this team could very easily be 0-9

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  1. CorduroyG

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    and im not exaggerating at all.

    just look at the 4 wins

    san diego - their kicker (who theyve since cut) missed 2 fg's, including the game winner from 44 yards

    tennessee - mariota was out, cassel was god awful, and still barely won. if mariota plays we 100% lose that game

    atlanta - needed a 2nd half comeback from 17 down to win

    jets - needed a 4th qtr comeback from 14 down to win

    its a miracle theyve won 4 games. ill give them credit for the 2 comeback wins, but realistically this is a 2-7 team. i actually wish we were 2-7, then we could root for a complete tank and get a top 5 pick. we'll probably beat tampa and a couple other home games and finish 6-10 or 7-9 and be in no man's land again.
     
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    I mean a win is a win. Miami Hurricanes could easily be 5-4.

    Everybody talks about the Tannehill lead offense last year, make no mistake a bounce here or there last year that 10-6 team is 4-12.

    Getting the W is a big trait in any successful team. Not going to knock them for hypotheticals.

    They are just boring to watch this year, even in a close game.
     
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    Based on league data since 2004, regarding the variables that are most strongly related to winning in the NFL, the expected record for a team functioning in this manner is indeed 2-7. The expected final record is 3-13/4-12.
     
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    Sucks Miami isn’t 0-9. Could use a top 2 pick
     
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    Why? For them to waste on some overpaid scrub?
     
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    The Pats could be 5-4 but there 7-2. It really doesn’t matter what we could be, it is what you are. But if you want to do could of been. If there was no tuck rule the Pats dynasty might not of happened.
     
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    Tannenbum would waste the pick anyways.
     
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    Chargers and Titans games for sure we shoulda lost. The other two are different, we made plays to win those games. But this is really a 2-7 team.
     
  9. FSU Truth

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    You are what your record says you are...
     
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    Not boring, painful. It actually hurts me to watch this team. The 2007 team was more enjoyable than this team. The 2007 team had more heart than this team.
     
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    We can make up for it by losing out and finish 4-12.
     
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    The 1-15 team from 2007 had the ball bounce in the other direction - they lost all six games that were within 3 points and 6/7 that were within one score. Soundly trounced in the rest.

    This team so far has WON 4/5 within one score. They have been soundly trounced in the rest.

    What's the difference between those two teams? Statistical luck? Or maybe a little extra heart/finish compared to 2007? Either way, they were both pretty bad teams that should have top draft picks.
     
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    Not really, because what you "are" is based on your stable characteristics, whereas your record could be contributed to by random variables that are unlikely to persist.

    If your stable characteristics suck and your better than expected record is based largely on favorable random variables that are unlikely to persist, then your record really isn't what you "are."

    And that is this team's situation currently. They "are" 2-7, and their record is 4-5.

    When they were 4-2, they were "really" 2-4, and notice they've won not another game since. 4-2 was definitely not what they were.
     
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    Then by all means, have at it and place bets on this team as though they're functioning like a "real" 4-5 team. Best of luck. ;)
     
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    I've seen all the nationally televised games --- New Orleans, New York Jets, Oakland and now Carolina. Miami looked pretty pathetic in all those games with the exception of a nice comeback from Matt Moore versus the Jets. Before that, though, they played really bad against NY as well.

    Early in the year, the defense looked pretty good but that unit has fallen off big time as well.

    I've seen the 49ers a handful of times and they look like a better team.
     
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    It was pretty much like that last year too. But I think many NFL games could go either way and you could have this debate for many teams. New England could/should have 4 or 5 losses and they don't. Good teams win close teams. Bad teams get blown out and lose in close games. Because everyone is about the same, coaching and injuries are the difference.
     
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    The defense has been poor in the most important area -- opposing passer rating -- all year.

    Opposing passer ratings have been the following, in order:

    110.6
    126.3
    104.5
    85.5
    86.4
    108.4
    107.9
    99.3
    120.4

    It's been either well above average, or in the average range, in terms of opposing passer ratings. They have yet to cause an opposing QB to have a poor performance, the kind that makes an opposing team very unlikely to win.
     
