Who here wants Forrest Lamp? I do!

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  1. UCF Nation

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    Most mock drafts have the top LB and DE prospects already taken.

    Picking BPA (with team fit being a major consideration) and building from the lines out may be the way to go. You also must take into consideration the limitations of the draft itself. The 2017 draft is thin on offensive line talent, specifically talent that teams can expect to plug-and-play. In contrast, this draft is fairly deep on defensive line and edge talent. Between those two variables and the fact that the best edge and linebacking talents have already been chosen, it would make the most sense for the Dolphins to solidify their line further into the future; perhaps even making theirs one of the best lines in the league. There are several contributors for LB that can be had in the second round - such as Jarrad Davis.

    What say you, FH?
     
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    I wouldn't argue if the Dolphins drafted Lamp because he would help the running game and help protect Tannehill. Let's not forget, if he is available at the 22nd pick, he maybe the best player on the draft board when they pick. Also, this would be the safest pick because he will be able to start and contribute from day one. :up: Plenty of help in the draft for the defense after the first round.
     
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    I'd be extremely happy to finally have a fully functional offensive line, with the addition of Forrest Lamp. I said this in another thread, he's has the least amount of question marks of all the players that may be available @22. He'd give Miami someone who's capable of keeping Ryan Tannehill clean. After all, it's all about the QB. The injury could of been more serious and should act as a wake up call. If Lamp is the pick, then defense can dominate all of the remaining picks.
     
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    If the Fins do this and neglect D for the first round then Gase must believe he can utilize ball control and time of possession to help the defense out. He isn't my number 1 choice for round 1 but I couldn't be mad with trying to keep Tannehill alive.
     
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    EVERYONE on this board wants Lamp....the question is do we want him at 22?....depends on who's still on the board. Makes no sense that the FO didn't do anything about the guard position(Larsen) but now will take a guard at 22. We need to draft one but I highly doubt it'll be at 22

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    I'd be fine with Lamp.
     
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    Lamp, Foster, Willis, or Njoku. I'm fine with either selection.
     
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    1A. Hassan Reddick 1B. Forest Lamp.
     
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    Larsen has started 16 games in only 1 out of 7 seasons
    kinda sounds like a career backup, good depth but a career backup nevertheless
    but he has experience at center so when Pouncey goes down Larsen might be the next center.
     
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    I am a WKU grad but I would want us to trade down before we grab him. I am not big on using a first round draft pick on any guard.
     
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    I wouldn't be angry. Would help in the running game and passing game
     
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    To me, it's not "do I want Lamp" - I do. It's "do I want Lamp as opposed to . . . " There are a number of players I'd "love" at #22. Problem is, most of them should be gone at #22. This is, to me, an unusual draft. Of 2-5 players who SHOULD be available at #22, Lamp is one I'd like, which means I can be happy with a number of ways Miami can go. Haven't been able to say that in a while.
     
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    covert Lamp into a DE? Bold move
     
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    Not with the 22nd pick in Round 1.
     
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    I hope we take Willis, Lamp or Njoku that's my big 3
     
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    Throw in Reddick but he won't be there
     
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    sounds good in theory...like someone else said, unless your bill belichick.

    Dolphin defense is a mess, the trade off needs Lamp to be an immediate 8 year all-pro at Guard or it's probably another wasted opportunity.

    Guard is just one of many issues Miami has on offense.
     
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    We need defense before we look at anything else. Our defense was a stinking pile of horse manure last year!!
     
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    I think Jordan Willis, a premier, edge rusher will probably be sitting there at 22. Do we take Willis and grab a Guard in the 2nd or 3rd round or do we grab Lamp or Robinson at #22. I also think Watt, McMillan and a guy I love Jarrad Davis, will be there. If I'm Miami, in the first 2 rounds, I want a great defensive player and a plug and play Guard. I'm fine with Pocic, Feeney or Elflien in round 2 and Willis or Davis in round 1.
     
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    And being 31st in 1st downs is a turd fest
    as well as being 31st in converting 3rd downs

    Maybe the defense was a huge problem but the offense
    did the defense no favors by NOT sustaining drives

    Guess who led the league getting stuffed at or behind the line of scrimmage?
     
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    I want Lamp so bad its not even funny ... We need to establish good "Guard Play" for once, and Lamp would help GREATLY!!! If he is there at 22, we NEED to take him ... no questions asked!
     
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    I would be pleased with Lamp at 22, even more excited if we trade down and still get him in the late first round. The question I have is if we don't select Lamp in the first, then who is worthy of a plug and play pick for Gaurd in the 2nd or 3rd? I know that are some really good guards after Lamp, but there are at least a dozen other teams who could use a plug and play guard.
     
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    Willis is projected to be a second round draft selection.
     
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    There are more but here is a partial list

    DAN FEENEY

    Started 46 games, including 41 at RG and the final five at RT.
    “He was one of our more consistent players (in the draft),” said one scout.
    “They ended up having to play him at tackle, and it was kind of an injustice to the kid.
    He has the intangibles and the intelligence (Wonderlic of 29) to be a pretty good center.

