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Most Important Quality Tannehill Needs To Show These Last Games...

That post embodies where we are, and it's a ridiculous locale.

The guy is 7 years out of college yet we are evaluating him game by game. If Tannehill has a great game I know exactly the user names of everyone who will be posting immediately after the game, and if he has a terrible game I know the user names who will be here.

That is Saturday Night Live caliber, if Tannehill were high profile enough for them to care. Only flawed thinking gets us there and has kept us there. If we are satisfied with Crowd mediocrity, that's fine. But the Tannehill defenders don't want to accept that it is much more logical and likely from a long term perspective to find an elite quarterback -- no matter how many tries it takes us -- than it is to forge an elite roster around Ryan Tannehill that just happens to peak at the exact time he is ready to manage a title with that roster.

As an older fan I'd prefer to have that 10-12 year window when anything is possible. Victories in this league are monopolized right now by offenses that score big every week.

I prefer freakish defense but I also know applied odds, and the likelihood of forging a Ravens 2000 or Seahawks 2013 defense is next to nothing. And even if you get there too many guys have to be paid so it can't last more than 2-3 seasons tops. That quarterback can keep going and going like Energizer.

Tannehill needs to remake himself quickly or we should move on.

I think most people here would agree with this. It's the far pro thill and the far anti thill crew that we hear the most from so the noise seems lop sided. I like thill as a QB and think we can win with him but I also would not be against bringing in a HIGH draft pick. I don't want some 3-7 round developmental piece as my QB. If we are gonna invest draft capital in a QB I don't want a half ass attempt.
 
I think most people here would agree with this. It's the far pro thill and the far anti thill crew that we hear the most from so the noise seems lop sided. I like thill as a QB and think we can win with him but I also would not be against bringing in a HIGH draft pick. I don't want some 3-7 round developmental piece as my QB. If we are gonna invest draft capital in a QB I don't want a half *** attempt.

Basically if we get a shot at an elite prospect at QB, then we should pounce on it. But I'm not running around throw **** against the wall and hoping it sticks at the QB position.
 
Oh I'm sorry, throw a TD in there and you are good to go and then some. 17/30 for 200 yards and 1 TD is efficient to you? Think that wins a lot of football games?

That's 88. You really don't know the passer rating at all, so stop.
 
If Gase feels this we have to keep Tannehill. Otherwise we'd need to be aggressive to get an elite to good Qb and thus convinced that Tannehill is not the guy.

An elite Qb doesn't fall into teams' laps. Gase stood behind Ryan last year. It will be huge if he is our coach next year and Ryan is still the unquestioned starter.
 
That post embodies where we are, and it's a ridiculous locale.

The guy is 7 years out of college yet we are evaluating him game by game. If Tannehill has a great game I know exactly the user names of everyone who will be posting immediately after the game, and if he has a terrible game I know the user names who will be here.

That is Saturday Night Live caliber, if Tannehill were high profile enough for them to care. Only flawed thinking gets us there and has kept us there. If we are satisfied with Crowd mediocrity, that's fine. But the Tannehill defenders don't want to accept that it is much more logical and likely from a long term perspective to find an elite quarterback -- no matter how many tries it takes us -- than it is to forge an elite roster around Ryan Tannehill that just happens to peak at the exact time he is ready to manage a title with that roster.

As an older fan I'd prefer to have that 10-12 year window when anything is possible. Victories in this league are monopolized right now by offenses that score big every week.

I prefer freakish defense but I also know applied odds, and the likelihood of forging a Ravens 2000 or Seahawks 2013 defense is next to nothing. And even if you get there too many guys have to be paid so it can't last more than 2-3 seasons tops. That quarterback can keep going and going like Energizer.

Tannehill needs to remake himself quickly or we should move on.

You call it game-to-game evaluation. I see it differently.

I've watched every Tannehill start for the fins and know he's a good qb (the best available, the only one we have, really). I see him having a good game against the pats and that's just talking about the next game on the schedule, not evaluation from game-to-game.

In other words, if we do lose, I guarantee he won't be the reason we do.
 
He has nothing to prove this year. What are you going to evaluate anyway. How he leads a MASH unit. The only real evaluation will be next year and how he leads a healthy offense. It's really the only thing we haven't seen yet, Tannehill leading a healthy offense. Three years in a row of being top ten in games lost due to injury has to end soon. Probably next year we stay healthy

This applies to Gase too. If you think we have seen Gase's offense....well we havent. This was the first year he had his players but unfortunately injuries decimated it before it got started. Were not running his offense now. He's adjusted everything due to the injuries. He's terrified of the deep passing game due to the poor pass protection our middle three give us on the line. You can see the difference in play calls from week 1 and now. First three weeks we were trying for explosive plays. Now everything is running and short passes. All due to injury
 
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He has nothing to prove this year. What are you going to evaluate anyway. How he leads a MASH unit. The only real evaluation will be next year and how he leads a healthy offense. It's really the only thing we haven't seen yet, Tannehill leading a healthy offense. Three years in a row of being top ten in games lost due to injury has to end soon. Probably next year we stay healthy

This applies to Gase too. If you think we have seen Gase's offense....well we havent. This was the first year he had his players but unfortunately injuries decimated it before it got started. Were not running his offense now. He's adjusted everything due to the injuries. He's terrified of the deep passing game due to the poor pass protection our middle three give us on the line. You can see the difference in play calls from week 1 and now. First three weeks we were trying for explosive plays. Now everything is running and short passes. All due to injury

We’ve seen a pattern of Tannehill not making the big play at crunch time...going 3 and out when we need a 4th quarter drive to close out a game...enough is enough.
 
That's fine. Passer rating >100 is producing at a high level.

It literally isn't. Not throwing an INT will get you over 100.

Nonsense.

17 out of 30 for 200 yards 0 TDs 0 INTs = 77

It is about efficiency.

Oh I'm sorry, throw a TD in there and you are good to go and then some. 17/30 for 200 yards and 1 TD is efficient to you? Think that wins a lot of football games?

That's 88. You really don't know the passer rating at all, so stop.

Just using calculators brah, think I care enough to actually math on a Friday night? Hard Pass!
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He needs to show that he's as good as his salary says he is. In 2019 he'll be the 6th highest paid QB in the league...$1 million less than Tom Brady, $2 million more than Russell Wilson, if that gives any perspective.
 
the whole offense is built around the concept of preventing tanny turnovers. not to win but to keep hims from turning the ball over.
thats why you see nothing over 10 yards in the air.

if you think that having a int prone qb having very few ints is as as good as winning in the playoffs, then tannenbaum, tanny, gase is your team.
 
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