Your top 5 at #22

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  1. Sons Of Shula

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    The prospects have been discussed, analyzed, hailed, and prosecuted. So who have you got? I don't want to know who you think the Dolphins will pick, I want to know who are your favorite targets for the Dolphins in the first round?

    Short and sweet, here's who I favor for the Dolphin's first selection.

    1. DE, Jordan Willis - "If you can't get home with the front 4, our defense is done for" - SOS. I really like how Willis' game translates to our defense. He is a wide set pass rusher who has modeled his game after Cameron Wake. He also tested as one of the top athletes at the combine for the edge position. He needs some development, such as his inside game, but overall he is one of the best fits for our attacking front.

    2. S, Obi Melifonwu - Easily the 3rd best safety in the draft and another great fit for our defense. Very good safeties can change the entire landscape of how a defense performs and Melifonwu would be a perfect compliment to our secondary as a Cover 2 safety in man or zone with experience at FS yet the skills to play CB. He has some technical flaws, tackling being one of them (and that's a concern), but he is an [STRIKE]exceptional athlete[/STRIKE]. Scratch that, he is a freak athlete. He is only one of four 3 Sigma Athletes currently in the NFL (Other 3: JJ Watt, Lane Johnson, and Byron Jones. Former: Calvin Johnson, Evan Mathis). I love his upside with character and a mental make-up to develop quickly.

    3. DT/DE, Malik McDowell - Size, strength, versatility, natural tools. On the field McDowell is just about a complete product as a defensive lineman. As good as he is as a pass rusher in which he can beat blockers in a multitude of ways, he is even better as a run stopper and we all know how valuable that is needed. Biggest question that needs to be answered is if he can get cleared by our team psychologist. Hopefully Gase can turn the Dolphins into a solid character locker room where not only will one player not be able to disrupt the camaraderie but be happy to fall in line with it's success as well. Here's hoping because McDowell is a special defensive lineman.

    4. DE, Derek Barnett - I have to admit he wasn't my favorite prospect at first glance but it's hard to argue with that production. One of the most polished and best all-around DE, Barnett is another high character player with a great work ethic. He is an effective edge defender vs the run, and is a highly disruptive, powerful, and productive pass rusher. Barnett does in fact play with heavy and active hands (despite my previous notion on limited tape) and is a day one starter who could easily displace our current weaker and limited ends.

    5. ST, Jabrill Peppers - Just kidding, I would never take a developmental player in the first round. My 5th and final prospect is LB, Rueben Foster - A much maligned player for character and injury (concussion/shoulder) issues, but he's by far the best LB in the draft at one of the most difficult position (Mike) and is a three down player. First and foremost he was the leader of a great defense and made the defensive calls for them as well. Foster has outstanding S2S range, great pursuit, and is a violent tackler. He also has great feet and awareness in pass coverage who can drop/flip his hips to cover anywhere on the field. There's the 'Bama stigma that most defenders have reached their ceiling under Saban and their production will slide at the NFL level, but Foster is an elite backer who I think will flourish in the NFL should he remain healthy. Though that health question is large and looming.
     
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    #1-Foster
    #2-Reddick
    #3-Lamp
    #4-Cunningham
    #5-Barnett
     
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    1. Takkarist McKinley
    2. Derek Barnett
    3. Jordan Willis
    4. Obi Melifonwu
    5. Forrest Lamp
     
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    1-Jordan Willis
    2- obi wan
    3- lamp
    4- jarrad Davis
    5- buddha baker( I love this kid)
     
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    I love Baker too. Looks very fluid and confident
     
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    Of these 5, the ones the Dolphins have been known to meet with are Willis (combine), McDowell (private workout), Melifunwo (private workout), and Foster (private workout but I thought he's currently injured).

    I'm good with these. Are Taco Charlton and Charles Harris on your fringe list?
     
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    1. Reddick
    2. Davis
    3. Willis
    4. Obi
    5. Lamp
     
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    The problem is that the BPA in college might not be the BPA in the NFL. They might be college football stars and never shine in the NFL (Trent Richardson, Dion Jordan, Manziel, etc..)

