Is Offensive Line Now The Biggest Priority?

We’ve drafted 5 first round Olinemen in 20 years and have never had an elite line.

The Pats have drafted 3 and always have a line that has given Brady worlds of time.

I know 2 more is not a significant difference but you have to be able to hit on Olinemen later or elsewhere.

Not that I need to be re-educated

But it is kind of funny how year after year we hear of our QB needing time and an upgrade in the OL. Damn how many times did we hear that RT was unjustly evaluated because he played behind a crappy OL (which actually is a fair observation.)
Now what possible score a very good prodigy QB and put him behind Tunsil and the 4 Pallbearers...
Ya, that makes a lot of sense
Just think if we are lucky we might have a QB next off season that can actually walk to the practice field, lol..

Don't see or know how the FO is going to deal with this just hope to God its not as much of a complicated question as some in here seem to think....because its basic common sense, THE OL is a must, especially if we get a new young up and comer QB.....and the better that OL is, the more opportunity for Growth and success the QB will have in a more reasonable timely matter.....

Though the QB is still the biggest priority

cuzinvinny said:

Not that I need to be re-educated

But it is kind of funny how year after year we hear of our QB needing time and an upgrade in the OL. Damn how many times did we hear that RT was unjustly evaluated because he played behind a crappy OL (which actually is a fair observation.)
Now what possible score a very good prodigy QB and put him behind Tunsil and the 4 Pallbearers...
Ya, that makes a lot of sense
Just think if we are lucky we might have a QB next off season that can actually walk to the practice field, lol..

Don't see or know how the FO is going to deal with this just hope to God its not as much of a complicated question as some in here seem to think....because its basic common sense, THE OL is a must, especially if we get a new young up and comer QB.....and the better that OL is, the more opportunity for Growth and success the QB will have in a moe reasonable timely matter.....

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It's also not a sin to let the QB sit for a year while you continue to better the team around him.

Everyone advocating Oline is on point as well.

I'd prefer not to take one so high. Trade back for next year ammo and take OL lower and later.

marino13zach54 said:

It's also not a sin to let the QB sit for a year while you continue to better the team around him.

Everyone advocating Oline is on point as well.

I'd prefer not to take one so high. Trade back for next year ammo and take OL lower and later.

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I could easily see our FO liking one of 3 guys to grab at 13 or higher. And truthfully couldn't care less of anyone elses opinion as to who to go after. At this point the FO must be some what trusted that they know the QB they can work with and build around a heck of a lot more than any of us who truthfully know squat or possibly even less than squat about this FO plan and ability.

As far as sitting the new QB, ya thats an option but IMO a very poor option to waste a whole year when that experience so vital to the guys progression. Think if we get our guy this draft they will surround him (OL) with an efficient probably not the final OL (taking more like 2 years) but good enough to safely expose the new guy... JMO...Like everyone else have no real clue as to what they actually have brewing in pot. And find this extremely exciting.....

cuzinvinny said:

I could easily see our FO liking one of 3 guys to grab at 13 or higher. And truthfully couldn't care less of anyone elses opinion as to who to go after. At this point the FO must be some what trusted that they know the QB they can work with and build around a heck of a lot more than any of us who truthfully know squat or possibly even less than squat about this FO plan and ability.

As far as sitting the new QB, ya thats an option but IMO a very poor option to waste a whole year when that experience so vital to the guys progression. Think if we get our guy this draft they will surround him (OL) with an efficient probably not the final OL (taking more like 2 years) but good enough to safely expose the new guy... JMO...Like everyone else have no real clue as to what they actually have brewing in pot. And find this extremely exciting.....

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Exactly. No one knows. But it's a forum. If we can't have our opinions here I hope we have mirrors that listen well. Either way, I'm giving this regime the benefit of the doubt no matter what they decide.

Mahomes sat for a year. I don't see it as a wasted year but I can empathize with those who believe so.

And you also have to keep in mind that you don't know if you are hitting on an OLman (or any other player).

I think Haskins at 13 would be a very difficult decision.

And, yes, brother! It is all very, very exciting.

Gonzo said:

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No need to elaborate?

Kdawg954 said:

Obviously you don’t place it above getting a franchise QB but if it lines up to build up the OLine in 2019 via the draft you do it.