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    We got no pass rush whatsover vs. an average Carolina o-line. Newton had all night to throw passes.
     
  20. Danny68

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    Thought this was kinda funny.. And true
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    That's because we have no pass rush which in turn makes it harder for the DB's to cover and our LB's can't cover anybody under

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Agreed that Miami would be 2-7 had the Chargers kicker done his job and Mariota wasn't hurt. If anything that just makes the Dolphins a bit better than they should be. I've been saying they finish 6-10 for a while now. It's going to happen.

    A top 10 pick is in their future.
     
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    Could easily be 5-4 too. Goes both ways. Parkey missed a field goal last week that would represent a tied game
     
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    Your premises is logical.

    However with the same reasoning, I can also say with a healthy RT, we could be a true 6-3 team.
     
  25. J. David Wannyheimer

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    The Miami Dolphins are 4-5.

    They've played well enough to win four football games this season, which they did win.

    They were really, really bad in four other games. They lost one close game.
     
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    That, and there is also a general weakness in downfield pass coverage. The CBs are young and inexperienced, and the safeties aren't known for their pass coverage skills. They're far from a Richard Sherman/Earl Thomas/Kam Chancellor-type setup.
     
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    9 games in and feels like a 2 and 7 football team

    mostly because of the qb play
     
  28. niw

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    does the conversation change from tanking to wild card when we are 5-5 and buffalo loses sunday?
     
  29. DuderinoN703

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    Doesn't matter. Miami isn't beating NE nor are they winning in Buffalo or KC. Those are 4 guaranteed losses. They aren't making the playoffs at 7-9.
     
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    With the crap teams in the AFC that 6th team might slip in at 8-8 or 9-7. But that team will get beat quickly in playoffs.
     
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    I think NE is slightly overrated,and with each passing day TB is getting older and older so he's not gonna run on us thats for sure which is an advantage to our D,they also squeaked out wins over jets and chargers whom we defeated.I think being a division opponent it's gonna be a close game and we are pretty pretty good in close games.
     
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    Not necessarily,if we manage to get in the playoffs we will be so heavily underdogged that we can actually play extremely loose and we have home run ability at rb and we have a defense that on paper is more than capable of winning a playoff game..and we can only get better from this point on so we would be hitting our stride in january.
     
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    New England over rated. Wow!
     
  34. DuderinoN703

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    Heavily disagree. It seems this discussion happens every year yet Brady and the team never actually slows down. Brady is on pace for 32 TDs and 4 INTs. Miami has zero chance against the Patriots this year.
     
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    When Brady starts looking like Marino in 1999 or therabouts, then he's done. Right now he's looking better than early '90s Marino which is pretty damn great for a guy who's in his 17th year as a starter. Whatever problems the Pats have this year, Brady isn't one.

    Thinking Brady is done is nothing more than wishful thinking. Of course, that's all Dolphins fans have had for decades now.
     
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    If New England were only "slightly" overrated, that would be meaningless, as their intangibles would likely overcome that discrepancy in any game of importance.
     
  37. Goin` Deep

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    You did watch them put up 41 points against the NFL's #4 ranked defense Sunday night, right? QB had 3 TDs and a
    125 rating....
     
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    I don't like looking at it this way because you can say that about the majority of Super Bowl teams, or even the actual Super Bowl. You can say that about any competitive game.

    What is obvious to back said claims, though, is that this is clearly one of the worse teams in the NFL yet based on record they're right in the playoff chase. The schedule will soon match this team's record with reality though.
     
  39. DuderinoN703

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    Yeah. It feels like Brady will play and be elite until he's 50. Until then Miami is assured nothing better than a Wild Card.
     
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    Well I wouldn't put it past him in any case.

    Compare him in his 17th season as a starter to Marino, Kelly, Montana, and all of the rest of those 80s/90s guys at that point in their careers. It's no contest. And he's not doing it with All-Pro's around him-- he's carrying the team!
     

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