Walterfootball 2013 Draft first 3 rounds 10/24

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  1. Dolphinator530

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    Here is the most recent Walterfootball mock draft (10/24)...what do you think of our draft according to them? I will put some of the available players after each pick; meaning they would still be available if the draft fell this way.

    1st (24)
    Miami Dolphins: Chance Warmack, G, Alabama [​IMG]
    The Dolphins need to fix the right side of their offensive line so Ryan Tannehill has more time in the pocket. John Jerry should be upgraded.

    Chance Warmack has a chance to crack the top 20 despite being a guard. He's the top offensive line prospect in this class.

    PLAYERS AVAILABLE AT OUR PICK:
    Alec Ogletree
    Robert Woods
    Eric Reid
    Tyler Eifert

    2nd (37)
    Miami Dolphins: David Amerson, CB, N.C. State [​IMG]
    The Dolphins have an extra second-day pick because they dealt Vontae Davis to the Colts, so they should probably use one of them on a replacement. Richard Marshall is not playing well.

    PLAYERS AVAILABLE AT OUR PICK:
    Tavon Austin
    Chase Thomas
    Jordan Poyer
    Tank Carrafine

    2nd (51)
    Miami Dolphins: Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech [​IMG]
    I'm not sure if Brian Hartline qualifies as a No. 1 receiver just yet. I can't really explain the whole thing myself, but he appears to be a starting-caliber wideout despite his zero-catch performance against the Rams. The Dolphins, however, need another one for Ryan Tannehill, who needs a better second option than Davone Bess, who should just be a tertiary slot receiver target.

    PLAYERS AVAILABLE AT OUR PICK:
    Nickell Robey
    Zach Ertz
    Sheldon Richardson
    John Simon

    3rd (83)
    Miami Dolphins: James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech [​IMG]
    Jared Odrick stops the run very well, but he can't get to the quarterback. Rookie Olivier Vernon hasn't really flashed yet, so the Dolphins may spend a mid-round selection on a defensive end.

    PLAYERS AVAILABLE AT OUR PICK:
    Shawn Williams
    Johnny Adams
    Stedman Bailey
    Mike Gillislee


    3rd (90)
    Miami Dolphins: Nico Johnson, LB, Alabama [​IMG]
    The Dolphins have zero depth at linebacker, so this is an area that'll need to be address this upcoming offseason.

    PLAYERS AVAILABLE AT OUR PICK:
    Stepfan Taylor
    Bacarri Rambo
    Dantone Jones
     
  2. The Tannehills Have Eyes

    The Tannehills Have Eyes A True Fan

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    We made the playoffs :pbanana:
     
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    Warmack is a talented guard, but it's hard to like that pick simply because there are other bigger needs. Amerson could be an interesting FS prospect. I think that ends up being his position in the NFL. Have to check into character with Rogers and I think that could move him down a bit. Does have talent, though. Not a huge fan of this draft overall.
     
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    So many things wrong with these picks...Isn't Warmack more of a power running type Guard? How does he fit the ZBS? TedSlimm?

    Amerson, as I've said before, is not very good and he would be a better fit in a zone scheme. Coyle is having our DBs play more press man coverage.

    Da'Rick Rodgers...seriously? The guy that was kicked off the Tennessee team? No thanks.

    Gayle has a nice motor but questionable instincts IMO...good size, nice player but I would prefer we take one in the first and get a real difference maker.

    I have no problems with Nico Johnson.
     
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    I don't think Amerson would make a good transition to FS b/c many times he looks disinterested in tackling. Watch the tape of the UCONN game and tell me what you think. He had a few nice hits in the TENN game, but also whiffed a few times as well. He's an enigma to me right now.
     
  6. Kdawg954

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    I mean is this some sort of a joke or something? A first round OG? Come on. We run a scheme that is less dependant on high round guards and tackles and quality can usually be found later. I'd surely be pissed if Keenan Allen went one spot ahead of us like in this mock and knowing that St. Louis is that team that is one spot ahead of us I'd hope Ireland got aggressive in an attempt to move in front of them to nab Allen.
     
