We are now at # 7 in the draft order

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  1. Rugby

    Rugby Banned Hammered

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    Just heard on the radio that we have moved to # 7 from # 8 even though we won. Its all about SOS and whoever (I forget who) was behind us their SOS moved up this week and ours down (because we played a losing team).
     
  2. AquaInferno

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    Does anyone have the first 10-15 picks or so?

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  3. Myles Fynch

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    I can't find a current one, sorry.
     
  4. MRojas4

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    1. Indianapolis (1-13)
    2. Minnesota (2-12)
    3. St. Louis (2-12)
    4. Jacksonville (4-10)
    5. Cleveland (4-10)
    6. Tampa Bay (4-10)
    7. Washington (5-9)
    8. Carolina (5-9)
    9. Miami (5-9)
    10. Buffalo (5-9)
    11. Philadelphia (6-8)
    12. Kansas City (6-8)
    13. Tennessee (7-7)
    14. Arizona (7-7)
    15. Seattle (7-7)
    16. San Diego (7-7)
    17. Cincinnati - from Oakland (7-7)
    18. Chicago (7-7)
    19. Dallas (8-6)
    20. Cincinnati (8-6)
    21. New York Jets* (8-6)
    22. Cleveland - from Atlanta* (9-5)
    23. Detroit* (9-5)
    24. Houston* (10-4)
    25. New York Giants* (7-7)
    26. Denver* (8-6)
    27. Pittsburgh* (10-4)
    28. San Francisco* (11-3)
    29. Baltimore* (10-4)
    30. New England - from New Orleans* (11-3)
    31. New England* (11-3)
    32. Green Bay* (13-1)
     
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    We will definitely have to trade up. Indy and Washington are 100% taking QB's and we should be weary that Cleveland may take one. Im also starting to think Jags could take on too. The top 10 are cluttered with teams that could go QB. We need to lose out!

    What do the asterisks mean on the bottom teams?
     
  6. hoops

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    i don't think this is accurate rugby...truths got a thread in the draft forum with current picks...and we're #9...
     
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    Don't think Miami would pick before Buffalo since we beat them twice
     
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    I mentioned the buffalo thing about beating them twice and was told that head to head is irrelevant, its based solely on SOS
     
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    This is true. H2H has 0 impact. It's all about SOS
     
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    I'll guess its because they are the playoff teams so the order isn't confirmed yet just those teams will be picking between 21 and 32 (depending on who wins the wildcards, divisionals, conferences etc.)
     
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    I believe final order is determined by playoff results
     
  12. hoops

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    the win sunday pretty much means we're done getting into the top 5 pick wise...
     
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    Minnesota, St. Louis, Tampa, Jacksonville and Carolina won't be picking QBs. I highly doubt Cleveland will either; they seem content with McCoy. The only teams we'd have to worry about are Indy and Washington; then again Dan Snyder is not the smartest guy in the world so who's to say the Redskins will be smart enough to pick a QB? Our final 2 games are losses I think (and hope, so we can get our franchise QB FINALLY), so we should be able to get ahead of Washington in the draft.

    There is also no sure proof that Indy will select a QB since Manning still has 2-3 good years left, and if they do how do you know its going to be Luck? What if Barkley and Griffin shine at the pro days? Indy could select Tannehill or Weeden in the 2nd round and groom him under Manning for 2-3 years for all we know.

    Regardless, if all 3 QBs come out we will be high enough to get one of them and I'd be ECSTATIC with either Luck, Barkley or Griffin. They're all good to me.
     
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    We are probably gonna end up with the 7 or 8 pick if we lose out with a slim chance of getting the 6th.

    These are the 3 teams that we can gain a draft pick on and what they would need to do.

    The Fins are gonna gain a draft pick no matter who wins between the Bucs and Carolina. The Bucs are 4-10 but have a much higher SOS than the fins and the Panthers are 5-11. This game automatically moves us into the 8 spot. The Bucs play Atlanta the last week of the season and Carolina plays the Saints so the chances for anymore wins from either team probably ends after this week.

    Washington, who currently picks 7th and has 5 wins, would have to beat the Vikings this week as they play them and Philly next week. This would gain another spot.

    Jacksonville would then have to beat Tennessee this week or Indy the final week of the season and we would have to hope our SOS is lower than theirs. This would gain another spot but is unlikely.

    We could however, also lose a spot if Buffalo's SOS falls below our. The fins need Cleveland and (play Baltimore and Pitt) Houston (play Indy and Tennesse) to lose and Cincinatti (play St Loius and Zona) and Tennesse (play Jacksonville and Houston) to win. I don't see us losing a spot to Buffalo this way but there is a slight chance.
     
