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Dolphins Not Interested In Trading For Rosen

A couple of things here. The reason Zona would trade Rosen is because with Murray, the offense won't fit Rosen at all so why keep him?
Teams know that they want to trade him so Arizona doesn't have much leverage so a 3rd pick might do it. I'm not his biggest fan but I'd trade a 3rd for him.
Heck I'd try to trade a 4th plus Tanny so that he could be their back up(they probably don't want him tho...lol)
 
Danny said:
A couple of things here. The reason Zona would trade Rosen is because with Murray, the offense won't fit Rosen at all so why keep him?
Teams know that they want to trade him so Arizona doesn't have much leverage so a 3rd pick might do it. I'm not his biggest fan but I'd trade a 3rd for him.
Heck I'd try to trade a 4th plus Tanny so that he could be their back up(they probably don't want him tho...lol)
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I agree they don't have a lot of leverage, but what they will know is that most GMs across the league had a first round grade on the kid just one year ago. Although he didn't have a great season, he didn't hurt his stock too badly as there was a lot of mitigating circumstances most notably playing in the worst offense in the league. I think a third for him is a little wishful thinking but I can see him being had for a 2nd and perhaps a 6th or 7th, I'm thinking of buying at that range.

From Zona's perspective they need to build a market for him, that's their biggest issue, outside of Washington it's difficult to find another to where the fit could be.

I still wouldn't be at all surprised if this is all a big show aimed at generating interest in the #1 pick, a few weeks ago I would have said that they have no intention of drafting Murray, now I'm not so sure. Gonna be interesting run up to the draft.
 
Kdawg954 said:
Yea I think they have Mike Glennon out there at a much cheaper number than Tannehill and that, like you said, will be the big Achilles heel in getting anything for him or including him in any trade, to any team.

The one that continues to make the smallest bit of sense is to Cincy with Zac Taylor as the HC now and Dalton having a very cuttable contract.

However Taylor has already endorsed Dalton as a great fit . . . .something none of the new heads have done for Tannehill.

But i think people are forgetting that teams really understand they are not getting the 2016 Tannehill . . . .the guy that is on that contract is not the same guy who earned that contract.

There is a lot of uncertainty around Ryan. Teams will kick the tires on him once he is released but I don’t believe for a second there will be this high end demand for him to be even a backup, let a lone a starter.

Miami is holding out hope due to a weak QB class, but ultimately expect the band aid to be ripped off before FA begins or shortly after it begins.
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Mild tangent:

You want to talk about a guy who got a LOT of money for next to nothing?

From 2016-2018, Mike Glennon was on the Bucs, then the Bears, then the Cardinals.

He started 4 games.

He had 172 total pass attempts.

He was sacked 9 times.

In 3 years.

For this Herculean feat, he was paid $25,171,000.

That is 139,066.30 per drop back.

So basically, every time Mike Glennon dropped back....someone gave him a Porsche GT3.
 
The Goat said:
Mild tangent:

You want to talk about a guy who got a LOT of money for next to nothing?

From 2016-2018, Mike Glennon was on the Bucs, then the Bears, then the Cardinals.

He started 4 games.

He had 172 total pass attempts.

He was sacked 9 times.

In 3 years.

For this Herculean feat, he was paid $25,171,000.

That is 139,066.30 per drop back.

So basically, every time Mike Glennon dropped back....someone gave him a Porsche GT3.
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Really puts it in to perspective lol .
 
The Goat said:
Mild tangent:

You want to talk about a guy who got a LOT of money for next to nothing?

From 2016-2018, Mike Glennon was on the Bucs, then the Bears, then the Cardinals.

He started 4 games.

He had 172 total pass attempts.

He was sacked 9 times.

In 3 years.

For this Herculean feat, he was paid $25,171,000.

That is 139,066.30 per drop back.