    I would rather draft by need (LB, G, S, DE, DT, CB)
     
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    1. Reuben Foster, LB
    2. Hassan Reddick, LB
    3. Derek Barnett, DE
    4. Charles Harris, DE
    5. Taco Charlton, DE
     
  10. Sons Of Shula

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    I don't like either of them early, TBH.

    I also see quite a few others placing Reddick on their top 5. I completely agree and would love to get my hands on such a versatile LB, I just don't see him lasting beyond the top 15. But this draft is as unpredictable as any and would certainly be thrilled with his selection.
     
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    1. DE Jordan Willis
    2. OLB Hasson Reddick
    3. DT/DE Malik McDowell
    4. CB/S? Chidobe Awuzie
    5. OL Forrest Lamp
     
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    Willis - looks like a great fit for our D and his skills translate beyond scheme
    Barnett - love his production
    McDowell -if we pick him, I assume Gase has MSU connections saying that he won't sh*t the bed in the locker room. Suh and Wake would provide good veteran presence to keep him in line too
    Reddick - coverage LB that could translate to more in different schemes is appealing
    Peppers - I think he'll be a good pro. I'd use him in the slot intially and blitz him a lot. We do blitz a db out of the nickel a fair amount. Groom him to be safety next to Jones (I dont like it but we have interchangeable safeties). Use him on returns. I dont see him as the "project" that SoS does. I think we get decent value out of him year 1 as slot and returner.
     
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    I have put the project on hold due to the draft and the large amount of time following it to complete it, but I have been charting our defense from last year and although it could change (Burke did say he would zone blitz less) we still only blitzed around 16% of the time on the limited games I have charted thus far.
     
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    1. Barnett
    2. Foster
    3. Davis
    4. Cunningham
    5. McMillan

    Rd 2

    Assuming none of those LBs fall ...

    1. Williams
    2. Walker
    3. Peppers
    4. Wilson
    5. Watt
     
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    Foster
    Reddick
    Barnett
    Harris
    Lamp
     
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    1. Foster
    2. Reddick
    3. Barnett
    4. Cunningham
    5. Lamp
     
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    1. Hassan Reddick
    2. TJ Watt
    3. Jordan Willis
    4. Forrest Lamp
    5. OJ Howard


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    Popular or not here is my list....In order

    1. Lamp: Plug and play makes 4 positions beter with one move. (OG, QB, RB, WR/TE).

    2. Reddick: A versitile LB who can cover and rush the passer, can learn from some good guys in Kiko and Timmons and take yet another step

    3. Davis: Heck of a 2nd place prize if Reddick is gone. LB for today's NFL good sideline to sideline can cover and is a monster in the run game

    4. Willis: designed in a lab for our scheme, only reason I have him at 4 on my list is that I believe there are DE's later on and while I will rank DE up there as far as need a developmental guy isnt the worst thing. I know our guys are older but getting reps this year and adding depth then taking full load next year seems reasonable.

    5. Bowser: May be a reach but got more pressures, hits and sacks than almost anyone in a 3rd of the snaps.
     
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    1. Willis
    2. Barnett
    3. Davis
    4. Obi
    5. Baker
     
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    In this order:

    1. Malik Hooker
    2. Hassan Reddick
    3. Reuben Foster
    4. Forrest Lamp
    5. Jarrad Davis
     
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    1. Reuben Foster. We need more alpha males on defense and Gase believes in that.
    2. Forrest Lamp. If Pouncey gets hurt, then all three interior O line positions would be sub-par. Lamp would provide a good solution. Then, you come back in the second round and snag either a Trey Hendrickson or T-Kpass.
    3. Tie: Derek Barnett/Jordan Willis. With Barnett, I see Olivier Vernon. Not super explosive, but productive due to other traits, e.g., motor, technique, etc. The Willis love is well documented.
    4. Malik McDowell. Mixed bag. I agree there are attitude concerns but they may be blown out of proportion at this point. I saw him play in real time, and he really made his presence known. He honestly could be really, really good.
    5. TJ Watt. I'm going to guess that Gase will love this kid. Lot of upside here. I think in a year or two he may be 265 lbs and a 43 end.

