Vikings get a 1st for harvin but ireland only got 2 third rounders for marshall?

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  1. phinatic1399

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    Damn not be negative and beat a dead horse but this just smacks us in the face and reminds us what awful compensation we got back last year for a top 5 "alpha" WR. I mean there is no comparison. Yea harvin is more dynamic and u can do more with him but marshall is 6'3 220 i mean come on we shoulda got a 1st rounder no doubt. Ireland got played. So when we had spielman as a gm he sucked by now all of a sudden he is some savvy personell guy?
     
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    Let. It. Go
     
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    People are quick to forget Marshall was just coming off another arrest when that trade was made.
     
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    dont worry about what other teams got for their players. Just worry about us
     
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    Enough with you blowhards. Tomorrow starts an exciting time to be a DOLFAN...
     
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    Percy is younger and not as much of an off field liability
     
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    How many teams, at that time, were lined up to trade for the lunatic, who didnt want to be a dolphin anymore?
     
  8. JFoxx

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    I'd be more concerned what this might do to their position in the FA market. Now with Harvin gone, they are free to get anyone they want at WR and almost have to. Hopefully that means they are going after someone else other than Wallace, as this could get ugly if teams like Minn are also willing to throw money his way.
     
  9. abNORMal

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    Also, Harvin was demanding a trade, Brandon did not, so the Vikes had less leverage in the situation. and we still managed to get less
     
  10. joeharley666

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    Dude, let it go and move on in your life. For crying out loud, stop living in the past!:tubes:
     
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    This is all you need to know when wondering why Marshall's value was only two 3rd round picks: Rap Sheet
     
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    lots of potential harvin, but the guy is off the field way too often, and with his migraine issues, not sure id give up a 1st for him
     
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    That makes it worse...Ireland rushed to judgement before Marshall was cleared....
     
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    Philbin wanted Marshall gone and Chicago was the only team willing to give up anything - how does it get better?
     
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    He's also a lot less productive. Hawks over paid because of what he could bring to the pistol offense they run. I think he's a great fit for them but still giving up a first is a tad steep. Also just wait till you see the contract they will need to work out to make him happy.
     
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    No he wasn't there was a fight at a night club he was never arrested and no charges were filed.
     
  18. abNORMal

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    The rush to judgement made it worse...If he had waited until the charges were dropped he could have gotten more than two thirds.
     
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    off topic but i can't believe we are about to sign wallace for so much money. people freaked out on marshalls drops just wait till you get a load of this guy
     
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    I am afraid of that, too. Not worth anywhere near 12 mill per. Which is why the pundits are saying we will get him and there is very little competition for his services.
     
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    let it go please ... just let it go !
     
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    But that is exactly what you're doing... :crazy:
     
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    This was my initial reaction as well. But I'm trying to forget that whole situation ever happened.
     
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    *yawn*
     
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    I Bet the Vikings will get Mike Wallace now!!!

    He said he wanted to play with AP. No one wants to play for a no winning Dolphins team. Just think how Peterson will open up the passing game for Wallace!



    Were F'ed again
     
  26. abNORMal

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    And vice versa!!
     
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    Typical Jeff Ireland excuse right here. Let it go forget the **** ups, think about the future where more **** ups can occur.
     
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    'Let it go' is an excuse?
     
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    :lol2:
     
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    We also only spent two 2nd round picks for Marshall in the first place. Then consider the fact that Marshall was having off the field issues, as well as a regression in his play on the field. I do still think it was a bad trade, but it really wasn't that bad all things considered.
     
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    I mean the OP is right... It's pretty sad, not good business.
     
  32. BGtoKNfor6

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    Marshall still drops td passes...
     
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    The Dolphins wanted to get rid of Marshall only one team offered them anything. You take what you can get and move on.
     
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    I hate hearing people say move on or stop living in the past.

    I promise each and everyone of you the day Ireland is fired is the day I start being positive again... Until then we are doomed to repeat history and wallow in our misery and bad decisions.
    Chubbs
     
  35. Wildbill3

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    never ever ever let the facts and reasoning get in the way of a good ireland bash.
     
