So did it improve with Matt Moore at QB?
Many of those screens are built ins to the read option...they arent called screens by gase
Only difference id expect to see is less qb reading the edge defender post snap more direct hand offs regardless to keep tanny from taking unnecessary contact
They already said that hes gonna be more of a pocket qb going forward...believe it
Anyways if the box count says throw the bubble pre snap throw it post snap we will
And miami just signed the worst screen blocking wr in football to $20 million guaranteed so theres that too
Not to mention that screen passes often work because you caught the defense off guard... Kinda hard to do when you're the team doing it the most, wild guess is that opposing defenses are going to be looking for it if they have done any type of homework...
Its not going away when its a numbers advantage play...and thats what it is count the box play...the bubble used as an extension of the runnng game...the goal isnt to gain 8 yards a clip its to gain 4
And as long as miami has more slug straight ahead guard play than lateral and range athletes i wouldnt be scrapping it as in the inside zone read option with built ins when it jump starts the run game although if it is scrapped somewhat it will be with qb health in mind more than anything else
Numbers play all the way though
Also miami isnt throwing deep verticals out of those looks anyways outside of maybe a pump the screen wr act like hes gonna block then release down the seam when the middle deep or shaded safety gets nosy so pulling stills for a caroo there given the blocking aspect of things isnt the worst thing
I get the math and, like everyone else, I'm not advocating "scrapping it." But, like every other play, if it stops working or works infrequently, reduce it's usage. Maybe go from 2nd most screens in the league to 15th. I don't watch replays of any game so my memory could be wrong, but . . . it seems to me the two problems with the screen were poor WR blocking and/or running a screen when the CBs were playing tight. In any case, calling a play when it loses ground two thirds of the time (I made that number up) begs for a rethinking. Again, I agree with your logic and we seem to disagree only by matter of degree. We seem to disagree only on how often to run the screen.
Well what you are disagreeing with is lining up in that formation more than anything else more than you liking or that look...cause its a box count pre snap and a post snap edge read by the qb if the box count says hand it off or keep it and run with it primarily
There are some designed wr screen calls the tunnel variety but its a run pass option in the zone read with built ins
Still think we mostly agree. There was something wrong with Miami's screen game that is separate from box count. Poor blocking? D reading the play call? Personnel? I don't know, but if the box count says the screen is the best play and results show it's one of the worst plays, there is something wrong somewhere. One more time . . . in general I'm a fan of the screen. It has a number of advantages. But when the math says it's a good call and the results say it was a bad call, something is wrong. My vote goes to frequency of the call and (lack of) blocking.
Corners sniffing it out more than anything else and poor blocking...by the wrs or tight ends
It's a catch 22. You put in Caroo for Stills as a better blocker and the secondary doesn't have to respect the deep ball and therefore are in better positionto make a play on outside screens. Then it's no longer a constraint play which is the only time screens should be used.