We are on the cusp of a potential golden era. Get the stadium upgrade done!

[poppy]

I've been very conflicted about the new stadium upgrade proposal. My politics deplore subsidizing a Multi-Billionare with public funds of any kind. (Esp since said Multi-Billionare is supposedly Ayn Randian in his politics.). That said, My inner wounded Dolphin Fan says screw it, pony up some tourist money and get this done. Seats finally closer to the field and a South Florida version of Seattle's canopy will finally give us our 12th man back. A real 12th man!!!!!! We haven't had one since the Orange Bowl. This along with a potentially momentous off season with loads of Salary cap space and 5 picks in the first 3 rounds and a Logo/Uni change sets us up for a rebirth of the franchise. I'm officially in favor of getting this Stadium upgrade done. It's will make a difference in turning the corner toward a winning future. Any one else ready to hold their nose at this deal because they know it's good for wins/losses?

 

[DeathStar]

He can take out a loan like the rest of us do...

 

[dcnr226]

That's an added benefit (the wins in losses). A renovated stadium and the Super Bowls and orange bowls and college football playoffs and Canes games and soccer tournaments and maybe even a MLS team (one can dream) etc that would ensue from this investment make it win/win for everyone IMO. But yea, a better home experience would absolutely do wonders for our attendance, crowd noise, defense during a goal line stand... I'm all for it.

 

[Daytona Fin]

I have no problem with being taxed an extra buck or two at the hotels when I visit south florida. If it makes game day experience better , i'm all for it.

 

[maralieus]

yeah I'm for it. It will make the team better, not just the experience for the fans. We need more home field advantage and it sounds like this is one of their main goals. If people have to pay a little more for hotels so be it. People that have enough cash to fly down to Miami probably wont care much about a few more bucks for the hotel. People sadly are already prepared to get reemed by their hotel bill, so whats a few more bucks?
I can tell you as a fan that lives away from Miami, I wouldn't fly down there to see a game at a a crappy half full stadium. If I'm gonna shell out the cash for all of that trip I want to be at a nice, full, and loud stadium. I doubt I am the only one that feels that way. **** even you all living in Miami dont wanna go and all you have to do is buy a ticket and drive a few minutes. I know a lot of it is because of the failing team, but I doubt the stadium inspires many.
I always feel for the fans when watching home games. Everybody looks so hot, like "**** wheres the shade in this damn place? I'm tryin to get drunk without passing out!" If everybody is more comfy and closer to the field I think the interest level in the game skyrockets. Its hard to focus when your just trying to avoid heat stroke. Just MHO.
Also i saw the pics today of the proposed stadium upgrades and it looks AMAZING!! Come one people you know that is a stadium you could be proud of!! Picture a HOME PLAYOFF GAME IN A RENOVATED STADIUM!! Now picture the first HOME GAME for the LA Dolphins. Cuz thats a possibility if things dont look up soon.

 

[maralieus]

He can take out a loan like the rest of us do...

Did Darth Vader take out a loan? No, he got the money from the tax payers, and a lot of those workers building the Death Star were independent contractors being paid off of government funds.

 

[ladeback]

Did Darth Vader take out a loan? No, he got the money from the tax payers, and a lot of those workers building the Death Star were independent contractors being paid off of government funds.

Whoa whoa wait... Darth Vader actually did take out a loan for the construction of the Death Star. He told the bank it was for a sports bar.

 

[LANGER72]

The stadium will get upgraded and taxes will go up. Stadiums for billionaires, death and taxes are the certainties in life.

 

[kvado16]

I hate how everyone gets pissed at the owner. You all know how much Stephen Ross is shelfing out for this upgrade? Its nearly a quarter of his total wealth, you guys say oh well he's a billionaire he should pay for it. Most billionaires still wouldnt make this type of an investment, and I guarantee that nobody on this forum if they had that kinda money would pay for all the renovations of our stadium. In the end the people this benefits the most is the fans and the city. Don't you think all those people who own restaurants, hotels, or any business will reap the most benefits out of this? Yet they're all clamoring, ""Ahh Stephen Ross that greedy SOB!" Ok dude once we lose out on those superbowls and big games, you'll start losing millions and anyhow the residents wont be paying a dime. Also this gives fans at Dolphin games or Hurricane games a way better experience prior to renovations, yes Ross will make a little more money because of attendance but it isnt that significant football teams make most of their money from TV deals and merchandise sales. So really guys who does this benefit most? Not to mention the Dolphins give back so much to the community, and they help out other local sports team as well. What team offers up their stadium to be used by two other local sports teams such as the Canes and the Marlins. The Dolphins deserve this.

 

[dlockz]

Im pretty sure the Marlins and the Canes did not use the stadium for free and that the dolphins made money off of these ventures. Also a game at sunlife truly benefits few restauraunts that wouldnt have got business regardless. We had more money spent by tourists in a non superbowl year by far than any superbowl year so lets quit making these myths. Doesnt mean the superbowl doesnt help but it proves it doesnt have the impact the nfl implies

 

[Dr. Phin]

We aren't on the cusp of ****...except finally getting Ireland fired after he ****s up this offseason!

 

[poppy]

We aren't on the cusp of ****...except finally getting Ireland fired after he ****s up this offseason!

Maybe. Let's hope not. Surely you'd prefer my vision over yours right? The fact that we are set up to make it happen is exciting. New Logo/Uni, Upgraded Stadium bringing the 12th man back to Miami after a 26 year absence, and a retooled roster with hope at the QB position. Oh great football gods, please make my vision triumph over cynical Dr. Phin's.

 

[Dmarino110]

so sick of hearing we have no home field advantage because of the stadium...I had tickets when marino was there, the stadium was NEVER FULLY SOLD OUT...UCF's 45k stadium gets louder....

The problem is the fans, flat out...

I had people behind me that didnt want to stand up and cheer on 3rd down...

I remember once the palm beach post had an article and it was titled Class vs crass and it was comparing jets fans and Pittsburgh fans when they came to joe robbie vs our own fans...guess what the jets fans can get pretty loud and they arent 18 feet closer to the field...

 

[poppy]

so sick of hearing we have no home field advantage because of the stadium...I had tickets when marino was there, the stadium was NEVER FULLY SOLD OUT...UCF's 45k stadium gets louder....

The problem is the fans, flat out...

I had people behind me that didnt want to stand up and cheer on 3rd down...

I remember once the palm beach post had an article and it was titled Class vs crass and it was comparing jets fans and Pittsburgh fans when they came to joe robbie vs our own fans...guess what the jets fans can get pretty loud and they arent 18 feet closer to the field...

Then why was then Orange Bowl one of the great home field advantages of all time? The design of Joe Robbie has been a factor.

 

[kvado16]

Im pretty sure the Marlins and the Canes did not use the stadium for free and that the dolphins made money off of these ventures. Also a game at sunlife truly benefits few restauraunts that wouldnt have got business regardless. We had more money spent by tourists in a non superbowl year by far than any superbowl year so lets quit making these myths. Doesnt mean the superbowl doesnt help but it proves it doesnt have the impact the nfl implies

Um yea it does, Sun-Life holds what like 75,000 people or something like that right? About 85% of them are tourist seeing how the dolphins never make the superbowl in Miami much less. Anyhow, thats freaking at least 60,000 people more or less traveling to Miami to watch the big game, that means the hotels, the restaurants, the mall, any business you can possibly think of makes bank off of just one weekend. It's common sense that these superbowls stimulate the economy, not to mention the BCS games we get too.