So basically, every time Mike Glennon dropped back....someone gave him a Porsche GT3.
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:drop:Unbelievable
 
Danny said:
A couple of things here. The reason Zona would trade Rosen is because with Murray, the offense won't fit Rosen at all so why keep him?
Teams know that they want to trade him so Arizona doesn't have much leverage so a 3rd pick might do it. I'm not his biggest fan but I'd trade a 3rd for him.
Heck I'd try to trade a 4th plus Tanny so that he could be their back up(they probably don't want him tho...lol)
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Sounds good to me, unfortunately, Tanny would then be the highest paid backup in the league. I don't think AZ is that desperate for a backup. I think we're SOL for getting something for him, he's going to be cut. Now I don't know if it's possible but we ship him to AZ along with 13mil in cash and we're basically doing the same as cutting him (and costing us 13 mil) but getting a 4th and Rosen. AZ gets 13 mil off his 26mil salary from us. Kinda the way MLB/NBA ship players around with cash attached. Not sure if the NFL collective bargaining allows it.
 
The Goat said:
Mild tangent:

You want to talk about a guy who got a LOT of money for next to nothing?

From 2016-2018, Mike Glennon was on the Bucs, then the Bears, then the Cardinals.

He started 4 games.

He had 172 total pass attempts.

He was sacked 9 times.

In 3 years.

For this Herculean feat, he was paid $25,171,000.

That is 139,066.30 per drop back.

So basically, every time Mike Glennon dropped back....someone gave him a Porsche GT3.
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Nice, sign me up!
 
As Armano Salguero said on Twitter this could be a win win for the fins. Trade for Rosen for a 3rd or less and get a RD1 QB that could still live up to that billing solving the franchise QB hole or he sucks and we stick to targeting Tua.

The only thing we don't want is somewhere in the middle. It's a gamble but one that could pay off.
 
I would rather eat a sh*t sandwhich than pay any remote attention to these beat writers during the off-season.
 
Aqua Marino (UK) said:
As Armano Salguero said on Twitter this could be a win win for the fins. Trade for Rosen for a 3rd or less and get a RD1 QB that could still live up to that billing solving the franchise QB hole or he sucks and we stick to targeting Tua.

The only thing we don't want is somewhere in the middle. It's a gamble but one that could pay off.
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I've been preaching the same in regards to the upside.

But with our luck, he comes in. He has a banner year. We decide that dafting a QB is now not worth it. And we get left in purgatory once again.

I'd still take the bet. I'm sure he'll struggle here too and that's fine. Perhaps he turns into the star QB everyone thought he would be and even better.

It's that middle ground you mention. There's the rub.
 
Teenwolf said:
I would rather eat a sh*t sandwhich than pay any remote attention to these beat writers during the off-season.
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Yeh but what else have we to do on here but to indulge in all of this nonsense? It's all in good fun.
 
marino13zach54 said:
Yeh but what else have we to do on here but to indulge in all of this nonsense? It's all in good fun.
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I hear what you're saying but I'm too long in the tooth to suffer it anymore. During the offseason I just indulge in old games on Youtube - it's awesome and of course reminds me of better times!
 
Rosen was my favourite QB in last years draft and this performance against the 49ers last year is exactly why I rated him highly. Look, the kid has some obvious weaknesses to his game like his durability is a concern but to only give up a 3rd round pick for a guy who is clearly 1st round talent would be an absolute steal.

 


Evaluating Rosen's worth at this point is interesting. The NFL clearly wasn't as high on him as most draft analysts, and I thought he should have went later than he did (mid-to-late 1st). He was in a bad spot, and he played terribly. In general, you want to incorporate new info, and, in doing that, you would naturally knock his value. Just look at his company in the above Tweet. But, if NFL teams properly evaluated him, they would have expected him to be bad in a bad situation, so knocking him for being what you expect is double counting to some extent, and I only add that qualifier because he was SO bad.

If there was a greater range of teams that really need a QB, I'd expect Arizona to recoup at least a 2nd for him, but if Washington and Miami don't like him, Arizona may have to settle for less. If they think he can be a good teammate as a backup, it'd be best to just keep him at that point, but that would likely be too messy.
 
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