Winston to Miami or Chiefs

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  1. DzakkH13

    DzakkH13 Winning is a Habit Donator

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    fingers crossed!!
     
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    Let's go Miami
     
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    I guess he isn't hearing the numbers he expected...
     
  5. shurtyj

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    There would need to be some salary dumping or restructuring to add both Winston and Flynn.
     
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    I think he will land with the chiefs, they have $40 million in cap space and Winston is looking to become the highest paid RT in football, IDK how were gonna pull that off with only $5 million left in cap space and we still have to potentially sign flynn.
     
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    I read the chiefs were bringing in marcus mcneil so if its really only between us and them it would look like they are exploring other options at RT. However, i dont know with what money we are going to sign winston with.
     
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    Hope we get him. He would be a nice addition.
     
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    Would be nice: hopefully he'll give our low-balling brainiacs the hometown (UofM) discount if KC offered more.
     
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    he reportedly wants 10 million a year. For reference. Jake who when healthy is a top 3 OT, is getting just over 11 million. Joe Thomas only gets 10.5 million. Now that's just base salary)

    He wants to be the highest paid OT in the league. David Stewart (one of the top RTs in the league) Has a base salary of 5 million and with all incentives and bonuses makes over 6 million.

    In short, Winston wants to be paid like an elite LT. And he's not getting that type of money. Rumors are KC was willing to make him the highest paid RT, but not at 10 mill a year.
     
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    Ireland needs to restructure some contracts, and/or cut some players to free up cap space. Signing Winston makes too much sense; he played at UM,he's played for Coach Sherman before in Houston,and his brother Michael is a regional scout for the Dolphins. He's one of the best RT's in the game,and at 28,he's in his prime; so Jeff needs to make this happen.
     
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    the market is changing. dont let manning and williams tell ya differently. they are outliers. this market is changing. Half the league is strapped. Thats why buccaneers are suddenly paper champions. But you dont build a team through FA. Its been proven time and time again....philly eagles.

    We could see some restructuring soon. It would be real sweet to get Winston and Flynn and call it a day cus we would have filled 3 important spots that needed filling. Then if we could get Decastro at 8!!!!whew what an OL!
     
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    Get this guy then we can go add some playmakers in the draft early, or we can really shore up this line and add decastro.
     
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    With what we've done in FA so far, i agree with you on this.
     
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    Ravens just resigned their RT I believe.
     
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    off topic I know but I forgot Daboll went to KC and now Peyton Hillis who had his most success under the offense of Daboll wonder if that had any reasoning behind it
     
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    Wow, I thought we were out of the Winston derby. This dude could really help the running game and his pass protection may not be great but it is way better than __.

    Winston doesn't miss games. I'd give him a 4 yr 20 mil fully guaranteed contract.
     
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    I can't wait to see Philbin's offense this season, but I sure was intrigued by the Miami offense under Daboll going into a full offseason to try and get better. He was a much better OC than that fossil we had in here for those years.
     
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    I hope we sign him, but not for an unreasonable "highest paid RT" contract.
     
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    DzakkH13 Winning is a Habit Donator

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    I know they resigned their C Matt Birk, wasn't aware they signed any other OL.
     
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    Winston's asking price is way too high.
     
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    I liked Daboll ok, he fixed our chunk yardage. I still had a few complaints

    1.He rarely threw to Bess in the slot
    2.Still too many forced balls to Marshall
    3.Still couldn't score TDs in the redzone.

    The biggest issues to me were redzone scoring and not using Bess. The problem I had with the redzone was our playbook became Fade to Marshall, Bush up the middle, another fade to Marshall.
     
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    Definitely like this. Everyone's griefing the FO for what they've done so far but i'm not so sure you can fault them. Soliai was a massive pickup. I also like the Marshall signing and dumping the other one had to be done really. He's just been more trouble than he's been worth. I think Westerman can be a good situational pass rusher. Add Winston, a receiver like Manningham and maybe Mark Anderson too and they hopefully a solid draft will really sure the team up.
     
  24. DzakkH13

    DzakkH13 Winning is a Habit Donator

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    The longer it takes Winston to sign, the more the size of the contract he will recevie diminishes.

    Hopefully he comes to his senses and comes back to Miami and accepts what we offered.
     
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    Completely agree, but I felt like I saw the offense improve as the season went on, unlike under Henning where we always declined towards the end of the year. I guess in my mind I figured a complete offseason and some familiarity, along with a better right side of the oline . . . the offense had a chance to get better this year.

    I also think playing within the game was a problem as well. Not realizing yardage situations, etc. I do believe we upgraded our offensive philosophy by adding Philbin/Sherman so its all for the best.
     
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    No chance he signs...KC bound IMO.
     
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    from the sounds of it (twitter, radio, other message boards) his heart says Miami but his head is saying KC. Basically, sounds like he liked his meeting with Philbin and Sherman more and the system (he's been in the WCO his entire pro career), but he realizes he'll get more money from KC.
     
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    I hope Manning continues this charade for a while now. he he.
     
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    If both offers are in the same low ball park, he will probably choose Miami.
     
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    He was scheduled to make $5.5 million for the Texans but was cut for cap reasons. So, now he wants $10 million a year?!....ROFL!! I am guessing that "low ball" offer people have been bashing Ireland for was in the $5-6 million range.
     
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    Miami cant afford the craziness that is KC's spending
     
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    Sign Winston, Anderson and Flynn and we have the makings of a great offseason.
     
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    Can't see Ireland paying Winston anything close to what he wants simply because he has made it plain he believes Lydon Murtha can start and be very effective. I don't even think he is making RT a priority. It's been a while since I read it so I can't even remember the link, but I remember thinking that he really loves Murtha. Personally, I wish we could get Winston.
     
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    Manning is a special case. Best FA to ever hit the market.
     
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    My guess is Winston is waiting to see if we sign Flynn. I think if we sign Flynn he leans toward us, if we go the rookie route and draft a QB he's going to Kansas City.
     
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    Per Roto:

    Ravens exercised LT Bryant McKinnie's $500,000 roster bonus.


    The Ravens weren't thrilled with McKinnie's run blocking last season, and they went as far as to schedule a visit with free agent Eric Winston. The bonus locks McKinnie in as Joe Flacco's blindside protector for one more season while eliminating the need for Winston.
     
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    if there's a year NOT to overpay for a RT, this is the year. The draft is loaded with good OT's and will not cost near as much as he wants. I'm ok with not getting him if he wants that kind of money....if the money's right then go get him.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    If I had to choose between having Winston and Anderson I choose Winston. We need him vs. Mario. If we land both and Flynn, say goodnight, we done good!
     
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    he's waiting to see if we sign flynn...but i think its more about what kind of money we have left after to see if he can make anymore from us then we have offered already...and if we don't come up with more coin probably will go to kc cause this sounds like a pure money decision to me...highest bidder wins stuff
     
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    Id rather have Flynn and Anderson anyways
     

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