    ISAAC ASIATA who Made 32 starts at LG, seven at RG and four at RT.
    “He’s all maul,” said one scout. “I love him. He always tries to kill guys.
    He’s got a degree of athleticism. He just plays the game really tough.”
    Led O-linemen on the bench press with 35 reps. Will turn 25 late in the season

    DORIAN JOHNSON First All-American offensive lineman at Pitt since Ruben Brown in 1994.
    “Two years ago, they ran more power and Dorian had a really good year,” said one scout.
    “Last year they went to more motion spread with about 10 jet sweeps a game and it didn’t suit his game.
    He’s more of a power scheme guy.” Started 42 of 51 games, including 39 at LG.
    “He’s very smart (Wonderlic of 24),” said another scout. “He’s got really good length (35 ¼ arms).
    His lower body scares the crap out of me. Weak.” Topped guards in broad jump (9-6) and hand size (10 7/8).

    ETHAN POCIC
    Versatility is the operative word. Started 27 games at center from 2014-16, nine at RG in 2014 and one at RT in ’16.
    “He’s definitely smart enough to play all the positions so that enhances his value,” one scout said.
    “You’d want him on your team because if somebody goes down he can flip and play another spot.
    said another scout. “He’ll be a long-time interior player whether it’s guard or center.
    He is tough, technically sound, aware. Smart player. Got an NFL body.” Won’t turn 22 until August. Wonderlic of 29.


    PAT ELFLEIN

    Elflein started 28 games at both guards in 2014-15 before making a smooth switch to center in ’16. “I’ve studied it at length,” said a second scout. “Believe it or not, I thought he played better last year (’15). I like him better at guard than center. He’s really tough and smart (Wonderlic of 21). He didn’t test well enough to go second round.” Top-shelf prep wrestler at Pickerington, Ohio. Two-time captain for the Buckeyes.

    JORDAN MORGAN

    Gene Upshaw Award winner as the top lineman in Division II. “He’s an athlete,” said one scout.
    “It was mixed at the combine but he’d be an interesting mid-round guy. He’s light on his feet.”
    Started 43 games at LT but projects more to center and guard.
    “He was at the Senior Bowl and held his ownSounds like this guy is the same kind of guy
    .” Longest arms of the centers (34 5/8). “Sleeper type kid,” a third scout said.
    “He’s got a lot of up side. He’ll make it.”
     
  26. maralieus

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    I read some good scouting reports on him and his strength, basically saying once he gets his hands on you its over. Draft him and Elflein in the 3rd and the offense is complete and dominant. Maybe a good LB drops to pick 54.
     
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    The draft isn't about fixing the team this season...it is about building a better team going forward, I think people believe that adding a 1st round DE, LB, etc, automatically makes the D better, but you just don't know how quick their transition will be before they can have an impact. Stop looking at adding these players and what they can do for the team "this next season" and see how they can help going forward...adding top level talent will always help going forward, and Lamp is top level talent.
     
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    That kind of sounds like our defense of production also.
     
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    Nope. Pass.

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    If Lamp is available at 22, is trading down to pick up an extra pick or 2 a possibility? Not sure what the team needs are after 22.
     
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    i want lamp on our team, sure...

    but i would prefer the dolphins not draft him at 22. i say that because i am confident that at 22 there will be at least a few defensive players who i would rather take, even if some pundits would call said player a reach....i think we need talent all over the field defensively, and i think we can find a decent guard outside of round 1.

    i also don't think you take a guard in round one when you have such glaring needs defensively and are staring one of the best drafts in decades square in the face.
     
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    I'm in favor of permanently allocating the Dolphins 1st Round draft pick to Offensive Line because they can't draft linemen for **** in any other round.

    So keep those 1st round lineman picks coming. Thinking we'll need another 1st round lineman come 2018 also.

    Keep it up!

    2011 Mike Pouncey
    2014 Ja'Wuan James
    2016 Laremy Tunsil
    2017 Forest Lamp!
    2018 Another OL to replace James, Pouncey or RG
    2019 Another OL to replace anyone else

    Who needs defensive first round picks? Not the Miami Dolphins!!!
     
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    haha i was very surprised we didn't try to find something in the free agency. It must've been very slim pickin's!!!
     
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    That would make 4 first round picks for the Oline.
    Pouncey,James ,Tunsil and Lamp if we go that way with our pick.I believe we trade back a few spots then take Lamp if he is still there
     
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    This is pretty much Dalla's Oline. 3/5 are first round picks. If Pouncey wasn't hurt so much, you would see the same effect.
     
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    La'el Collins was a 1st round talent...so that would be four 1st rounders on the Dallas o-line.
     
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    And we'll have the same sorry *** defense as Dallas if we go that route.
     
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    Not at all...there were 4 UDFA's that could have come in a solidified their position. One pricing himself out of the picture (Zeitler), but Warford, Lang, and Leary could have been there. We decided not to meet their price point for whatever reason. Now we have to hope that Larsen and Bushrod can handle their positions.

    Oh well...it's Ryan Tannehill's knees, not mine.
     
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    Hmmm...the myth of the sorry-assed Dallas defense.

    Let it be known that the Cowboy's defense was (league wide):

    1.) The best against the rush.

    2.) 5th best scoring average against.

    Not bad for a team that went 13-3...we wish we could approach those numbers, and we could...but we don't think a dominating o-line is needed.

    "In Gase We Trust" my ***....
     
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    Well aren't you just a bundle of joy.
     

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