With the 16th pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select...

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  1. endorPHINS72

    endorPHINS72 Restore the greatness!

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    Santonio Holmes

    I would love to see us draft Holmes. Imagine this lineup....Culpepper at QB, Chambers and Holmes (our fastest WRs) split wide and Booker in the slot with McMichael at TE (and Campbell as our 4th wideout). That is a potentially very potent passing game!!!!

    I know there were some concerns about Holmes keeping weight on, but it appears that was just due to the flu. It appears that we're really interested in him, which I think is awesome! Granted, he's not big, but he's fast (Sub 4.4 speed). I think he compares favorably to Lee Evans and Steve Smith coming out of college.

    We do have to add youth and playmakers to the defense, and if Holmes is gone at #16 or if Nick decides to go defense, I think Manny Lawson or Chad Greenway would be great additions to the defense. Also, Winston Justice could be the guy to protect Daunte's blindside for years to come.

    I'm psyched about the draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Phins!!!!!
     
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    Cannot disagree with that at all.

    I've been really, REALLY warming up to the idea of selecting Santonio with the 16th pick.

    Nick is a huge advocate of taking the best available player regardless of need. If he has Holmes rated as the best available player, and he's available, he'll be a Dolphin.

    There are others I'd love too, but they may not present as much value as Holmes could at 16.

    He could turn into our Lee Evans.
     
  3. jd13

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    we can go in so many different directions...i also wouldn't be surprised if saban traded back to get more picks...
     
  4. endorPHINS72

    endorPHINS72 Restore the greatness!

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    I agree. There are a lot of similarities between Holmes and Evans (i.e. both smaller receivers but have some major wheels on them). And unlike Yatil Green, Holmes was completely healthy during his college career. I know I'm jumping the gun a bit, but a Chambers/Holmes combo could be the best wideout duo we've had since Clayton/Duper.
     
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    I hope beyond hope that Justice falls.
     
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    marinoisgodinRI MARINO IS GOD

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    i like jackson better than holmes but i still dont see us taking a wideout with this pick...unless we trade down there is just too much talent in the defensive backfield and we need more help there first also i think an OLB would be a much better option than WR at that pick too
     
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    Hey if Saban chooses Holmes, then I'm happy if he chooses another reciever than I'm happy. My point is whoever Saban is high on he will get to help our team win!
     
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    Chad Jackson, Santonio Holmes, or Winston Justice would be fine with me. :goof:
     
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    I don't see us picking a WR, but I wouldn't mind it either. We really need an impact Safety that can take over a defense--like Bob Sanders did for the Colts.

    If we did draft a WR, Chad Jackson would be my preferred pick, but Santonio is nice too.
     
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    endorPHINS72 Restore the greatness!

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    I hate to break it to you but Marino is a Republican as well. So does that mean God is a Republican??? :sidelol:
     
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    :dolphins: See i don't know now b/c the stupid broncos are infront of us now and they may pick holmes or jackson. i like both but i really want jimmy williams, huff, or trade down for baing.
     
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    I also still like Jimmy Williams, although there has been some negative press about him lately.

    He's way too talented to last past the mid-1st round. With excellent coaching from Saban and Mel Phillips, Williams' potential could be unlimited.
     
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    See my sig to decide if you think I would like this pick!
     
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    Broderick Bunkley
     
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    Good chance he won't be there at 16.
     
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    My top two realistic hopefuls at this point are 1) Jimmy Williams and 2) Santonio Holmes. Williams is an immense talent that can contribute at both the Safety and Cornerback position. Unlike years past, we dont have a premier talent in the secondary so I dont see how we can pass on him if he is still available. If he's not on the board at #16, Holmes should be the pick. He brings more to the table than any other reciever in this draft including Jackson, who im not at all sold on.
     
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    I think most of us see that Nick is probably not going to go after secondary help with the 16th pick unless Michael Huff is there. We have just addressed it already in free agency and there doesnt seem to be that big of a need for it anymore.

    At first I didn't like the idea of picking a WR in the first round because quite frankly I think Booker is an excellent number 2 posession type receiver. But I am warming up to the idea of Holmes. I dont think Chad Jackson is a better option because he is the typical example of a guy who shot up the draft boards because of his workout. He is good but most people were talking 2nd round before that. Not first WR taken.

    There are some out there who are very high on Holmes. Not only is he very athletic but most importantly he is considered one of the best route runners to come out of college in the last few drafts. He knows the game and knows how to set up cornerbacks to make effective breaks. I think with his speed and his knowledge he could really be a great player in the league. Also, I seem to remember teams talking about his run blocking as being excellent. Although I could be wrong on that last fact.
     
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    It seems every year a top player drops.There is talk that Ngata and Huff may drop this year.You would have love one of those picks.

    I really like Justice but he is on the rise and might be out of our reach.

    I am hoping for a tradedown but I will be happy with any player Saban selects because I trust his judgement and he knows better than we do who will be the BPA for us.

    BTW this thread belongs in the draft forum.
     
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    As much as I would like a LB, I think Greenway is bit of a stretch at 16. I think he is more of a mid 20's draft pick, making me think that Sabab will go another direction.

    Just a thing to remember also is Braylon Edwards. Remember the articles that we read about Edwards saying that Saban had him believing that we were taking him at #2. He likes to blow smokescreens. My ideal scenario would be a trade down to the mid 20's and pick up a second rounder in the process.
     
