Still want these players? (ESPN's Top 8 Overrated Players)

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  1. 7Kit

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    Just goes to show that going to the pro bowl isn't what it's cracked up to be. Only 1 Giant went and why is that?
     
  3. 7Kit

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    the pro bowl really is useless. half the guys who get in are only there because the top 2 choices at that position decided to go ahead and skip it...
     
  4. RHoffman

    RHoffman DOB: Get my Ring!

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    Never wanted Derek Anderson...please no.
     
  5. I am Bane

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    i was liek oooooh this would be fun..... but it thought it was college for the draft :(

    but anywhoo.... Syemour shouldnt be there, give the guy a break after the injury and trying to come back... seriously

    Shockey, i never wanted anyways... Anderson, finally somethingt o show the inconsistancies in him that Definitely should show he is not worth the #1 #3 round picks we would have to give for him. would you want Rex Grossman???
     
  6. 7Kit

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    no i hate rex grossman. . .u should never bring in a guy w/ a history of being a mentally weak. rex grossman has the same mental stability and fortitude as dirk nowitzki in the NBA. rex is a basket case who gets rattled easily. i use to think Eli was the same way, til he proved me wrong in this last playoff run. just say no to rex.
     
  7. Dors156

    Dors156 He's Backkkkk

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    Yea glad to see Anderson on that list, I hope everyone hops off that bandwagon soon. Starting to get annoying:lol:
     
  8. #1dolphinsfan

    #1dolphinsfan Perennial All-Pro

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    I think Derek Anderson Is the MOST OVERRATED player in those 8
     
  9. SarahAnn

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    ESPN calling patriot players overrated? Hell has officially frozen over.
     
  10. TotoreMexico

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    Anderson overrated?

    Shocking...
     
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    I think ESPN is over-rated...but hey thats just me.
     
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    Dors156 He's Backkkkk

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    Yeah it has definately frozen over:lol:
     
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    CharlestonPhan just a little cattywampus

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    i think the list should have included Joey Porter...
     
  14. Breed

    Breed Pro Bowler

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    I've been advocating Anderson for a while now, and I never once thought he played at a Pro Bowl level in '07. This still doesn't change the fact that he was one of the better young quarterbacks in the game last year....
     
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    Good article.

    I like KC Joyner. He was one of the first people to point out how ineffective Chambers was, and usually his stat matrix analysis is spot on.

    Seymour has always had a break, so this season he doesn't just get a free pass because he was injured. The fact that he plays along side Vince Wilfork and has smart linebackers on his backside also have to help his reputation.
     
  16. I am Bane

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    really? i thought he palyed a pretty solid second half of the season, especially with not much help up front on the d-line. offense linemen were getting to our backers often this year.
     
  17. Breed

    Breed Pro Bowler

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    "...but the sum of Anderson's accomplishments should not have equaled a trip to Honolulu."

    Talk about stating the obvious, not sure how that translates to him being overrated though.
     
  18. I am Bane

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    i never watch or follow pro bowl, means nothing. political at times (not as bad as NBA and MLB though)... but it just is whatever to me!!!
     
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    The thing about Anderson is he's a young qb that led a good offense, the reason he is overrated is he turned around that whole organization basically and made there team relevent, doing that while being 24 no matter what your numbers look like will have people talking about you. The thing that i personally think makes Anderson overrated as a player is the talent he has on offense. He has such a big margin of error when he throws to guys like winslow and edwards, He doesnt need to throw with great accuracy b/c great athletes who happen to be 6'4 or taller can adjust and make great plays on the ball. He isn't and overly accurate qb and in other offenses alot of those throws he gets bailed out in will turn into ints.
     
  20. Breed

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    I always love hearing how "Derek Anderson had a great OL" or how anyone could've put up points with that much talent.

    Well Charlie Frye got sacked 5 times in just 15 drop backs behind this great OL. Derek Anderson was sacked 14 times the entire season, in 541 drop backs. I guess these same people forget, Frye had most of these same weapons to work with last year, and they still had one of the worst offenses in the NFL.
     
  21. brandon1986

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    pretty good list
    i only disagree with anderson i think he is a good young qb
     
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    Kyle Vanden Bosch is not overrated.
     
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    brandon1986 this is the dolphins time

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    i agree i like vanden bosch very much
     
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    While I agree he is a good young qb I dont disagree with his inclusion on the list. He certainly is no where near as good as the hype would have you believe.
     
