Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DolfanISS, Mar 10, 2018.
That’s awesome bro. Always respected him as a fighter
Nah just an interesting situation to think about. Would this mean a total rebuild for us? Would we really just plan on starting a rookie? How long would they give Gase to rebuild? And how would RT do in another scenario.
I would be REALLY surprised if this is the plan.
The FO will never allow this because if McCarron outplays Ryan, then there will be controversy, and Miami won't want that kind of drama after the 2017 season.
That and we can't afford mccarron.
They want a king ransom for McCarron and he wants a big $ contract. I would rather sign Mike Glennon as the back up if the price is right. After the Bears over paid Glennon last year the market on him might be more reasonable this year. Of course that's if Miami isn't planning on drafting a qb on day one or two. They would kick themselves if they sign a qb and one of the top qb's fall to 11 in the draft, so it's likely best to wait to see how the draft plays out and by then most of the decent free agent qb's will be gone.
McCarron is a free agent.
But we still can’t afford him. And he wants a starting job.
I have a yacht in Arkansas to sell you as well.
AJ McCarron probably couldn't outplay a traffic cone.
Glennon oh please, scott Mitchell 2.0
If you were Denver would you do it? Tannehill plus 11 for 5?
Glennon, like Mitchell would be a decent backup qb. Plus his playing style is very similar to Tannehill's.
If he was never injured yes. I wouldn’t risk losing out on the top QBs just to see if he was going to be able to play a full season again.
The fact that we can only get a 4th for Landry and a 4th for Jay, makes it hard to believe that EVEN if this were a possibility, this FO can pull a trade like this off. I can’t imagine a serviceable QB like 17 coming off injury would move the needle that much.
Plus, who’s to say one of these QBs isn’t going to be there at 11?
No backsies. You said once that you are an NFL fan first and foremost and if Tannehill leaves you will follow his team.
In what universe is McCarron even close to competing with Tannehill? This is absurd talk.
Maybe....if Suh came with him....and James in there somewhere as well.
Call it the Vance Joseph effect!
Plenty of QBs are "unathletic" and are experts moving around in the pocket. Mayfield has a sixth sense when he's back in the pocket and can sense pressure while simultaneously looking downfield for targets. He also has an above average arm. Throws it with plenty of zip for the NFL.
Jamarcus Russell was 6'6 and could rip it.
Mayfield also has 1,000 career rushing yards...unathletic?
I thought you were arguing he’s prototype?
Have you ever seen Oklahoma play? You could run for a thousand there. You’re a millennial, right? You’re young enough to do it. Did you see him run? Do you think he’s turning the corner at the NFL level?
He’s got that bro feeling though. I could see management going for that. They love them some bros.
Mayfield does not look good under pressure!!
Ahh yes, because a QB who ran in the 4.8's has never been able to rush for a single yard in the NFL. And there's never been a "bro" to succeed in the NFL either!
You also said Mayfield lacks "prototypical everything." I said his arm strength and pocket feel fits the NFL prototype. So from that you assume I'm arguing the entire prospect of Baker is prototype? Nice.
What is “prototype”?
Brady was fat and out of shape entering his draft, also with concerns about his arm strength, and he ran like a 5.3 40.
One could say Dan Marino was a “bro.”
Drew Brees? Short, un athletic, weak arm.
You know who was prototypical? JaMarcus Russell. Josh Freeman. Landry Jones.
I’m not saying Mayfield will certainly become one of those great QBs mentioned above, but don’t act like “prototype” is a pre-requisite to being a good QB
Idk man, that’s a tight race between Allen and Mayfield
Watched Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield last night... and that rating does definitely tell the truth with Rosen from what I watched. Clean pocket, he’s golden, under pressure, he throws off his back foot and good luck where it goes. Darnold can at least scramble out of it, but he’s inconsistent... Mayfield, out of those 3, was really the only one that I saw that could throw under pressure.... why? Because he was constantly moving, I wouldn’t necessarily call Mayfield a pocket QB, as he’s constantly moving and twitching. The guy is a gamer. He deliverered some balls in that OSU game & Texas Tech that made me jump out of my seat and go “how the hell did he thread that? That’s an NFL throw.” So many Favre mannerisms with Mayfield, not even funny.
Thx for above
You nailed it. The Ohio State game was as impressive performance by a college QB I’ve seen in a while. Mayfield throws WR’s open and hits them in stride. So rare for a college QB.
Is that more egregious than a bunch of AHs rooting for Tannehill to fail?
of course not. Anybody who is a strictly a player's fan or roots against Dolphins players is not a Dolphins fan in my opinion.
McCarron - 77 TD's, 15 Ints, 9000 yards. Offensive Player of the Game in National championship game.
Tannehill - 42 TD's. 21 Ints, 5400 yards.
Yea - because that didnt work in 1983
At this point given all the moves to gut the team of talent, I wouldn't care. It seems they are in rebuild mode now. Might as well trade a 30 year old starting QB coming off major knee injury for a chance to draft a young QB with upside. But as is the Dolphin way, that QB will likely be a bust and the Broncos would ride Tannehill to a superbowl or something...
I'm basing my opinion of McCarron on his most recent game reps. Only about a dozen pass attempts in 2017, but he looked like Uncle Rico on most of them. Should I blame Lazor?
I don't care what he did at Bama. The Crimson Tide won how many games with Jalen freaking Hurts starting at QB? Nick Saban may be a dreadful human being, but he's a hell of a football coach.
College stats matter right now?
We do realize that Tannehill hasn't played a game for almost 2 full seasons right - this guy is a total wild card. If we can get anything in return I say let's replace the QB as well.
Agreed. At this point, you pretty much have to trade Tannehill and go get the rookie QB to take his lumps while the roster gets retooled. I’d say rebuilt, but we know T-Baum is just going to **** it up again.
If you're not trading Tannehill, none of what's going on makes sense. None.
I feel like I’m in the ****ing twilight zone. We have posters seriously advocating signing the guy who couldn’t beat out Andy ducking Dalton as our starting QB. Unbelievable. It’s like the most intense case of mass Stockholm syndrome I’ve ever seen.
Exactly, it's not about Tannehill. The way things look like now, Ryan Tannehill will be starting for another team in 2018. It's about AJ McCarron, and he looked like hot garbage the last time I watched him play football. If we're bringing in a new starting QB, let's set the bar higher than that.