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Qb Pick Now, Or Qb Pick Next Draft?

LargoFin said:
Haskins is better. That is a fact. Haskins had 533 attempts in 14 games. He carried the offense. Tua had 345 attempts in 15 games. Adjusted for 14 games that would be 322 attempts. That is a world of difference. Haskins simply contributed more to moving the offense and scoring, significantly more!

In addition to that, Haskins has prototypical frame you want, Tua does not.

A smaller guy who does not contribute nearly as much cannot be better. If you are smaller you have to contribute more, be special about something, in performance. And Tua is not. He is not better, on performance.

Finally, on performance, Tua is a bigger risk, he has whacky numbers. His performance is akin to Kellen Moore, Case Keenum, Derek Carr, Brandon Doughty, those types of QBs in last year in college. His performance is not akin to Luck, WIlson, Mahomes, and others who actually translated great to NFL game.

All that boils down to this. You do not suck for a QB like that, not on this year's performance.
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This is wrong my friend - and that is a fact. But you are a lot of fun no doubt.



All of you have LargoFin misunderstood. This is what he's trying to say...

You only suck for Ohio St. quarterbacks. Like J.T. Barrett....

https://finheaven.com/threads/2018-qbs-production-analysis.346763/
 
TedSlimmJr said:
This is wrong my friend - and that is a fact. But you are a lot of fun no doubt.
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Is Haskins prototypical passer? YES
Is Tua prototypical passer? NO
Does Tua have extra athletic ability to compensate? No.

Did Haskins carry the offense? YES
Did Tua carry the offense? NO

Did Haskins score more? YES
Did Tua? NO

Who checks the boxes? Haskins, not Tua. Done.
 
LargoFin said:
Is Haskins prototypical passer? YES
Is Tua prototypical passer? NO
Does Tua have extra athletic ability to compensate? No.

Did Haskins carry the offense? YES
Did Tua carry the offense? NO

Did Haskins score more? YES
Did Tua? NO

Who checks the boxes? Haskins, not Tua. Done.
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LargoFin said:
Is Haskins prototypical passer? YES Correct.
Is Tua prototypical passer? NO
Does Tua have extra athletic ability to compensate? No.

Did Haskins carry the offense? YES
Did Tua carry the offense? NO

Did Haskins score more? YES
Did Tua? NO

Who checks the boxes? Haskins, not Tua. Done.
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Is Haskins prototypical passer? YES Correct.
Is Tua prototypical passer? NO Incorrect.
Does Tua have extra athletic ability to compensate? No. Incorrect.

Did Haskins carry the offense? YES Somewhat correct.
Did Tua carry the offense? NO Incorrect.

Did Haskins score more? YES Incorrect.
Did Tua? NO Incorrect.

Who checks the boxes? Haskins, not Tua. Done. Incorrect.



You're actually getting worse at this quarterback thing. Now that's saying something holy.
 
TedSlimmJr said:
Is Tua prototypical passer? NO Incorrect.
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6-1 frame is not a prototypical frame for a Quarterback. He cannot be a prototypical passer at 6-1. You are incorrect.


TedSlimmJr said:
Does Tua have extra athletic ability to compensate? No. Incorrect.
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Tua ran 57 times for 190. That's a 3.3 average. There is nothing special, or extra about that. You are incorrect.


TedSlimmJr said:
Did Haskins score more? YES Incorrect.
Did Tua? NO Incorrect.
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Haskins scored 54 TD in 14 games
Tua scored 48 TD in 15 games




Who is incorrect?

If Haskins played for Bama, you'd see the facts.
 
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LargoFin said:
6-1 frame is not a prototypical frame for a Quarterback. He cannot be a prototypical passer at 6-1. You are incorrect.




Tua ran 57 times for 190. That's a 3.3 average. There is nothing special, or extra about that. You are incorrect.




Haskins scored 54 TD
Tua scored 48 TD.




Who is incorrect?

If Haskins played for Bama, you'd see the facts.
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You didn't ask if Tua had a prototypical frame, you asked if he was a prototypical passer. Two completely different things. Success isn't defined by how prototypical you are in terms of height.

Secondly, you can't inject rushing statistics into a debate regarding the aspects of prototypical passing. He's miles more athletic than Dwayne Haskins. Miles. MILES.

Tua played much less than Haskins. Tua rarely played the second half of games until the last month of the season.

Haskins threw 50 TD's averaging 38 attempts/game. Tua threw 43 TD's averaging 23 attempts/game.

Would you like to compare the level of defenses each faced also? Go for it so I can shoot it full of holes too.

Like I said, you're actually getting worse at this. I don't think anyone believed it possible.
 
TedSlimmJr said:
Is Haskins prototypical passer? YES Correct.
Is Tua prototypical passer? NO Incorrect.
Does Tua have extra athletic ability to compensate? No. Incorrect.

Did Haskins carry the offense? YES Somewhat correct.
Did Tua carry the offense? NO Incorrect.

Did Haskins score more? YES Incorrect.
Did Tua? NO Incorrect.

Who checks the boxes? Haskins, not Tua. Done. Incorrect.



You're actually getting worse at this quarterback thing. Now that's saying something holy.
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But, but, there's no debate over performance data, right?
 
LargoFin said:
This is not holy.
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See, you're not the only one who can partial-quote out of context. Spend some time on your Apollos website. You're beginning to seem like someone more interested in stirring up controversy than a Dolphins fan. But hey, you be you.
 
all im curious is why people keep talking about 3 more years for Lawrence. think I read that half a dozen times. its actually 1 year an a month you'd have to wait to get trevor Lawrence. so those that say it isn't worth the wait, or say they would wait 3 years....well ima save you 11 months of angst. cause he's 25 months away from getting drafted not 36.

and I say if we are going to wait 3 or ummm errrmmm 2 years and a month, then Holton Ahlers is still my man. I'd take him over Murray, Haskins, Tua, or Lawrence
 
You know who had a prototypical frame as well? Tannehill for one, how’d that work out? This prototypical Bs is just that, Bs. Something to grasp straws at.
 
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