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    brandon1986 this is the dolphins time

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    i didnt like him just based on this years performance, i liked what i saw from him in 06 when he played the ravens

    i agree he didnt belong in the pro bowl but i dont think anyone can judge him yet
     
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    KC has done impressive things with his metrics, but they don't always tell how good a player is. There are other ways to judge a player beyond yards per catch. Or types of sacks???? A sack is a sack. A player either gets it done after the ball is snapped or not.

    Players are only overrated because ESPN has ten writers writing articles about them in the first place.

    Take Derek Anderson for instance, he became over written about. Overrated? No one said he's peyton manning. He did however win a lot of games as teh qb of a browns franchise that has been terrible for a decade, all while being in his first year. He had lots of interest because it was an unlikey situation considering many qb's before him tried and failed miserably. Weapons around him or not he did a good job for the browns, and threw several TD's. Something Clev. fans haven't seen in a long time.

    Are there better qb's out there? Absolutely. However its a heck of a first year at a position where so many others generally fail first time out. So give DA credit where credit is due. He got the job done, in an unlikly circumstance.

    Its funny how espn calls him overrated when their the ones who lifted him higher than what he accomplished in the first place. But that should not fool anyone thinking he's better than what he was. One season, first year qb who played well in some areas and had trouble in others.

    Joyner, your micromanagement stats is not what makes a football player, it goes beyond stats, maybe ask someone like Csonka about stats defining a football player and their value, bet you'll get a laugh.
     
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    After Spygate they are desperately trying to change their name back from being Entertainment, Sports & Patriots Network to just plain ol Entertainment Sports Programming Network
     
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    Try all they want, it aint happening.
     
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    I dont understand what the difference is if its a coverage sack or regular sack in the end it is a sack, you still have to make the play. They dont say well you know some of those interceptions were tipped balls or off the receivers hands thats why it was a interception or that you catch interceptions off a tip ball, who the hell cares, the guy made the play. If we start taking the shine off some the players stats than nobody will have good stats. Its part of the game
     
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    Joey didn't go to the Pro Bowl....

    kid,lay off the :beer1:.....
     
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    How could you put Donald Driver on that list? I mean, you've got to be kidding me. If you want to put Anderson on that list, so be it. Clark and Shockey? Understandable... Seymour and Vrabel, fine by me however I find it ironic how you're turning on your team now that they're cheaters since 2000... Shaun Rodgers? That's okay too. But to put Donald Driver on that list? You have got to be kidding me...

    Donald Driver is the man that Brett Favre goes to when he's in need of a big play. You always see Driver leading the team in yardage each game, but when it comes down to the red zone, Favre ignores Driver and instantly looks off of Jennings. Notice how normally Jennings had one or two catches it seems, but one is always a TD? Personally I think Jennings is the overrated WR, much more than Driver.

    Also, he thinks Vanden Bosch is overrated? Give me a break, Joyner... Get a clue!
     
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    The difference? Nothing... it's just a way for ESPN to hate on players.. It's like when people complain about Brady running the shotgun 5 yards from the endzone and throws a touchdown... So what? It's still a TD... I see 6 points on the board, there aren't any handicap points in football..
     
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    His numbers are nice for a LB, and the list is focusing on overrated, so if we try to figure how could Joey Porter look in a contending defense, his numbers should be better, something almost worth of his payment.
     
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    THANK YOU! getting Anderson would be horrible. he is WAY overrated. I hate everyones man crushes on him.
     
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    ....and "Shockeying" too


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  36. dolpns13

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    Driver should not be anywhere near this list. he has been playing at an elite level consistently ever since he got to GB...This is laughable at best..

    Vandenbosch or Clark also sjouldnt be on the list either IMO

    Shockey is just a loud mouth but I dont think he is overrated. He just confuses the hell out of Eli.

    DA.. The jury is out on him. It is too early to call him overrated or the next coming of Bernie Cosar in Cleveland..

    The rest, Vrabel, Seymor, Rogers, Vrabel being the top dog are highly overrated. Id say Vrabel is one of the most overrated players in the league
     
  37. CharlestonPhan

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    i watched every Miami Dolphin game this season, and in all but a few, at some point in the second half the announcers would say, "we haven't called Joey Porter's name much today."

    for the money he was paid, we saw little to no dividends paid. which is probably why Pittsburgh was glad to see him go.
     
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    i know he didn't go to the Pro Bowl, but any list of overrated (and/or overpaid) players has to include him.

    bbut thanks for calling me kid! nobody has done that in quite awhile! :up:
     
  39. dolpns13

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    Im not saying he was overpaid because I think he was but the second half of the season during and after the Pitt game you have to admit he played very well and made alot of plays... Hopefully it will continue into 08 and we can produce to his contract.
     
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    oh yeah donald drive should not be on there either, driver is a great receiver
     

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