    I'm assuming Reddick and Tak McKinley are off the board.
     
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    Ozzy
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    Led....oh sorry, wrong list....lol

    Harris
    Willis
    Foster
    Obi
    "run" Forrest Lamp

    my list is based on players that I feel could actually be there thought I'm pretty sure at least 3 of them probably won't be

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    1. Peppers
    2. Barnett
    3. Bowser
    4. Lamp
    5. Reddick
     
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    1.Foster
    2.Reddick
    3.Howard
    4.Willis
    5.Barnett
     
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    My realistic top five at 22 I would group pretty closely and if several were still available I'd prefer to trade back and grab whoever is left while acquiring another pick. In order they are:

    1: Jordan Willis
    2: Charles Harris
    3: Takarrist Mckinley
    4: Taco Charlton
    5: Forrest Lamp

    I have three players I didn't include on that list because I don't think they will drop to 22, but if they did they'd all be in my top two. Derrick Barnett, Reuben Foster, and Hassan Reddick.
     
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    1. Foster
    2. Reddick
    3. Hooker
    4. Barnett
    5. Trade Back
    5b. Lamp

    If top 15 talent doen't fall to us, then do your best to bail out of that pick and get a 3rd or 4th rounder.

    Can't Bail draft Lamp and feel good about yourself.
     
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    1) Haason Reddick
    2) Obi Melifonwu
    3) Jordan Willis
    4) Takkarist McKinley
    5) Jarrad Davis

    Yes, I want a Defensive player.
     
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    Foster - LB
    Reddick - LB
    Barnett - DE
    Harris - DE
    Lamp - OG

    Will be pleased with any of the 5 guys listed, especially if we get one of the 2 LBers :hump: :up: :brewskis:
     
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    TJ Watt

    Jarrad Davis
    Rueben Foster
    Joe Mixon
    Deshaun Watson
     
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    Foster
    Reddick
    Willis/Barnett
    Davis
    Taco
    Peppers
    Lamp


    something like that lol
     
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    1 Willis
    2 McKinley
    3 Lamp
    4 Watt
    5 Barnett

    This is slightly difficult for me because DE is the most premium position out of our needs, so you are best spending high picks there to get the best value in terms of both game changers and savings in salary from their rookie contracts. The issue I have is if we don't get Lamp in the first there is a good chance there will be slim pickings in the 2nd round at guard, but potentially some decent DEs left.
     
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    So we have meh talent at both guard and fs and they are all getting 3 mill. Does tj McDonald cost us the obi pick in the first. Do we value the position enough? Just draft an alpha
     
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    1. Takkarist McKinley
    2. Forrest Lamp
    3. Obi Melifonwu
    4. Budda Baker
    5. Jarrad Davis
     
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    R. Foster
    D. Barnett
    H. Reddick
    C. Harris
    J. Davis
     
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    1.LB Haasan Reddick
    2.OG Forrest Lamp
    3.DE Charles Harris
    4.DE Jordan Willis
    5.S Budda Baker


    Thats taking out the obvious guys who won't be there....MGarrett/SThomas/RFoster/J.Allen/DBarnett/MHumphery/MLattimore/JAdams/MHooker and OJ Howard.

    If any of those guys fall I'd go that way.
     
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    Reddick
    Lamp
    Willis
    Davis
    Cunningham
     
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    Of the players projected in Miami's range, my top 5 are:

    Jordan Willis
    TJ Watt
    Tyus Bowser
    David Njoku
    Forrest Lamp
     
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    No Willis? Hater :lol:

    Willis
    Lamp
    Foster
    Obi
    Barnett
     
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    Good points about Obi SoS, didn't really consider him before but it definitely sounds like he would be a better fit for our D compared to Peppers. I still like Peppers a lot and think he could play the FS position (which we really need), but I don't watch tape and Obi has a lot more reps back there so I can see how he would be the safer pick, good list.
     

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