We absolutely tried to do this with Tannehill.

Pouncey, Martin, Thomas, Turner, Douglas, James, Albert, Incognito and Tunsil

Over the course of 6 drafts. 3 first round picks, a second round pick, 2 third round picks, a 4th round pick a big spend on LT in FA and a Good spend at guard.

Never mind the day 3 and UDFA and smaller FAs.

That is not neglect and I hate when people say we neglected the OLine.

We just failed miserably, particularly with the guys we projected to flank the center with.

But right now the group is beyond dreadful apart from the LT.

Its a top priority . . . Absolutely.

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Yeah it was a combination of issues.

Dallas Thomas and Jamil Douglas were just bad picks. While Billy Turner was extremely raw and just turned into a solid player this year at RT (after being a guard with us).

Scheme also was an issue. Joe Schad mentioned in an interview that under Adam Gase the OL blocking scheme would change week to week. This caused a lot of confusion.

You also have to ask how the QB did at adjusting blocking schemes. Now obviously not putting all the blame on Tannehill or even half. But if the OL is an issue for someone's entire career it's worth a question.

That being said, I do think a good scheme can hide some OL issues. Do we need upgrades? Sure. And there are some cheap FAs available that have starting experience and have graded out well. Plus there are good prospects in the draft.

marino13zach54 said:

We’ve drafted 5 first round Olinemen in 20 years and have never had an elite line.

The Pats have drafted 3 and always have a line that has given Brady worlds of time.

I know 2 more is not a significant difference but you have to be able to hit on Olinemen later or elsewhere.

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It’s amazing how much better your oline looks with a 3 step drop and quick passing game

marino13zach54 said:

Exactly. No one knows. But it's a forum. If we can't have our opinions here I hope we have mirrors that listen well. Either way, I'm giving this regime the benefit of the doubt no matter what they decide.

Mahomes sat for a year. I don't see it as a wasted year but I can empathize with those who believe so.

And you also have to keep in mind that you don't know if you are hitting on an OLman (or any other player).

I think Haskins at 13 would be a very difficult decision.

And, yes, brother! It is all very, very exciting.

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Be shocked if Haskins was there at 13, IMO maybe and thats a big maybe Lock there at 13.

Funny and understand your point about sitting a year but usually doesn't influence me when a poster points out one players success while failing to acknowledge the usually huge majority that failed... Think you can find one or two examples of justifying pretty much all opinions.
But would agree with the no OL keeping the guy mostly on the bench. just feel that would be such a big miss calculation though sadly a reasonable approach.

So true, surprised that we haven't added one quality OL yet but blindly hoping that they have their plan and beside #1 QB the #2 insight is the OL to put around him. Understandably, they are still trying to figure that out not knowing the skill set of whoever they end up with at QB.

There are just so many variables to consider that we are aware of and I'm sure they are seeing a lot more than we are..We don't really even know who they like and how much they value these QB's. Are thy interested in 2019 QB draft or 2020 Draft damn......don't think anybody I've read has any kind of factual clue...

dolphinheel said:

It’s amazing how much better your oline looks with a 3 step drop and quick passing game

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That's what a franchise QB can do for you all the more reason why drafting one is much more important.

TruePoizon said:

Matt Kalil is available? A few other guys in FA who cant possibly be any worse than Larsen.

I know the CB market has Darby and Callahan who could fill #2 role, but the trenches are most important for now. Quentin Spain and James Carpenter are free.

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Darby resigned with Philly. 1yr

I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Rosen for a 2 or 3.

There is work to be done on both sides of the line and they need at least 3 guys on th OL, but you can't ignore the talent available on the DL early in this draft. Depending on what happens in the next 6 weeks, I'm going DE/DT in the first then centers and guards on day 2 and 3.

Ya its amazing what a Dan Marino can do. But sadly they aren't around much any more. Maybe a guy whos fast as lightening could be the new thing ?

I mean last years upgrade was a bonus at the start when you saw the QB actually handing it off to a RB instead of the DL man in the back field, as the previous year...

Very curious to see the new staffs handling of whatever our new OL becomes. Be interesting to see their choices most likely skilled but not top end OL men and how much they are able to coach and put them in a more advantageous position for success than we've seen the past decade.