Steven Jackson Anyone?

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  1. SF Dolphin Fan

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    I know it's still what 58 days until free agency and a lot of players won't be available who are now. But I am intrigued to see Steven Jackson on the list for now. Personally, I'd take Jackson over Reggie Bush and be happy about a combo of Jackson and Lamar Miller. My question, assuming Jackson gets to the open market, will he receive the same type of money as Bush? If so it's essentially trading Bush for Jackson money wise. I like that. Jackson is a power back something we need to balance out the running attack. Thomas hasn't shown much in his two years so it's hard to project him stepping up.

    I know there are bigger fish to fry than running back, but just wanted to put it out there for discussion.
     
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    I like it. I have always liked Jackson. I know he is nearing his end but the dude can play. He is that power back we need along with Miller. Maybe a Jackson, Bush, Miller backfield with Thomas getting the boot. That would be cool, not likley, but cool.
     
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    I'd love to have that beast. At the right price he'd be a great addition.

    I believe he's still got some gas in the tank

    And if u wanna see a back hit a hole hard man does he do it
     
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    Yeah I would give him 2-3 year contract... Cheap though
     
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    He should come cheaper than Bush and I think will fit perfectly next too Miller, He could also hopefully groom up Daniel Thomas since they are built similar.
     
  6. DolfanDuBbZ~

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    I would take Bradshaw over any of these older backs. History says, a back like Jackson, will hit the wall, sooner rather than later.

    Bradshaw at 26 is a far superior RB than the once superior S. Jackson.
     
  7. fakespike

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    This would be a really nice fit but I think he will want more than I'd be comfortable paying. Would complement Miller very nicely though and runs like a possessed beast: prototypical short yardage guy. A Jackson+Miller backfield is far superior to a Bush+Miller+Thomas combo IMHO.

    Bradshaw can't stay on the field, the guys a medical nightmare. i wouldn't touch him.
     
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    Steven Jackson will be 30 in a few months. Damn near 2400 carries on those tires.

    While Bradshaw does have issues staying healthy. I still go with the younger player, especially at RB.
     
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    I would for sure as a complimentary back and I'm not sure Jax thinks he's a complementary guy. He just gets injuried to often to be the 20 touch back he once was. If he's willing to accept a timeshare role he'd be perfect fit next to Miller
     
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    True on Bradshaw. But I would still take the 26yr old.

    A 30yr old RB, with almost 2400 carries, says the wall isn't to far off in the near future. By NFL standards.
     
  11. fakespike

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    i agree but we dont have to fill every single hole with a long term solution. i just think its a good skill set complement to Miller, and could help in Tannehill's development by extending a few drives over the course of the year by converting on 3rd and shorts. i would certainly not break the bank on him or give him anymore than a 2 yr deal, maybe optioned 3rd yr, dont get me wrong. the redzone channel or highlights ive seen of him from 2012 make it clear: he would vastly improve our running game in the short term.
     
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    This is one of those threads that opens my eyes to the evaluation skills of people on this message board... Steven Jackson was great once, but he's done... DONE... did anyone who is commenting on him actually watch him this season?

    He may be good for 5-8 carries/game maximum, that's it. He'll get a 2 year deal worth $5mil max.
     
  13. arammell

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    He's run for over 1000 yards every year since 2005 including last year. He's winding down and won't be an every down back but he's not done.
     
  14. fakespike

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    this guy?
    [video=youtube;bIhuYwawiUA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bIhuYwawiUA[/video]

    only worth 5 carries a game?
     
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    hell yes! Jax & Miller could "thunder & lightning" our WCO next season… I say buy a year, may get a bonus year if he don't blow out.
     
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    I loved watching him play over his career, but he looks NOTICEABLY slower. That video only hammers my point home... some decent runs, but I'd say only 1, the cut back, was the only impressive one.

    If he's getting more than 8 carries/game then that means we are in serious need of explosion and speed at the RB position and Lamar Miller will have been a bust.

    I'd be all for getting him, but as a secondary, 6-10 touches a game, and at a very cheap contract. He's probably only going to sign with a contender, anyways.
     
