Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by dolfin530, Feb 5, 2013.
Is it possible to get Tyler Eifert at #42 and what does everyone think of him?
I think most here would love to grab him at 42 but I'm pretty sure most think he wont last that long either.
I think you have a better chance of drafting Eifert at 42 than you do of getting Hartline to sign a 3 yr $12 million deal.
I guarantee that you would be able to get Eifert at 42.
The only drawback is that he may be a little beat up after playing 20 years in the league.
I don't understand these mock drafts and unrealistic rounds you all have players going in.lol he is the #1 tight end and better pro prospect than fleener,there is no way...bailey in the 3rd? Don't make me laugh.lol I want these players just as much as the next guy...but a lot of things you guys mock are simply unreasonable
Its not what you think the rest of the world thinks of Eifert, its what the Miami Dolphins think of Eifert.
He would start day one. That says round 1 to me. Anybody who drafts a guy based on potential in the first round is just asking for trouble.
A lot of mock drafts have us taking him so who knows.
I never said he would sign...thats just the value I put on him.
If he falls, then yes I love the idea.
If he truly does fall then I wouldn't hesitate.
Ertz is better.
Based on your mock, Rotoworld (not the best source, I know) has Jonathan Cyprien going in the 1st round. Is it really possible he drops to the 5th?
There is also no way we take a QB in the 3rd round.
More chance of getting Ertz at #42............
I would be very happy if Miami was able to get either Eifert or Ertz at 42.
ive been meaning to change that but no way he goes first round. 2-3rd round. safety somewhat deep position.
btw, alot of people saying a lot of players moving up to first round, well what happens to those projected in round 1 before?
alot of players will surprisingly drop by numbers and draft by position game.
eifert has bigger frame and better blocker. problem for me and my liking eifert is travis kelcie is just as big and could end up just as good if he goes to a good team with great qb.
Ertz is an inch taller and DOES NOT have a bigger frame. Ertz is the better blocker and much better pass receiver. Not sure why people keep putting Eifert ahead around here.
Plus, neither is there at 42.
I disagree with the idea that Eifert is a better prospect than Fleener was, but I disagree more with the idea that Ertz is better than Eifert.
I'd be fine with Eifert at 42, but I wouldn't be jumping for joy. I'd be extremely displeased with Ertz at 42.
I agree with all of this. No way either TE slips.
I'm sure atlanta will take him in the first round.
I rather draft fauria and build him into the most dominating NFL TE red zone threat for years to come. I think he has that kind of natural ability, and the love for ertz and eifert is overhyped IMO.
Tyler Eifert doesn't have the YAC potential of Gronk or Hernandez or Vernon Davis or Antonio Gates. But he is an absolute first down machine. Might have the strongest hands i've ever seen on a tight end...maybe the strongest hands i've ever seen on an offensive player in college. If the ball placement is right, it's a completion. If we get receivers who open up the field (mike wallace) and he is able to operate in open space...the chains would move and move and move.
And in the end zone, whose beating this guy for a jump ball?
They are close enough to each other that it's not a big deal. Ertz is faster but both are very athletic. Eifert played a lot outwide for Notre Dame and was a huge mismatch.
And while I agree that I don't think either will be there at 42 it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Tight Ends fall a lot more further than they should The ones that go high are either coming in with unreal hype (Kellen Winslow and Jeremy Shockey) or destroy the combine (Vernon Davis and Gonzo).
I've seen good tight ends fall a lot further than they should. Heath Miller going 29th was a steal for Pittsburgh and anybody who watched him play that year, knew he was better than that. Same with Zach Miller while he was at Arizona State.
For anyone to say Ertz is a better pass catcher than Eifert is incorrect and must not have watched any tape of the two. Watch Eifert get in and out of his breaks especially when he is lined up in the slot or out wide. In addition there is no comparison to body control, it's Eifert hands down.
Does anyone on this board watch full game tape of these prospects rather than a 30 sec YouTube video?
As of today Ertz might be the more complete TE, although not by much, but if you are wanting a receiving TE Eifert has more ability, just watch the tape and you will see.
looking at Fauria's frame I worry that he will be Agnew 2.0
I havent come across a mock yet where he falls past 30 to the falcons.
Eifert has amazing body control and bend. His receiving window is ridiculously wide because he can reach back for a lot of balls thrown behind him.. With that said, I like Ertz catching the short 5 yd pass and driving for the extra 5 yards. Both players are very good but I like Eifert slightly more. Tight Ends usually are mocked too high around 18-20 and get drafted int he late 20s or early 30s. With so many QBs going last year the TEs got pushed back somewhat. I think this is a good crop and quite a few teams desperately need one. I do same many teams really need one every year though and they dont get overdrafted.
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Falcons will be an obvious choice for one in Rd 1, but I wonder if they ignore the defense for one. I cant see that happening.
I've got the Packers taking Ertz and the Falcons taking Eifert. Either way the only way to get either one is to trade down. There is no way either is available in round 2. I'm rooting for a TE via free agency.
Dolphins are going to have to trade up to get one of them.
I think he will be gone by then. I am OK with it if he falls although I rather draft S Elam.
I agree with your analysis wholeheartedly.
Eifert is the Superman version of Dennis Pitta, IMHO. A big kid who uses his size well, gets open, is a fantastic catcher in traffic and in the red zone, has a wonderful blend of big WR/throwback TE. No, he isn't a RAC guy or a dominating blocker. But, he is a huge wingspan target with very good length despite a pedestrian lift and Anquan Boldin type vice-grip hands. I see him as essentially Anquan Boldin at 4" taller, 40 lbs. heavier, and much younger (7 or so years?) playing TE. What's not to like? He runs good routes and velcro's mis-thrown balls while outmuscling DB's and LB's. He is a huge target over the top running seam routes and dependably makes those catches in traffic that would otherwise result in disaster for his QB. He is a mismatch in the red zone and this was playing for a team that really didn't have a decent QB or even a plan-B option to catch the ball. Yeah, Eifert would make me ecstatic if we he were available at 42 and we drafted him.
That being said, if Ertz were available and picked at 42, I like him almost as much as Eifert. Ertz is the classic move TE, but lets face it, he's a lousy blocker. He improved his building blocks this year, but when running to his side, Ertz's guy often made the tackle and usually without much trouble shedding Ertz's block. The only area that Ertz really shines is that he is suprisingly light on his feet, quick, fast and has soft hands. I'll be shocked if Eifert's arms aren't longer than Ertz's though. When doing the Fleener comparison, I'd expect Ertz to give you about what you got from Fleener, but not quite as fast and a tad bulkier. IMHO, Fleener wasn't as impressive as expected last year, and the Colts seemed to be right picking Dwayne Allen ahead of him. That can't help Ertz's chances IMHO.