To everyone who wants to Blame Tannehill

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  1. FinfanInBuffalo

    FinfanInBuffalo Perennial All-Pro Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Ask yourself where the important catches were from Wallace and Clay on the last two drives? Where was the running game, again? Did we break ANY tackles today? Is Thigpen the worst KR/PR you have ever seen?

    Tannehill wasn't perfect but name one player on the offense that was better.
     
  2. FearTheBeard

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    Ask yourselves who's calling plays? A ****ing dinosaur.
     
  3. Jamaicankid21

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    I just want to know why Lamar Miller is killing drives running so far south, east, and west, everywhere but north.
     
  4. Wallace17Miami

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    takes a sack on the final play. lmfao
     
  5. Strangeworld

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    Ask yourself why this QB fas failed to generate 30 points in all but ONE complete game since he got here.
     
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    Your homeboy dropped the game winner on the previous play. lmfao
     
  7. mrbunglez

    mrbunglez Reading Is Fundamental Donator

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    Team game, look up football. When you don't have a running game points will be left on the field.
     
  8. Wallace17Miami

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    Yea, wallace sucks, not unexpected.
     
  9. phinfan13

    phinfan13 A True Fan

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    Tannehill is just an average QB. His YPA in the 2nd half was garbage. There are better options in the 2014 draft. I believe if we roll with Tannehill in 2014, we'll be making the same mistake that we made with Henne in 2011 (Yes, I agree Tannehill is better than Henne, but that doesn't mean much since 90% of the league is better than Henne). Don't hold out for something that just isn't there.
     
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  10. dnespins

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    im tired of the excuses for RT. he's not getting any better nor is he making the players around him better.
     
  11. AZStryker

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    Easy Ireland's drafting and crappy free agent signings and Sherman's god awful play calling. However this is a waste of time as nothing can derail your agenda!
     
  12. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Because he can't catch it for the receivers, run for the RBs, block for the OL, etc.
     
  13. Dick Pepperwood

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    We were all so Happy to let Bush go. We miss that Dude.
     
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    I'm really not worried I think we looked good against a strong, hot team and still hold our playoff destiny in our hands
     
  15. phinfan13

    phinfan13 A True Fan

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    We had 16 in the first half of this game and couldn't even get to 30. I would have settled for 29 even.
     
  16. Geordie

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    FFS stop making excuses for him. He's not a rookie anymore, he should be generating more points for his team the 0 in the 2nd half. The guy doesn't have iIT. Will he find IT, who the clock is ticking, he needs to step up.
     
  17. dnespins

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    mike wallace is far from the top of the list on what is wrong with this team. far from it.
     
  18. Dolphins7273

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    Just wait until Tannehill is gone. All of the people currently in denial will curse his name.
     
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    16 freaking yards combined by the starting RBs......... That is all.
     
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    Enlighten us oh Draft guru? Who are the better options in the draft???
     
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    JTC111 Viva la resistance!!!

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    To be fair to Wallace, that was a crappy throw. He had to change directions and come back across the defender. Had Tannehill led him out to the left, Wallace has steps on the defender and has a much better chance of making that catch.
     
  22. Jamaicankid21

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    I was pretty sad to see Bush go at first, but then I bought into the hype of Lamar Miller and him getting 1500 yards. Hes just too soft. Can't break any tackles. The running game has been poor all year but the team losses always go 100% on Tannehill which I never get.
     
  23. pags77

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    How about 2 under throws to a wide open Wallace. Then an over throw to a wide open Wallace. He has not improved in his deep game.
     
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    The bottom-line is the whole team underperforms because of the coaching staff. So if you lay it out on THILL, or any other player, understand their respective performances are being brought down by this coaching staff. Everyone seems to either come here and suck or leave here and get better. What does that tell you about our last 2+ coaching staffs?
     
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    That they can't design game plans around the talent they have.
     
  26. NO WAKE ZONE

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    Marino would have trouble with this oline the trolls just need to stfu the play calling and oline is what is holding tanne back
     
  27. niw

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    thigpen not taking the touchback was just inconceivable
    also the play calling was at times just atrocious
    on the bright side we beat the jets next week easily
    even after today the playoffs are attainable
    also poor clock management
    also the 4th n 10 play was the game but we failed and we cannot stop the run to save our lives
    story of 2 halves also that 15 yard flag when cam newton slips and blatantly laughs about it makes the game pretty soft
    the refs r flag happy and bipolar at the same time
    they throw a clear flag on the play to mattews only to pick it up and say its a clean hit
    the NFL referees are a joke to say the least and its these flags that shift the game and gives momentum swings
     
  28. sharp

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    yall so mad lol
     
  29. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Here are my thoughts on Ryan Tannehill today:

    1. Pocket presence and movement has improved the last few weeks. He escaped numerous sacks today and extended plays.
    2. Deep ball timing still isn't there, but is improving. I believe he was 2/4 on those. One overthrow and one catchable ball on that next to last play.
    3. Made two awful throws on the run. One was intercepted and one he thought Wallace was going to come back, and Wallace went vertical. I think Mike was right on that one.
    4. Going through his progressions better and checking the ball down when it's not there.