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    im by no means a steven jackson evangelist here or anything, yea he would be a good 8-10 carry/game alternate to Milller if he came cheap. and to say hes noticeably slower? than what? 2008 Steven Jackson? Of course. Slower than Daniel Thomas? That im not sure about. and the whole point of bringing SJ in would be to help our short yardage problem from last year, we wouldnt need him to be the home run guy.

    I agree with the most important part: hes not coming here anyway
     
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    I just don't believe in signing 30 yr old RB's. Especially downhill bruising type backs. The wear and tear he has sustained to date, isn't something I would invest in.
     
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    I think the staff is fully ready to go forward with Miller as the primary back. I expect Marcus Thigpen to be in the mix, as well as Jonas Gray for a potential increase in carries. Either that or a FA running will be brought in cheap or a running back drafted late in the draft.




    Lamar Miller - RB - Dolphins

    According to the Miami Herald, the Dolphins "would be fine" leaning on 2012 fourth-round pick Lamar Miller as their lead runner in 2013.

    The Dolphins haven't ruled out re-signing Reggie Bush, but they'd only entertain it if his asking price dropped dramatically. The Herald's Barry Jackson suspects the Fins might make a "cheap addition" to battle Daniel Thomas for the backup role. Jonas Gray, a power back out of Notre Dame who spent 2012 on PUP, is another interesting prospect, potentially capable of upgrading on Thomas as a short-yardage specialist. Miller's fantasy stock is looking up for 2013.


    Source: Miami Herald
    Jan 29 - 3:32 PM














    Lamar Miller - RB - Dolphins

    The Dolphins think Lamar Miller can be better than Reggie Bush, whom they are not expected to re-sign this offseason.

    Miller is bigger -- 5-foot-11 and 212 pounds -- and faster than Bush is, while he's also considerably cheaper. Miller seems to fit Joe Philbin's offense better, too, as a running back who hits the right hole at the right time. Bush was more of an innovator and creator out of the backfield. Miller averaged five yards-per-carry on 51 totes as a rookie.


    Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
    Jan 28 - 6:40 PM


    The truth is, running backs are a dime in a dozen and Lamar Miller showed FAR enough ability this season to make him the clear-cut starting back heading into training camp 2013.

    There is money to be spent upgrading our tight ends, receivers, offensive line, pass rushing, cornerback and safety.

    Highly unlikely, in my opinion, that Miami spends more than $1 million - $2 million on a free agent running back.
     
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    How is it that big of an investment to go 2 years on a rb that has gone over 1000 yards 8 years in a row?
     
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    I really appreciate what Steven Jackson brings to the table, but he's considering retirement and I'm not sure we want to take a bite of a guy with that kind of mileage who has to be convinced out of retiring.

    Who I really want, is Mike Goodson from the Oakland Raiders. One of the NFL's best kept secrets. Won't be expensive, but there may also be more of a market for him than you'd think. I won't be the only one that has noticed him develop.

    Some will suggest there's bad blood between he and Mike Sherman. That really isn't the case. The relationship didn't go as well as the two had hoped in 2008 but they've never been on bad terms and ultimately when Goodson left for the NFL early rather than stay another year with Sherman at Texas A&M, it was because of family financial problems. His dad had just got thrown in jail and he needed to earn money for his family.
     
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    How much would you pay a 30 yr old w/ almost 2400 carries?
     
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    I guess what ever social security would pay should be fair.
     
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    There is a lot of wear and tear on Jackson. Fisher loved him (his type of RB - think Eddie George) so I think he'll be back with the Rams even though they voided the final year of his deal near the beginning of the season.
     
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    not to nit-pick but it's only about 33 days till free agency, not including the three day negotiating period that begins March 9th.
     
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    I like him, but like a lot of other people, I fear that he will hit the wall soon, then you're stuck with him.
     
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    s jax has more groin issues than john mayer...
     
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    I agree!!! We should instead go for a young developing RB like Goodson, who happens to be a good receiving back and mix him with Miller, Gray and Thomas.
     
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    +1 because that's actually pretty funny
     
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    .........in a HeartBeat!!!!! Big/Powerful back that sees the hole/crease,and hits it like a freight train.Tired of watching ALL of those yards,that Reggie leaves on the field because of his dancing. If available,no question I'd "LOVE" this move!!!!!
     

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