The Official Miami Heat March to the Lottery Thread.

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  1. Section126

    Section126 FinHeaven VIP

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    I told you all so...that if I didn't start the thread..that we were screwed...

    So now..we set on our march to Derek Rose and then becoming CONTENDERS NEXT YEAR. You heard right. We (The Miami Heat) are like cockroaches. You can't get rid of us. We will be right back in the hunt in the 08'-09' season.
     
  2. Enforcerfin33

    Enforcerfin33 Los Lonely Boys the Return....

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    geez.....lol...shoulda seen this thread coming.
     
  3. marke27

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    well my sonics will put up a good fight with your heat for worst record in the nba
     
  4. phinphan896

    phinphan896 Pro Bowler

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    well, looks like michael beasley is coming our way
     
  5. Amars

    Amars Championship or nothing.

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    :lol:
     
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    Even with a productive Shaq, we still suck.

    Derrick Rose and Wade. I can't wait.
     
  7. King Felix

    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    i never thought i could say this..but fridays game is looking like a for sure win for portland
     
  8. Enforcerfin33

    Enforcerfin33 Los Lonely Boys the Return....

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    Nice to see we can make the struggling Bulls look good...
     
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    wpgfishfan Pro Bowler

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    What a joke. We got rid of almost every supporting cast member from the championship team. You reap what you sow.
     
  11. Fresh

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    I want to go 8-74.
     
  12. Section126

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    YESSSSS...KING is in da house.
     
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    not trying to pour salt in the wounds here...but why are you guys so bad this year? You still got Wade, Shaq, Haslem, Zo, Williams...I don't really get it.
     
  14. Amars

    Amars Championship or nothing.

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    :fogey:
     
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    Enforcerfin33 Los Lonely Boys the Return....

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    Well, first off Zo's hurt, prob. done for good, Shaq has been hurt, and has had prob. no, it is the worst yr of his career, Wade has been fighting injuries, Same with Williams, so that leaves Haslem. So its really not that hard to see why we are doing so bad. Plus no Walker, who IMO is better then Davis, personal opinion though. Davis is a good scorer, but other then that. Cook was a terrible pick IMO. And I'm still waiting for Wright to explode like so many said he would.
     
  16. DuderinoN703

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    Outside of Wade, who of those players is worth a damn?
     
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    DuderinoN703 I can get you a toe Finheaven VIP Donator

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    :lol:
     
  18. Enforcerfin33

    Enforcerfin33 Los Lonely Boys the Return....

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    Hey dont laugh your teams getting there..:up:
     
  19. Section126

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    Who is "Old" on the team. I'll Help you out: SHAQ is..and is still a top 5 center...Jay-Will is 32 and will be gone. That is it.

    The rest of the team is relatively young. Injuries finally caught up to us and teams ran-sacking us in the offseason as well.

    The team is in a good situation for a very quick turn-around.

    At least KNOW about the team before you comment Amars.
     
  20. Section126

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    WHAT?

    He has been a GREAT pick. He is only 20 years old and has played very well with minutes.

    he will be a contributor for a long time.

    The Nucleus is now:

    Haslem, Wade, Cook, Wright, SHAQ. Davis, Williams, are cap space fodder...Blount is a guy we need to trade for more cap space.

    Quinn is a decent backup..nothing more.
     
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    So says the guy with the oldest team in the NBA. :lol:
     
  22. Fresh

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    Which was somewhat of the right thing to do since most of those players were getting up there in the age department. The problem is that replacing those guys with upgrades failed. Honestly, the only player that I'm upset we let go is James Posey. I don't give a rat's *** about Jason Kapono and that horrific contract he received. Definitely could care less about Gary Payton, Antoine Walker, Michael Doleac, Derek Anderson, etc. This team simply failed to upgrade when an upgrade was BEYOND necessary.

