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Picked up some decent guys overall, but picking up a franchise QB is the most vital aspect for any new regime and unfortunately this regime did not hit on one.
Langford, Clemmons, Bess, Hartline
here is my evaluation
2008
1 1 MIA Jake Long T Great Player
2 32 MIA Phillip Merling DE Not good
2 57 MIA Chad Henne abortion of a player
3 66 MIA Kendall Langford DE good
4 110 MIA Shawn Murphy T not on team
6 176 MIA Jalen Parmele RB sucks
6 195 MIA Donald Thomas G not on team
6 204 MIA Lex Hilliard RB not very good
7 245 MIA Lionel Dotson DT practice squad, not very good
2009
1 25 MIA Vontae Davis DB good
2 44 MIA Pat White QB not on team
2 61 MIA Sean Smith DB good
3 87 MIA Patrick Turner WR not on team
4 108 MIA Brian Hartline WR good
5 161 MIA John Nalbone TE not on team
5 165 MIA Chris Clemons DB too early to tell
6 181 MIA Andrew Gardner T not on team
7 214 MIA J.D. Folsom LB doesn't play
2010
1 28 MIA Jared Odrick DE injured 1st year, 3rd 3-4 DE taken in first 66 picks in last 3 years. They already have Randy Starks.
2 40 MIA Koa Misi LB ok so far. didn't need to use pick if moron ireland didn't trade matt roth for no reason.
3 73 MIA John Jerry T injured/ can't beat out pat ****ing mcquistan
4 119 MIA A.J. Edds LB injured
5 145 MIA Nolan Carroll DB too early
5 163 MIA Reshad Jones DB good special teamer/ fill in
7 212 MIA Chris McCoy DE
7 252 MIA Austin Spitler
As someone who wants Sparano and Henne out I have to say that I really don't think the drafts have been that bad. Compare these drafts to what we had the previous 5 years before Parcells and Ireland. As someone mentioned, the defense has been totally rebuilt.
That's like comparing YOUR MORNING BOWEL MOVEMENT TO YOUR EVENING BOWL MOVEMENT
THEY BOTH STINK
As far as the defense How much was due to the draft
versus free agency
Wake..not drafted
McDaniel...not drafted
Dansby...not drafted
Starks...not drafted
Sapp...not drated
Moses...not drafted
Dobbins...not drafted
Harris...not drafted
Bell...not drafted by this regime
Crowder...not drafted by this regime
Soliai...not drafted by this regime
Don't say the drafting is good or look at the defense
The defense has 2 players drafted making a difference
LANGFORD AND DAVIS...THE REST CAME BY TRADE,FREE AGENCY,OR WERE HERE
Did this regime rebuild this defense...yes
but not through the draft
Davis went 25, Matthews went 26We couldn't of had Clay Matthews either. He was taken before we picked.
Doom and Gloom, The drafts have been pretty solid..We will see how many will last,but the D is def much improved..The influx of young talent has helped.
The only draft pick that made you go WTF was Pat White..
Picking Turner and Hartline early, as most called it reaches was understandable cause we had no decent WR's
Hartline has been pretty good..Turner was a complete bust..You dont expect that from someone who was a 3rd rounder and most thought he was going to be picked in the 4th or 5 round..
here is my evaluation
2008
1 1 MIA Jake Long T Great Player
2 32 MIA Phillip Merling DE Not good
2 57 MIA Chad Henne abortion of a player
3 66 MIA Kendall Langford DE good
4 110 MIA Shawn Murphy T not on team
6 176 MIA Jalen Parmele RB sucks
6 195 MIA Donald Thomas G not on team
6 204 MIA Lex Hilliard RB not very good
7 245 MIA Lionel Dotson DT practice squad, not very good
2009
1 25 MIA Vontae Davis DB good
2 44 MIA Pat White QB not on team
2 61 MIA Sean Smith DB good
3 87 MIA Patrick Turner WR not on team
4 108 MIA Brian Hartline WR good
5 161 MIA John Nalbone TE not on team
5 165 MIA Chris Clemons DB too early to tell
6 181 MIA Andrew Gardner T not on team
7 214 MIA J.D. Folsom LB doesn't play
2010
1 28 MIA Jared Odrick DE injured 1st year, 3rd 3-4 DE taken in first 66 picks in last 3 years. They already have Randy Starks.