    He certainly wasn't perfect today and we need to see continued growth, but how on earth are you really down on him after today's game? He was 2/4 110 yards and a TD on deep bomb attempts to Mike Wallace. Three of the passes were catchable. That is not bad. I'm sorry, it's just not. Cam Newton was like 0/4 on those passes today and incidentally, those misses weren't all his fault. Ted Ginn totally botched at least one.

    I don't understand how anyone who watched this game today doesn't come away feeling better about Ryan Tannehill than they did before the game. I don't understand it. He had by far his best game yet moving in the pocket and extending plays, and improved his accuracy on those deep throws they've been struggling with.

    No, he's not a great quarterback. But do you expect him to just suddenly become great overnight? He is clearly not there yet. It's not going to happen in one week. Yet he makes big strides today and people are even more upset with him? Unreal.


    Also, anyone who thinks that last pass play in which he hit Mike Wallace with a catchable football 65 yards downfield while being totally blasted and unable to step into the throw was a bad pass, is a ****ing moron. Period. If you're going to come into this thread and claim that was a bad pass, just come on out right now and say it so you can get an 'official Finheaven moron' badge.
     
  30. northnj dolfan

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    The run game is pathetic along with the play calling.
    RT should run more when pressured to avoid so many sacks.
     
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    Thank you so much for actually watching the game and making a fair analysis agree 100 percent
     
  32. phinfan13

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    I'm glad you acknowledge that I am a guru since I wanted Wilson over Tannehill; I appreciate that. But here's my list based on our current draft position: David Fales, Jimmy Garappolo, and of-course Johnny Manziel. Even if you don't want to take a QB in the first (Manziel) at least consider taking Fales and Garappolo in the 3/4th round for competition.
     
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  33. retarmyfinfan

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    I would have settled for 21
     
  34. utahphinsfan

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    Can't or won't?
     
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    Same, but its rare that a team that has scored 16 can score 21 overall. I was thinking at least another TD and 2 FGs in the second half.
     
  36. PCmor

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    Wallace should have had that last one. That's definitely on him. I don't care if it was a perfect throw or not. He got himself all turned around, but he had his hands on it. Playmakers make plays. I can live with some drops, but you need to elevate your play in money time. He didn't.
     
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    Tannehill played well enough to win today.

    The problem today in my opinion was the lack of safe and effective passing targets when the team needed first downs to win the game and couldn't run the ball effectively. There is no go-to tight end, and no big possession receiver who provides a target for high-percentage throws.

    Carolina extended drives with its running game and its receivers, and consequently they had 20 first downs to our 13. 13 first downs is a very poor game in that department.
     
  38. BGtoKNfor6

    BGtoKNfor6 Where is the reset button?

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    I blame Tannehill for inaccurate deep ball throws. That is about it. Team game. Many ways to lose a game and Miami finds many of those ways.
     
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    Ah yes cause the QB does it ALL by himself. Your not worth my time.
     
  40. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Not one of the responders named a player on offense that was better than Tannehill today. Enough said.
     
  41. JamesBW43

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    Yes he is. Getting better doesn't mean you never make mistakes or have poor games. He may not be getting better at everything and still has some major problems to work on, but overall he has shown some progress this year.
     
  42. FinfanInBuffalo

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    Another thing I noticed the team has no go to plays or go to players on third and 3 or 4. Everything is a struggle.
     
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    Um, Mike Wallace?
     
  44. Phinatic8u

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    A consistent running game would help this team tremendously.

    More creative playcalling will help this team tremendously.
     
  45. dolphans1

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    Ryan Tannehill has to go, he really sucks, all he has to do is run with the ball and get a first down and we easily win this game.

    I predict next year, if we keep him and Philbin, it will be the same result.

    Ryan Tannehill is not a a very good QB.
     
  46. Viggen

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    Tannehill stinks. How good does Wallace look this year if he's with the Colts, Chargers, steelers, pats, broncos, giants, cowboys, Seahawks, etc. pretty much with any team that has its starter and is not a rookie or named Alex smith.
     
  47. volk

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    Blaming Tannehill for this loss today simply means you didn't actually watch the game.


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  48. volk

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    Oh, the guy who dropped the game winner when it was actually in his hands? How much is he getting paid again???


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  49. utahphinsfan

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    I agree. After watching parts the game today as well as the ones against Cincy, Buffalo, New Eng, Tampa, & the Ravens; RT17 has made decent (not spectacular or great) progress since late Sept of last yr.

    My suggestion to those who expect instant results is to start taking Ritalin and give up that silly, perspective warping, certain video game.

    Something to ponder... What would the phins record be if Fiedler, Lucas, Beck, or Harrington were the QB?
     
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    I watched the game, Matt Moore and Pat Devlin are better than Ryan Tannehill.

    How many more weeks of this sh&&*(do you want to see of this....garbage?)

    We can't ever score over 20 points at all.

    The refs stole the game away from us again with the reversed no call, on hitting a defenseless player , but Ryan Tannehill is not a good QB and he will never ever be a great player.
     

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