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    But this is all assuming that the Dolphins lose out. The Jets-Dolphins game is essentially a toss-up. The Jets will likely need the game to ensure a wildcard and the Dolphins will treat it like their Superbowl if given the opportunity to knock the Jets out of the playoffs.

     
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    their is a chance that stl may still get the 1 pick and indy can get the 2.

    if that was the case, that can improve our chances at trading up. stl is beyond bad, and their games are not even competitive.

    their is a very solid chance they will lose out putting them at 2-14. the colts right now are 1-13, but if you look at their final 2 games, its home vs houston, who is obviously better than them, but since they lost schaub, despite being 2-1, they have not exactly looked like world beaters with yates at qb, and then indy goes to jax.

    is it likely? no. possible? yes. thatd be the best case scenario for us.
     
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    Devestating win for us last Sunday . . .we better pray that Barkley and RG3 both declare or we aren't going to get a franchise QB this draft either.
     
  18. datruth55

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    No chance if both end up with just 2 wins. St. Louis' SOS is by far the strongest in the NFL, they've had a brutal schedule this year. Best case would be we lose out and Jax wins the last two dropping them below us in the draft order.
     
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    I agree about Indy and Washington but def not about the Jags. I don't think a team has ever picked QB's in the top 10 in back to back drafts in NFL history and I just don't believe it will happen now either. Cleveland is more of a possibility to take a QB than Jacksonville and they seem to like Mccoy so I think we're ok if the order doesn't change. This of course is assuming all 3 QB's come out of college, if only two of them do then forget about drafting a QB in the 1st round. Although I will say this... I have seen teams that desperately needed a QB pass on one in the 1st round many many times so you never know...
     
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    Lets not forget Buffalo. If they get ahead of us, I think they'll take a QB too. Right now I'd put money on them finishing above us in the draft.
     
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    I can see Seattle doing whatever it takes to land Barkley.
     
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    i agree. i said that indy would need to win out, which as much as that is asking for, for a team that has 1 win the whole year, if u look at their opponents, this week vs houston in indy, with houston starting a 3rd stringer and having not looked as good the past few weeks since schaub went down, and then they play a woeful jags team, its not inconceivable. i never said likely, its the best chance of us being able to trade up/
     
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    Just seen on ESPN, MIA is #9 in draft order as of right now.
     
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    way to waste another season. we could have at least lost a few more and ended up with a decent QB. now we gotta trade up. If we can.
     
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    There is zero chance buffalo takes a qb! They just paid Fitzpatrick WAY too much money
     
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    No such thing as a devastating win, in my opinion.
     
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    Why does new England have new Orleans' pick?
     
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    I heard Polian on NFL radio today at around 11:30. He basically said the Colts will NOT trade out (he said that pretty direct) also he said they will D-Bo Luck if they have to. They don't care if Luck wants to sit or not. So sad to see Luck become a Colt but life must go on. Even with Luck for a while the Colts will be an incomplete team so whatever they can continue to suck with Luck on a bench if they want.

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    If we end up with the same record it's going to be tight. We played Cleveland (4-10) and Houston (10-4) and they played Cincinnati (8-6) and Tennessee (7-7)...essentially one game separates us in the draft order, 14-14 vs 15-13.
     
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    Right now Miami is #9 but if we lose out then we are guaranteed to be at least in the #8 spot. That's because Carolina and Tampa have to play each other and the winner will automatically end up below us, either by virtue of total record (Carolina) or by virtua of Strength of Schedule (Tampa).

    I predict that when all is said and done, Miami will be picking #7 overall.
     
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    yep...i think when it's all said and done it's #7 overall for us also...
     
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    And if Indianapolis upsets Houston this Thursday...watch out. Steve Ross will probably be the most aggressive owner in the NFL when it comes to pursuing an Andrew Luck trade.
     
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    At the #9 pick we can say goodbye to Luck, Barkley and RG3. I am not saying we should tank the last two games, but winning another game means we won't have nothing but crumbs at QB. I would trade down and then just go with the BPA's...or see if the Colts are serious about moving Manning, as long as he can pass a medical exam.
     
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    I think it was Washington that moved down the order and we passed them up. I thought head to head mattered in this but according to the radio this morning it doesn't have anything to do with the order, its only SOS.
     
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    I heard it on the Joe Rose show and they talked a lot about it. That we are now # 7 and Washington is # 8 due to their beating the Giants on the road, is considered a better win than our beating the Bills. It changed the SOS enough that they moved behind us.
     
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    doesnt matter, picking in draft doesnt go by that!
     
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    well we will probably end up 5-11 so we might move up a spot or two
     
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    Can anyone confirm this? I could've sworn we were 9th, but that would be great.
     
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    this is the system


    Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.
    • Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.
    • As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage
     
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    Probably. Weren't there rumors that Ross is pretty much obsessed with Luck?
     

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