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    It's a different situation because as it has been posted, the Bears were the only team really interested in that headcase, and vice versa. However it still doesn't negate that Ireland gave in to below market demands.
     
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    Why is anyone surprised.... This is the calling card of Jeff "buy high sell low" Ireland.

    Next year when Vonte makes the pro bowl (that's right I said it) everyone on here will be screaming "we gave up a pro bowler the prime of his career for a second"?
     
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    Marshall may have dodged that assault charge (no matter what anyone declares, I'll never be convinced that his victim didn't score a big pay day) but undermining every QB not named Cutler and with a standing 2 strikes against him, Marshall was one more impulsive act away from a significant suspension. Anyone who want to compare that to the Harvin trade has an anti-Ireland agenda that's as transparant has Rex's crotch around strange mens' feet!
     
  39. abNORMal

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    ...and someone else will be here saying, "let it go."..."move on"..."get over."

    ---------- Post added at 03:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:26 PM ----------

    Interesting analogy...but most of that ish occured before BM was a Phin.
     
  40. Wildbill3

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    But some of it DID occur after he was a fin right? you can't really whitewash all of it away.
     
  41. DolfanDuBbZ~

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    Another bash Ireland thread, with all the little cheerleaders speaking in the echo chamber.

    Fact: Philbin was hired. He helped steer the roster.
    Fact: Marshall had a habit of talking down his QB. On more than one occassion he was seen yelling at Henne on the sideline.
    Fact: MIA was gonna draft a young raw QB.
    Fact: Marshall had his history off the field, that finally put the nail in the coffin in MIA. CHI got him, and he proceeded to demand the football at all times. Making CHI a 1 man 'I' team.

    OP and you Ireland haters, get over it. This team starts anew in less than 24hrs. If you must be negative (Chubby) don't let country music and some wine get you down. Its no way to live your life.:3w:
     
  42. WVDolphan

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    Apples and oranges here.

    Just another stupid thread with a flawed argument to bash Ireland.
     
  43. Wildbill3

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    don't forget the fact he even threw Moore under the bus, and Moore did a lot to help marshall get to the pro bowl.

    ---------- Post added at 05:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:21 PM ----------

    it's quite fitting that marshall the team chemistry and QB killer gets paired back up with the QB who is a team chemistry and coach killer.
     
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    and multiple arrests when we traded 2 second rounders for him lol.
     
  45. CalDolFan10x14

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    This is the equivalent of crying over 2 month old spilled milk.
     
  46. NYinBostonFin

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    Was a terrible trade, even if they didn't want him, you dont trade at the lowest point of his value. The club incident was just someone looking to accuse him and collect money and the FO made too quick a move. All you questioning the chemistry, sure didnt mind on his way in, nor did I hear anything about it when loudmouth Chad came soon after. Ridiculous, bad move...admit it. 2 #3's for a guy with BM's talent? He was worth more to someone, and they panicked and made a move for nothing.

    I'm over it after we pick someone up tomorrow that will replace him and help our QB on the field. Funny how I see some say get over it that still cry everytime Matt Ryan, or Pat Willis come up.
     
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    Marshall had the THREE I's ( incidents, injuries, inconsistencies. ) for two seasons with us and a history of them in Denver too. motivation was clearly a problem here for him and in general this whole team under sparano. stocks down, we sold at a bad time.
     
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    Say what you want, but he was a model citizen in Chicago while once again putting up #'s. Even stuck up for Cutler when he was getting ripped in the media.

    The probowl thing? Saying the same thing the FO was saying is something to trade a probowler for? Talk about something to "get over".
     
  49. shurtyj

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    Also, the Seahawks' first round pick is towards the bottom in a really week draft. Not sure I wouldn't have taken two second rounders instead of that one first rounder.
     
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    yeah, because marshall is the high character guy I want sticking up for my high character QB.
     

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