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    I would punch someone if it played out like this.
     
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    let me just say that if we pick ANY offensive lineman over Woods if Woods is there, fn huge fail. Period
     
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    amerson is more of a zone corner. amerson is terrible in man coverage. no thanks. seen him get torched by every receiver on tennessee, every receiver against miami, a game in which he gave up about 3 touchdowns by himself.
     
  10. SCOTTY

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    There is simply no way we go Oline in the first. Nope not going to happen. These sights are stuck on the old Miami regime where we ignore palmakers at the top of the draft. Those days are over.
     
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    I'd off myself with that draft, no doubt. A guard over Robert Woods and Tyler Eifert. David Amerson. Awful.
     
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    It's hot garbage. Gayle I like but that's it.
     
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    Hopefully. Ireland IS still here.
     
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    I know its halloween season and all, but that draft is an absolute horror show
     
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    That might be one of the worst "professional" mock drafts I have ever seen.
     
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    I know it's easy enough to find, but you still should have included a link.

    As for the picks x_x
     
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    1st (24)
    Miami Dolphins: Chance Warmack, G, Alabama [​IMG]
    The Dolphins need to fix the right side of their offensive line so Ryan Tannehill has more time in the pocket. John Jerry should be upgraded.


    When was this written last year? There is nothing wrong with the right side of our o-line. Jerry does not need to be upgraded - he needs to be motivated, which he is right now.

    No thanks on a Guard in Round 1.
     
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    Even if Jerry was sucking, which he's not, using a first rounder on a guard when we have MUCH bigger needs would be a complete failure, no matter how good that guard turned out to be.
     
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    Usually Walter Football makes some pretty good draft picks, but as of late you start to wonder if the guy running the Walter Football site is maybe related to Jeff Ireland. :chuckle:

    No way in hell do we draft an OG in the first round. We have much bigger needs,,,at WR, DE, CB, TE. We can add a very solid Guard later on.
     
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    any mock that doesn't have texas a & m ot jake matthews in the top 3 rounds needs to start over...or stop trying...
     
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    Walterfootball has updated it's 2013 mock. Good and bad things. We're taking Keenan Allen in the 1st :). Bad news: with the 14th pick. I don't know how I feel about this selection with him missing time with a bad knee, but hopefully that is just an abundance of caution.
     
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    the only pick I really like here is nico johnson.

    I'm not really high on mock drafts this early... this mock is a perfect example of why.
     
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    in the updated mock I probably wouldn't take Shariff Floyd (if we are gonna go DL, get a DE), but Floyd fits the mold of a pick the Bengals would make for Mike Zimmer. Iffy on Uzzi. Fits our system but I think we can do better.

    That being said even with objections, we walk away from the draft with Keenan Allen, Carrington Byndom, Shariff Floyd, and Arthur Brown that's a lot of talent.
     
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    updated mock

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2013_1.php

    our picks
    1.Dion Jordan DE, Oregon
    2a. Cordarrelle Patterson WR, Tennessee
    2b.Shariff Floyd DT, Florida
    3a. Leon McFadden CB, San Diego State
    3b. Gerald Hodges LB, Penn State

    again, not a huge fan of taking a DT so early, but couldn't complain if we ended up with those players after 2 days. At least Walter finally doesn't have us drafting a guard.
     
  25. Geordie

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    I can't see Floyd going that low, he's been awesome for UF all year. NFLdraftscout have him going in the first round. Would be a great pick up if we don't resign Starks but I think we would be crazy not to.

    Haven't seen much of the Oregon guy, is he worthy of the pick ?
     
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    I love Dion Jordan. Love James Gayle, too.
     
