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Possibly Brady's last year in 2018

They have the ammo (2 first round picks and 2 second round picks) to move up to select a QB this year if they want one. And Gronk talking retirement is just his way to stay in the news. He's not going anywhere sadly.
 
BahamaFinFan78 said:
Nothing ends while Belichick is in charge. Now they may not be as dominant without Brady but they will always be fighting for the division title and a playoff spot.
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I highly doubt that. Once Brady is gone that team is toast. This isn't 2008 where Belichick had a very talented team that went 16-0 the previous season. This is a below average team without Brady and one of the worst teams in the league if Gronk also hangs up his cleats. Belichick's once "dominant" defense was exposed in the Super Bowl after showing chinks in their armor during the season. That smoke an mirrors crap isn't going to work any more. The Patriots will be looking up from the bottom of the standings in not too long.
 
Amazingly, I think a lot of where this team goes and what it does hangs on Gronk making his decision *soon*. It seems there's actual friction between him and Belichick.

If he doesn't commit to returning to the Pats in the next week, it would not surprise me in the least if they traded him.

And a Patriots team that has no Gronk, no Amendola, no Nate Solder, no David Harris, no Malcolm Butler, Jordan Matthews playing the part of Brandin Cooks and Jeremy Hill playing the part of Dion Lewis is going to be hard-pressed to be as dominant as it's been in years past.

I know they're the Pats. But if you keep digging away at the foundation, eventually the house is going to crumble.
 
Brady made Belichick a great coach.

Where would Bill be if they didn't stumble across what that 6th rounder turned out to be?
 
Stoobz said:
Brady made Belichick a great coach.

Where would Bill be if they didn't stumble across what that 6th rounder turned out to be?
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Could argue the other way. Bill made Brady a great QB. Where would Brady been if he had not ended up in NE?
 
joenhre said:
I highly doubt that. Once Brady is gone that team is toast. This isn't 2008 where Belichick had a very talented team that went 16-0 the previous season. This is a below average team without Brady and one of the worst teams in the league if Gronk also hangs up his cleats. Belichick's once "dominant" defense was exposed in the Super Bowl after showing chinks in their armor during the season. That smoke an mirrors crap isn't going to work any more. The Patriots will be looking up from the bottom of the standings in not too long.
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Haven't you been watching? It doesn't matter who quarterbacks that team they always seem to be just fine.The QB's are coached to play to the advantages. Not to mention how loaded they are at the top of the draft this year. The best we can hope for is to compete with them.
 
Ikema said:
Haven't you been watching? It doesn't matter who quarterbacks that team they always seem to be just fine.The QB's are coached to play to the advantages. Not to mention how loaded they are at the top of the draft this year. The best we can hope for is to compete with them.
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When was the last time the Patriots made the Playoffs without Brady at QB? We haven't seen that team for a long period of time without Brady at QB. The only year was 2008 , when they had a much better team and were able to win 11 games without Brady. This isn't 2008 and the 2018 Patriots would be a below average team without Brady IMO. They wouldn't have sniffed the Super Bowl last year without Tommy Boy. Also had it been Tommy Boy instead of Cooks who got knocked out, Super Bowl 52 would have been over by half time. A couple of extra high picks for a team that hasn't really drafted that well recently isn't all that scarey. Especially since they traded their most talented WR to get one of those picks. Again without Brady and Gronk the Patriots will be a below average team. The writing is on the wall. Their time is coming to an end.
 
The Goat said:
Amazingly, I think a lot of where this team goes and what it does hangs on Gronk making his decision *soon*. It seems there's actual friction between him and Belichick.

If he doesn't commit to returning to the Pats in the next week, it would not surprise me in the least if they traded him.

And a Patriots team that has no Gronk, no Amendola, no Nate Solder, no David Harris, no Malcolm Butler, Jordan Matthews playing the part of Brandin Cooks and Jeremy Hill playing the part of Dion Lewis is going to be hard-pressed to be as dominant as it's been in years past.

I know they're the Pats. But if you keep digging away at the foundation, eventually the house is going to crumble.
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How tradeable is he if he won't commit to playing? Now he may be playing this up to get out of NE but who knows.
 
anyone that tries to act like Brady or Belichek are not among the greatest ever without the tired argument that one of them really is not that good and the other made them has really not watched football since about the year 2002.
 
Belichick is rumored at having issues in NE and it appears the marriage may be on the rocks. With a possible divorce would you bring him to Miami as GM/HC ?
Like we did with Jimmy Johnson.
 
There is less than zero percent chance of that happening, but in some fantasy world where it could happen? Sure, I guess. It's not like we'd have anything to lose by trying it. It would probably end up much like Parcels though. I won't deny Belichick is a good coach, but I also think he's benefited greatly from some rather suspect circumstances. Look at his record in Cleveland prior to NE, and how he immediately becomes the greatest coach in the NFL as soon as he lands there. Look at the stats of most players before and after NE.
 
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