    I don't blame Pat Riley this year, however. The Ricky Davis trade was out of desperation, because he tried his *** off this offseason to acquire players like Mo Williams, Charlie Bell, Gerald Wallace, etc. It just didn't happen. I blame him for the overall outcome, though. There's no reason we should of left that 2006-2007 team exactly the same. "Dorell Wright is like our offseason acquisition" -- that was a bunch of bull****, especially since Riley benches the kid for apparently no reason at all. THAT is what screwed this franchise and set us back.........the 2006-2007 summer. Even if you when a championship, you have to make some changes because other teams are focusing their summers on becoming better than you.

    In the long run, keeping Udonis Haslem is actually going to hurt Miami.

    I know a lot of people may read that in awe, but he was a DEAL BREAKER in many, many potential trades. From what Ira emailed me in response back in the summer, we could of had Mo Williams in a sign-and-trade....as well as possibly Bibby AND Artest in a deal but Riley wouldn't do it because Haslem was a necessity in Sac's proposal.
     
  23. Amars

    Amars Championship or nothing.

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    you can add

    Haslem -28 yrs old
    Zo - 96 yrs old

    you guys are like 5th oldest team in the league.
     
  24. Section126

    Section126 FinHeaven VIP

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    Haslem is 27. 27 is not old. Last I checked...that is young.

    Zo is retired.

    Next?

    5th oldest? LOL!
     
  25. Vertical Limit

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    Haslem is at best a 4th option on any other team, preferrably a 5th. In this team, he has like the 3rd most FG attempts per game.

    Hell, there are people on realgm that beleive Shaq is a 3rd option at best, preferrably a 4th option now at this stage of his career.

    Nothing that a Derrick Rose can't fix for this team.

    Rose + Wade can quickly turn into the next Scottie and Michael. Maybe not as dominating, but that's a pretty damn good duo.

    We have to shut down Wade eventually this season. We're wearing him out, and all this losing can really get into your head. It's pretty much uncontrollable what Wade is going through, not even 100% still and still playing at a high level, yet the team is becoming one of the worst teams put together in franchise history.
     
  26. Ferretsquig

    Ferretsquig Perennial All-Pro

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    This team is a pathetic collection of misfits whose play borders on the unwatchable. Davis was a horrible acquisition, made worse by the fact that Riley sacrificed a future pick to get him. Williams has been done for a while now. He can still do well as a backup somewhere if hes not asked to play major minutes but his knees were shot 3 years ago. 'Zo is long gone, and is probably happy that he bowed out when he did. The only game I've seen so far this season that was mildly interesting was when the backups + Haslem gave Dallas all they could handle for 40 minutes. When the starters are in the defense is just atrocious.

    I can't say that I have much hope for this team in the future. Riley will have to have another Wade type hit in the draft in order to resurrect this franchise. If he doesn't get lucky again why would Wade bother to stick around?
     
  27. King Felix

    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    blazers heat on espn right now
     
  28. Amars

    Amars Championship or nothing.

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    Last time I check Zo is still on the roster.
     
  29. Amars

    Amars Championship or nothing.

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    Avg age of the Heat 27.3

    Avg age of the Suns 28.7

    Yes the Heat are:wheels:
     
  30. King Felix

    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    the heat arent that old. just shaq, and jwill...neither are in the future..
     
  31. Alex44

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    So....you're 29. What does that make you? Ancient? :lol:
     
  32. Amars

    Amars Championship or nothing.

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    Hell ya im old. But the sex is great.
     
  33. Dolphin1184

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    Wow, the Heat are playing like the Heat of old tonight.
     
  34. Section126

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    Zo is retired.
     
  35. Section126

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    So you missed the Phoenix game? That was when Riley actually used his head and used the strength of this team.
     
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    That is a pretty stupid comment.

    You are counting a retired ZO in there. Blount won't be here much longer either. The nucleus of this team is all under 27. Next season after a lottery pick, they will be among the youngest teams in the league.

    You drop a retired ZO and Blount and Williams who will be gone soon..the heat will be younger than the Fakers.
     