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    Just youtubed Dion Jordon, watched his snaps versus USC and Fresno. Got to say unimpressed, didn't see the explosive pass rusher we need, missed a lot of tackle, no consistent threat on the QB, no trickery to his play, I dunno, don't like to disagree with you CK, as you know a hell of a lot more about these college kids than me, but just from that small sample size I don't see him worthy of a first round pick maybe someone to develop in the later rounds.
     
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    our picks:
    1. Tyler Eifert, te (trade down get extra 3rd).
    2. D. Hopkins, R. Woods, C. Patterson, wr
    2. D. Trufant, C. Byndon, cb
    3. T. Jefferson, R. Lester, B. Rambo, s
    3. C. Thomas, S. Porter, A. Brown, G. Hodger, lb
    3. Ryan Swope, wr or Stephen Taylor, rb
    4. Guard / DE
    5. Guard / DE
    6. Kicker
     
  29. ckparrothead

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    I disagree. Great size and frame, unusual athletic ability for that frame, and violent hands. He plays roles in that defense that a guy with his size and frame shouldn't normally be asked to play. In the end I could see the argument if not for the violent hands which shock opponents. Sort of the same as I could see the argument about Tannehill if not for the pocket presence, ability to handle the rush and throw the football on the run. I felt that set of skills represented Tannehill's safety net as a football player, and I feel Dion Jordan's violent hands are the same for him, and represent the failing in arguments I see against him.
     
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    I am with you on Rogers. The guy has a ton of talent, but has the mind of a 5yr. old. There is no way I would draft this guy in the first 5 rds.
     
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    Robert Woods in the second round? I only watch highlights but that would be a hell of a steal from what I have seen. Could he drop that low?
     
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    Geordie, I believe Ckparrothead is right on with his assessment. Jordan is a special talent easily top 20 and with a defensive run maybe earlier. The thing that is most intruging about Jordan is that he was a 4-star TE recruit from Arizona who has earned Aliotti's trust and playing time on defense. As Ck has noted, Jordan is lanky with a frame that can add more weight without being a detriment to his speed.

    Another thing that I like about Jordan is that he knows how to take care of his body. Instead of packing on muscle and hitting the weight room, he has slowly added functional weight that allows him to play stronger and faster than his 6'6 245 frame would suggest. I liken it to MMA fighter George St. Pierre, he has said it takes him a whole year not weeks to gain 10 pounds if he chooses to move up weight-class.

    The last point of emphasize is how Jordan has improved as a player over the past year. As a Junior, he was tentative - not trusting his instincts and over-thinking - and slow to react to the play. This year I am seeing his assertive, aggressive nature take over his play. There is no hesition that I saw a year ago only pure instincts to attack the player.

    Since Werner and Teo are likely gone, I wouldn't mind either Jordan, Mingo, or trade down for Eifert.
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    I bow to both you guys superior skills at analyzing talent as I said I'm no genius at doing that at all. Maybe I just picked the two wrong games to watch or I just didn't see what I should have seen in them. Sounds like there is a consensus that this guy would be a good pick at the position we are likely picking in, it's definitely a need for this team. I'll try watching a few more of his games and see if I can fall in love, I do see some of the "violent hands" that CK talked about.

    I'm also totally with you on the trade down for Eifert.
     
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    he isn't as explosive as he was his freshmen year. Just hasn't looked the same since his ankle surgery. Still a good prospect but some doubt whether he's a number 1 in the NFL. He has looked better in recent weeks
     
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    From what I've read, the guy has virtually no cartilage in his ankle - he's worn a brace to help stabilise bone-on-bone friction which causes him inflammation.

    That is not a temporary condition. He's also had elbow and shoulder issues.

    I'd be very wary.
     
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    Who are you talking about?
     
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    Charlie Posted his 2013 mock and it looks like this

    1. K. Allen WR
    2. L. Ryan CB
    2. Z. Ertz TE
    3. J. Simon DE
    3. R. Swope WR
     
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    Woods. Post above mine. Forgot to quote him.
     

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