and my mind is running a blank.
     

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