  37. Dolphin1184

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    And, of course, we're trailing again.
     
  38. King Felix

    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    roy and wade playing great tongiht
     
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    No he's not. The double teams are affecting Wade again tonight.
     
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    Wade ended up with a great game in the boxscore...so did SHAQ..but nobody else got in the act...the story of the season.
     
  41. King Felix

    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    wade? his third quarter was amazing, he needed to take over the fourth too..he didnt have the ball enough in the fourth
     
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    I know you saw him pour in 37 points on 50% shooting..that is all fine and all...

    But he couldn't defeat the double teams again tonight..because nobody could hit a shot.

    Tonight was SHAQ and Wade vs. a nice young team in the Trailblazers..not enough. But at least you saw what I was talking baout...how one GUY...JUST ONE..and we are back to the top of the east...

    We need to hit that lottery BAD.

    I am dead serious...Rose + a nice FA pickup...we could win it all next year.
     
  43. Section126

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    BTW King Felix, I am pretty good are forecasting the season huh? If you remembered,...I had the Blazers as the 8th seed in the west this year..and the 6th seed with oden.

    I like this team...I told you so last year.
     
  44. King Felix

    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    i talked to king a little bit about rose and wade..that would be siiiiiiiick. like you were talking about getting brand as well...if that happened next year would be final contenders all over again...i like cook he had a much better game last time against portland.
     
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    King Felix live it up have no worries

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    yeah i had 8th seed with oden. without i didnt really predict much, was more hoping for d-rose..the thing i love about the blazers is the chemistry and bench...oh and broy
     
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    They tried to comeback at the end. Just didnt happen.
     
  47. Fresh

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    The latest Chad Ford rumor:

    Ricky Davis, J-Will, & Dorell for Wally & Earl Watson.

    Yeah, I'd probably kill myself.

    Seattle gets 2 expirings, Miami gets two contracts that expire after 2008-2009. On top of that, Seattle gets Dorell Wright and Miami fails to receive any young talent in return. Throw Miami a bone like Delonte West and maybe it's worthy of consideration.

    The only positive I see with that is that Pat Riley is obviously linked to Elton Brand. The idea presented to me by Ira when I emailed him about it is that Miami can't sign Brand outright, but Wally & Earl will have HUGE expirings in 2008-2009, so a sign-and-trade for Brand could possibly work out since LAC may be pushing towards the rebuilding process.

    In that sense, we'd still have our mid-level.

    Hypothetically speaking (which probably has a 2% chance of happening),

    G - Derrick Rose
    G - Dwyane Wade
    F - ?
    F - Elton Brand
    C - Shaquille O'Neal

    If Boston wins the title, maybe Posey opts out. :up::up::up:

    Or, maybe we get the #1 pick and land Michael Beasley.
     
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    On a side note,

    Why do I see Riley dealing our potential #1-5 pick for a veteran, ala Boston's Ray Allen trade? I just see it happening because Riley is a stubborn ***** who lacks the patience as he knows Shaq's window is closing (if it didn't already close). See, for Boston I thought it was a fine trade even without the later KG addition because there wasn't a single player left on the board aside from Brewer (no, I do not like Jeff Green) worthy of the #5 selection. But for Miami, we're probably going to get around the #5 pick at the very worst.

    I see a ton of players in this draft with top 5 potential:

    -Michael Beasley
    -Derrick Rose
    -Eric Gordon
    -DeAndre Jordan
    -Jerryd Bayless
    -Donte Greene
    -O.J. Mayo (who will probably go around 8-10, but should be higher)
     
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    I told you all that Smush Parker would suck and Jason Williams was goign to have a bad year, turnover prone as he is.
     
  50. Ferretsquig

    Ferretsquig Perennial All-Pro

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    Seems I've heard that one before. Please do elaborate. If you're going to be self aggrandizing at least have a certain measure of truth in your proclamations.
     

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