2 40 MIA Koa Misi LB ok so far. didn't need to use pick if moron ireland didn't trade matt roth for no reason.
3 73 MIA John Jerry T injured/ can't beat out pat ****ing mcquistan
4 119 MIA A.J. Edds LB injured
5 145 MIA Nolan Carroll DB too early
5 163 MIA Reshad Jones DB good special teamer/ fill in
7 212 MIA Chris McCoy DE
7 252 MIA Austin Spitler
well i was going to list all the players but that got screwed up when i posted......but in reality what we see above is what we have ANYWAYS after their first 2 drafts (ill give them a pass so far on this year....its too early to pass judgement)
despite the fact we had an additional first rounder that everybody seems to continue to forget about AS WELL AS an additonal 2nd rounder that RANDY MUELLER obtained for us in the fantastic chris chambers trade AND the NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK IN THE DRAFT
we came away with Jake Long and Kendall Langford.....thats a complete joke folks for a team picking first in each round AND several additional picks in the draft!
in year two again with an additonal second rounder obtained by trading away our former DPOY Jason Taylor and several additonal 5 rounders we came away with Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Brian Hartline and Chris Clemons... i would say that Clemons and Hartline are very replaceable as they are average NFL players at best at this point. same could probably be said of Smith.
so thats not really saying much after two drafts that had MUCH MORE AMMUNITION going in than any normal draft....so neither of these drafts can be compared to an average year.....we simply had way more picks and were picking in very favorable postions. and essentially came away with nothing.
in addition they got rid of a guy that should have been the answer for us on the strongside at OLB in Matt Roth for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. and the guy most likely to make a big play and find his way to the end zone for this team despite all the hate among fans who were wrong about the guy (ted ginn) simply because he was picked ninth and we didnt draft brady quinn.....well that turned out to be the CORRECT CHOICE didnt it? in fact if you look at that draft there are only a few players that we should have taken in front of Ginn.....but we had so many holes we needed to create an identity...Ginn was to help in that new offensive philosophy by spreading the field vertically (which by the way would have been FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL then the current bull**** we watch). we got rid of him for nothing.
my contention would be that Randy Muellers ONLY draft in Miami was better than ANY of Parcells drafts have been....and that includes ****ing up with john beck.....but guess what...AT LEAST THEY TOOK A SHOT....at least we know they had him above brady quinn! ..... wel guess what....we didnt have Henne ABOVE matt ryan.....so it was a COMPLETE fail to take Long BEFORE you take your franchise QB.....in addition look at ALL the QBs in that Mueller draft NOBODY was any good.....nobody panned out.....so look at the rest of that draft. Mueller did a better job than these guys
When you started talking about Ginn, I lost all respect for your knowledge of the game and players. Ginn was nothing but speed. It takes more than that to make it in the NFL. Sorry, don't mean to be mean, but Ginn sucks and shouldn't even be mentioned.
Truthfully, NE's FA are better than the folks we drafted.As someone who wants Sparano and Henne out I have to say that I really don't think the drafts have been that bad. Compare these drafts to what we had the previous 5 years before Parcells and Ireland. As someone mentioned, the defense has been totally rebuilt. There were a few misses, but if you look at other team's drafts I'm betting that they aren't much better in rounds 4+. We have landed a lot of good players late and as FAs (Wake, Carpenter, Bess, Hartline, Carroll, Jones, Clemons) that have really contributed to the team. Are they all superstars? No. But in past regimes we got nothing of value late.