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    I didn't mention that Holmes is very tough too. Makes catches in traffic.

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    Makes catches in traffic
    Very Tough
    Fast and athletic
    Excellent route runner
    bonus in run game
    big game player (did anyone else see the Notre Dame Fiesta Bowl)
    good hands
    can be helpful on special teams
    soft hands
    consistent and very durable (never missed a game)

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    size

    I can't understand why he isnt being discussed higher. Last year proved that you don't need to be 6'2"+ to be a good receiver in the NFL.

    5'10" and 5/8ths with excellent jumping ability is not that bad and yet he seems to be highly downgraded because of his size.

    Steve Smith, Santana Moss, Antwan Randle El all proved the size thing to be a myth. Even Chambers is only 5'11", but I guess he doesnt really play like that.

    Santonio Holmes played in a conservative offense in Ohio St. I would love to know what he could have done in a more open offense.
     
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    Trade down twice to the end of the first and pick up two third rounders. Then select Nick Mangold, Center Ohio State with the first pick, a wr, cb and Olineman with the three thirds and a DT with the fourth.

    Sign Harrington, Schulters and Ephraim before the draft and we'll be good to go.
     
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    I disagree. I think there's a strong chance Bunkley will be there at 16. I don't think Miami needs a DT though. And everyone needs to stop saying they want us to pick Huff. Forget it, he's definitely NOT going to be there. No true safety will be available at 16. It'll be either a late rounder...or the position will need to be addressed in FA, or by re-signing Schulters. I thought we had a shot at Winston Justice, but he did awesome at his pro-day, so he may be gone. It's a tough call.
     
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    We have 2 guys who can play center and have progressed rather well thus far in thier careers.
    We need safeties WAY MORE than we need corners. We have tremendous depth at corner...and are hurting at safety...and we're still light even if we do sign Schulters.

    Trade down twice and get 2 third rounders???Really???
    I think it's more likely to just trade down to Indy's pick for thier 1st and 2nd rounder.
     
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    SethDaddy~

    I agree with you.....Trade with Indy for their late first plus their second seems reasonable. I would be excited if this happened. Do you think that Greenway is a stretch at 16?
     
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    Yes he is. Early on he was considered a top LB but now there are alot better options for LB over Greenway at 16.
     
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    If Justice is around im sure Saban will take him. Although if hes not around look for Nick to trade our pick. That's what i think.
     
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    I think he meant to the second or third round. Justice should fall to 16th but would we really take him? Vernon Carey and LJ Shelton seem to be our answers at tackle next year and Houck is high on Anthony Alabi.
     
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    What are we turning into the Detroit Lions? Yeah we'd have a strong passing game if we picked up Holmes, but I'd say we have a much greater need for an OLB. You're only as strong as your weakest link, and considering we just signed an all-pro FB, and we have a pro bowl TE, we won't be running that many 3+ WR sets. We need to get an OLB that fits Saban's scheme and will help us this year and the next 10 years. That's why Lawson would be the best pick, and Greenway would be the 2nd best pick.
     
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    I disagree, he's top 10. First DT off the board.
     
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    I'd be shocked if he was picked before Ngata.
     
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    Prepare to be shocked. :wink:
     
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    One thing I love about this draft, unlike last year its very hard to tell which route we'll take. Pretty much everyone knew we'd go RB last year. This year is completely different with no glaring holes on the roster.
     
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    Braylon Edwards didn't know we were going RB last year.

    I also think that OLB is a glaring hole.
     
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    Holmes will be a good WR but I want Jackson over him, Jackson has the size I like in WRs. he is also a little faster and has a higher vertical. we have been missing that WR who can win jump ball contests in the endzone.
     
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    That would be very exciting no doubt. I think there are some interesting middle round prospects at wide receiver, but Holmes sure looks good. I still expect Miami to go defense in the first round so Greenway or Lawson would make sense. My sleeper picks for the first round, if the team trades down a bit, would be Gabe Watson or Nick Mangold.
     
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    Give me Holmes Over Jackson, what have any receiver From Florida who was drafted in the last four years done in the NFL.
     
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    Bunkley's stock is sky rocketing after his pro day. While Ngata's stock has stayed retty much the same it's been for months.

    If the draft where today, I still say Ngata will be selected before Bunkley but, Bunkley is on his heels.
     
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    so? history doesn't matter when talking about history of a position at a school. before Big Ben what did any Miami Ohio QB do in the NFL? before Fittzgerald what did any Pitt WR do in the NFL? you get the point?
     
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    Edwards is a crybaby.

    I wouldn't call OLB a "glaring" hole, we still have Spragan who started a good bit last year. Its a need no doubt, I wish Arrington would just sign with someone and get it over with.
     
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    Seems to me I read that Jauron likes penetrating DT like Bunkley not so much guys like Ngata. Sorry I don't have the link. If that's the case, Buffalo is the first team really looking at DT unless SanFran does something unexpected. If he makes it passed the Bills then he could fall to Cleveland or Baltimore, but he is more a fit in Cleveland. Depending on who else is there he could drop to us. Would we want Ngata? I think we would have to take him just cause of his sheer size and strength. he fits our d perfectly and one of our needs.
     

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