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SI.com: Dolphins May Not Go RB

Any news on that Rivers trade, because that would be ABSOLUTELY HUGE as far as our draft goes. Arizona will clammor to trade up for Rodgers.
 
BTW, it was a very candid interview that King had with Saban. I think we are going to get a lot more press and attention from King in the coming years becuse he really seems to admire Nick (especially since hes a Bellichek protege, which he mentions in every article).
 
PhinDude88 said:
It seems like we will do one of two things. we will draft one of the QB or trade down and get more picks.

what makes u say that saban has looked at almost every top player on the board the same and has not made a comment about leaning toward any of them
 
i agree if RW comes back then we trade down with minny, but if he doesnt come back then we trade down again with minny and take a RB at 7
 
Surferosa said:
BTW, it was a very candid interview that King had with Saban. I think we are going to get a lot more press and attention from King in the coming years becuse he really seems to admire Nick (especially since hes a Bellichek protege, which he mentions in every article).

Yeah, ol' Peter has shown an aversion to most things Dolphin the past few years. But he has taken a particular interest in Saban so far and I'm guessing that will lead to more Dolphins-related items from him in the coming seasons.
 
ercin13 said:
Hopefully Braylon Edwards assuming we get Ricky back before the draft.


Ricky can't come back untill july. if he comes back before than he have to sit out all of 2005. comming back in july means he'll only face a 4 game suspension.
 
I think Saban is just going along with the Ronnie brown is the best attitude to get some trade value. I think he would love to have Caddy more for the versatility and ability and attitude. I think that if we are able to drop down and get picks, that Saban is eyeing Caddy or maybe even Barron and will get a QB in round 2 or 3. Mcpherson is starting to turn heads.
 
Dudeman said:
I really doubt we take a RB. there are too many good RBs that will be available in the later rounds, and Linehan has shown that he can be a miracle worker, and use a RB-by-committee with ease.

I think Saban is gonna do everything he can to trade down, possibly even waiting till 12:29 on draft day to make the trade. Otherwise, I seriously think he's gonna take a QB. unfortunately, neither Merriman or DJ are worth #2 overall
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ckparrothead said:
I mean, no doubt a runningback would by no means be a "horrible" pick, because these three RBs are really quite excellent, but I think long term, a QB would impact this team more.

Saban says first round QBs are historically about 30% on target. I think that changes when you're picking in the top 5 or 10. I hate looking at the 2004, 2003, and 2002 drafts of QBs because to be honest its still too soon to evaluate them. But, in the 10 drafts going back from 2001, there were 15 QBs taken top 15. David Klingler, Rick Mirer, Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, and Cade McNown were the obvious busts. Drew Bledsoe, Trent Dilfer, and Kerry Collins are all up in the air as far as the "bust" term goes, but it should be noted that all three have played in Super Bowls, and Dilfer actually won one. Then you have Steve McNair, Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, and Mike Vick who are most definitely all-star type QBs. It should also be noted taht McNair and McNabb have super bowl appearances under their belt too. It perhaps also should be noted that Pennington was taken 18 overall, just missed my "top 15" cut-off, and he's also a pretty darn good QB. Was this a fluke 10 year patch? I don't think so. As things stand with the 2004, 2003, and 2002 classes, I think it's obvious Harrington is about to fizzle out and go the way of Couch, Carr is having a very unexciting, mixed-review "Bledsoe" type career so far, Leftwich and Palmer have both shown some serious promise, Roethlisberger looks like a stud, and we don't know jack squat about Manning and Rivers yet. Looks like about the same breakdown as the previous 10 years to me, if not better.

So, I think recent history shows that yeah, you run about a 50/50 chance of getting the wrong QB in the wrong situation and he ends up absolutely sucking. But, you also run about a 1/3rd or better chance that your guy turns out to be an absolute stud, and about a 50/50 chance overall or better of finding a QB who is at least capable of directing a Super Bowl caliber team.

As much as people lament how much of a crapshoot it is, and lament how awful it would be to waste a pick and end up with a Ryan Leaf, taking a QB in the top half of round 1 still remains the best chance in all of football at finding a stud quarterback. Take one in round 2 or 3 and your chances go from 50% to like, 6%.

Is that risk worth taking? That's up to the coach, how important the QB position is to his team. There is some credibility to the theories that when you have a QB that is TOO good, that takes up too much cap room and has too big a role in the offense, you put too many eggs in one basket and you don't win that super bowl.

Excellent post but this is exactly the kind of logic that has teams picking the David Klingler, Rick Mirer, Heath Shuler, Tim Couch, and Cade McNown of the world with high draft picks. Its the "this is our chance to get a franchise QB" mentality that drives teams to draft QBs with high picks that have no business being drafted that high. Smith and Rodgers are average QB prospects not elite and drafting either of them in the top 5 is a reach. It may work out but IMO in this years draft you stand just as good of a chance at getting a franchise QB with the second teir of players as you do with the top 2. If we can't trade down we should draft either a RB or WR as both of those positons have guys whose skill set is a good value at the #2 spot.
 
I will guarantee you....

that no matter who Saban picks, there will be both exultation and weeping and gnashing of teeth at the same time depending on which camp the poster resides. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Since the entire thing is a gamble from the very beginning and there ain't no such thing as a sure bet - I will follow the old NFL adage about grabbing a QB if the team doesn't have one they feel is a franchise QB. However, it doesn't matter. For every Jim Druckenmiller, there is a Sammy Smith or a William Greene, or a Randall Hill. Every player has a chance, or we wouldn't have Zach. Just hang on, folks, this is going to be a bumpy ride.
 
It's just my opinion, but I think that we'll take Braylon Edwards. He's the highest impact player in the draft and is going to be a stud in the NFL. Regardless what Ricky does, we'll probably end up taking a running back with our second pick, wether that's a second rounder or third rounder, who knows yet. I get the feeling that Saban is OK with our current QB situation right now and will wait another year to pick one up in the draft. Linehan went out and got his guy in Gus Ferotte who feels will be a valid back up or starter in his offense. Just my opinion, but I think we'll take Braylon.
 
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