The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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  1. FinfanInBuffalo

    FinfanInBuffalo Perennial All-Pro Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Here is a post of mine from before the start of the 2004 season:


    10 years later and we have a new GM, a new OC, blew up the OL, some fans that don't like the QB, and the F'n Patriots still own the division.

    Crap......
     
  2. SSnowman

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    Dolphins gonna dolphin.
     
  3. J. David Wannyheimer

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    I still think 2004 was a pretty good year for the Dolphins. We lost a lot of games, but we also rid ourselves of the Wannstache.
     
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    Difference is Tannehill is better then Fiedler and Lazor has already proven to me that he will be a good play caller. He creates pitch and catch opportunities for our offense, creates mismatches with motion, neutralizes the pass rush with quick releases and up tempo offense to wear down the defense
     
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    [video]http://www.vevo.com/watch/cinderella/the-more-things-change/USIV30400359[/video]

    Cinderella!
     
  6. oasis

    oasis Lost in the fog

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    Dolphins fans did horrible, annoying things in our past lives.
     
  7. foozool13

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    Nothing is worse than passing on Brees. EPIC FAIL.
     
  8. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Passing on him twice is worse.
     
  9. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Unfortunately that led to Saban, Cameron, and Sparano.

    Wannstedt is the second winningest coach in team history. Sad but true.
     
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    Isn't that the year that Wayne chose Mueller over Ted Thompson?
     
  11. J. David Wannyheimer

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    I think so? But both Wanny and Saban had final say on personnel, so it's tough for me to blame anyone else for those awful drafts.

    It's funny, but I actually think Nick Saban was worse than Cam Cameron. Cam Cameron was an AWFUL coach, but at least he didn't cripple the team long-term with the worst personnel decisions imaginable. Nick Saban's two garbage drafts and terrible quarterback decisions were far more disastrous, IMO.
     
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    I thought Saban was eclipsed only by the Trifecta when you assess damage done to the franchise. Hell of a college coach. Nothing more.
     
  13. J. David Wannyheimer

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    The trifecta ****ed up badly by not drafting Matt Ryan (sorry, Vaark), but Saban blew it with Brees and Aaron Rodgers.

    Blame the team doctors, though. :lol:
     
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    With all due respect to the OP....Wannstedt inherited a playoff team (3 years running) and ran it into the ground...just as he destroyed the Bears...so he gets no respect from me.

    Jay Fiedler was a caretaker riding a top 5 defense and solid running game....he would lose games that really mattered.

    I like our current situation much better.
     
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    The great thing about this considering we get the Patriots week 1, there is still more to this offense Miami has still not shown, so the Pats will not be able to figure out just from pre-season film, or again signing a cut Miami Dolphin, add to that, Miami players are getting more and more used to their up tempo Offense in the Miami sun.

    If what happened in the 1st half of game 1 in NE, happens again in Miami, have a feeling they will not be able to come back as easy in the 2nd half, even if the Refs again decide to help out.
     
  16. FinfanInBuffalo

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    No argument about Wannstedt and personnel decisions but he did win more games than JJ. He should never had personnel responsibility. I really think 2002 was the year until Fiedler got hurt. Ray Lucas killed that season.

    I will never forgive JJ for screwing over Marino and disrespecting Shula. Despite the reputation for being a personnel wiz, JJ left the team devoid of talent on offense. JJ and Saban are my least favorite Dolphin HCs of all time. Partly because of the hoopla surrounding them, and partly for how they screwed the team over.
     
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    I liked Jimmy Johnson very much and I think he knew how to draft and had real football knowledge but he set a 3 year timetable on himself. And we all thought that made sense. In retrospect, you look back and years turn into decades, then extending a GOOD coach past his 3rd year doesn't seem so terrible.

    You need a solid foundation, a good owner and great coaches, and someone who knows how to draft, including drafting a quarterback.

    We're so used to lowering the bar for this team. We are. We'll say,.. ok that's a nice player. We never ask ourselves, are we getting a great player? Do we want pro bowl players? These scouts get all excited over acorns...fine, but if you're not hitting on the top rounds and getting some playmakers, and you're not retaining talent on your team when FA arrives, then you're screwed. That's what managing a football team is about.
     
  18. J. David Wannyheimer

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    I find it hard to hate Jimmy Johnson.

    Although I despise the way he treated Marino and the cruddy offensive talent he left on his way out, at least he drafted some great defensive players. I appreciate the fact that when his heart wasn't in it anymore, he walked away. I don't blame him for coming back after Wayne begged him to reconsider. Wayne kinda has that effect on people.

    But what Wannstedt did to Marino was worse, he drafted worse players, he traded away future draft picks for garbage, and he left the team in cap hell.

    I don't blame JJ for recommending Wanny to Wayne. Recommending your friend/lieutenant to succeed you on the way out is just good manners. I blame Wayne for hiring him.
     
  19. NO WAKE ZONE

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    What did we trade for David Boston? Or was he picked up in fa
     
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    ---------- Post added at 01:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:45 AM ----------

    I think we got him for a low pick a year after flaming out in SD as a huge free agent pickup.
     
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    I'm getting sick to my stomach
     

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