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Prediction: Miami Deals Up For Haskins

one thing I can say about qb at Clemson/ALA. none of these teams need great qb to be national champ. last 2 games I saw Tua. he should of been bench.
 
Rowdy1972 said:
I mean pointing to one instance doesnt make it a common misconception. I can show you certain highlights of tannehill moving outside of the pocket dropping dimes but that's not gonna change the narrative on him. Maybe Haskins can overcome it but I think you are gonna see Haskins look more like Goff the last 6-7 games of this year. Deer in the headlights.

Also, we arent that right environment. He will be coming onto a team with a shotty oline (****ty Defense) and defensive guy as a head coach. Former WR coach as OC. Not knocking the coaches but that wouldnt describe the "right environment" to me. We just need to take our lumps this year if we cant get Murray which looks like a pipe dream at the moment. I want a guy that doesnt need the greatest environment to succeed. If I have to wait a year for that, so be it.
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It's the small sample size, he's only a one year starter. People have been very quick to write him off as immobile. Most of those folks formed that opinion during those first few games where it should have been perfect-ably understandable for anyone to be a little timid a need some time to find their feet. There is a reason I linked the Maryland game here, I watched that game live and you have to understand the context of the game here. Ohio State were getting mauled by little Maryland, the D couldn't get off the field, there was little running game for Haskins to lean upon, he had to put the team on his back and win it virtually by himself. He accounted for 6 TDs or something in that game and he grew up, from that point on he was lights out down the stretched, with a very very strong Michigan D next up, look at what he did against them. For one year starters it's very much not how you start but how you finish.
 
Geordie said:
It's the small sample size, he's only a one year starter. People have been very quick to write him off as immobile. Most of those folks formed that opinion during those first few games where it should have been perfect-ably understandable for anyone to be a little timid a need some time to find their feet. There is a reason I linked the Maryland game here, I watched that game live and you have to understand the context of the game here. Ohio State were getting mauled by little Maryland, the D couldn't get off the field, there was little running game for Haskins to lean upon, he had to put the team on his back and win it virtually by himself. He accounted for 6 TDs or something in that game and he grew up, from that point on he was lights out down the stretched, with a very very strong Michigan D next up, look at what he did against them. For one year starters it's very much not how you start but how you finish.
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I’m a big buckeye fan and watched every haskins throw. That Maryland game was exactly how you said. The defense at that point was dolphins vs Houston on tnf bad. The runnin backs for Ohio state last year were as bad as I’ve seen in quite a long time. Haskins is the real deal. His pocket presence and ability to extend the play were soooo me better by years end. He’s already ahead of Tannehill in the pocket presence and reading defenses departments.
 
maralieus said:
I’m a big buckeye fan and watched every haskins throw. That Maryland game was exactly how you said. The defense at that point was dolphins vs Houston on tnf bad. The runnin backs for Ohio state last year were as bad as I’ve seen in quite a long time. Haskins is the real deal. His pocket presence and ability to extend the play were soooo me better by years end. He’s already ahead of Tannehill in the pocket presence and reading defenses departments.
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I'm impressed with Haskins. In this quarterback class, I feel its just two that have the potential to be top-10 type quarterbacks with Murray and Haskins. A lot depends on what situations they get into obviously. I sense that Haskins would have what the new coaching staff is looking for. That's just my gut feeling, though, and most likely Miami would need to trade ahead of the NY Giants to do that. From 13 to number 4 or 5 would be costly, but not if Haskins is the real deal.

Lock has had some interesting games where he looks like he could be an NFL quarterback, but he could just as easily disappoint. I'm not high on Jones or Grier. If Miami goes middle rounds, I do like Finley and maybe Stick.
 
McSorley impressed me at the combine, a mid round pick QB/Swiss army knife. The guy could play WR if he fails as a QB, it's a win, win... Edelman 2.0
 
Geordie said:
It's the small sample size, he's only a one year starter. People have been very quick to write him off as immobile. Most of those folks formed that opinion during those first few games where it should have been perfect-ably understandable for anyone to be a little timid a need some time to find their feet. There is a reason I linked the Maryland game here, I watched that game live and you have to understand the context of the game here. Ohio State were getting mauled by little Maryland, the D couldn't get off the field, there was little running game for Haskins to lean upon, he had to put the team on his back and win it virtually by himself. He accounted for 6 TDs or something in that game and he grew up, from that point on he was lights out down the stretched, with a very very strong Michigan D next up, look at what he did against them. For one year starters it's very much not how you start but how you finish.
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That sounds awfully like somebody making excuses for a QB. Oh the irony...
 
I think it is fair to consider the Dolphins a team that is "a target rich environment" when it comes to getting improved positional play via the draft.

As for QB's, if you can't get someone who can play as well or better then who you already have (and I think we have 5 QB's on our current roster) then what is the value of getting another QB over improving at another position on the field?
 
LargoFin said:
Conviction on a QB is irrelevant. An opinion on a QB is completely irrelevant. It does not matter what you, Dan Marino, or Chris Grier, or anyone else thinks.
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LargoFin said:
Five years from now does not matter.
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LargoFin said:
It does not matter what you or anyone else thinks of Russell Wilson, Mahomes, Payton Manning. Opinion is irrelevant.
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LargoFin said:
You mentioned some players and same applies to them and any other QB. It does not matter what anyone thinks. That includes Chris Grier, Dan Marino, Caldewell, Shula, Belichick. It's completely irrelevant what they think.
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Spiff said:
That sounds awfully like somebody making excuses for a QB. Oh the irony...
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4 or 5 games in college to find his feet versus 7 damn years in the pros with still no pocket presence, yeah it's exactly the same thing, you really are terrible aren't you ?
 
Adam Strange said:
Deciding that X-year is the year we’re drafting a QB in the first round come hell or high water is how we ended up with Tannehill.
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No, deciding X-year is the year we're drafting a QB in the first round and then didn't prepare for it whatsoever is how we ended up with Tannehill instead of Luck.
 
Kamelion4291 said:
No, deciding X-year is the year we're drafting a QB in the first round and then didn't prepare for it whatsoever is how we ended up with Tannehill instead of Luck.
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The odds are better that the 2019 Dolphins win the Super Bowl than that the Dolphins were going to be in position to draft Luck in 2012. And the 2019 Dolphins aren’t getting anywhere near the Super Bowl without tickets.

And yes, had they decided to tank it after they lost the first however-many games in 2011, maybe they would have been in position for Luck. But that would have required actually throwing games and it’s nothing more than conjecture as to something that didn’t happen.
 
They were 0-7 when Henne went down and leading the SuckForLuck race. All it would have taken was to start someone else instead of Matt Moore. That's it. I knew it when they announced that Moore would be starting that the season was going to be a complete waste.

The Colts were smart. They had a playoff team and threw Curtis Painter in there instead of a veteran stopgap that could maybe guide them back to the playoffs. Here they are back in the playoffs while we're starting over from 7+ years ago.
 
McMichael said:
I don't think anyone does....his posts look so incredibly closed-minded as well as just plain bizarre.....
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It sounds like he’s trying to be a philosopher. But you have to have a point and he doesn’t.
 
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