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Tannehill Traded To Titans

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ANUFan said:
What's really going to drive people mad is if Tannehill performs well with the Titans.
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What will your excuses be if he fails? He'll have less opportunities. No unquestioned support. A new system, and if their system asks him to attack all levels of the field often, I believe he'll be exposed.
 
skillkills said:
What will your excuses be if he fails? He'll have less opportunities. No unquestioned support. A new system, and if their system asks him to attack all levels of the field often, I believe he'll be exposed.
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26 total post? Yeah, come back when you're at least to 1000.
 
This debate doesn’t have to be had! The horrible debate of Stans vs Haters is finaly over. I bid you adu worst debate in Dolphin fan history.
 
TeeMoney said:
Catch-22. Miami wants to lose and knows it will not lose successfully with Tannehill at QB. The past 7 years Miami wanted to win and did not win successfully with Tannehill at QB.
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And our goal for this off-season is to either find a QB much better than Tannehill...or much worse.
 
Kdawg954 said:
You are still operating as if the cap and the salary is the same thing, and that is confusing you.

The Largo dude is also confusing you, I wouldn’t listen to anything he has said. Not saying he has been 100% wrong, but the way he writes it will come off as very confusing.

Lets say Ryan Tannehill got a $15 million dollar signing bonus on a 5 year contract. He gets all of that right away . . . Money in his pocket.

However on the team salary cap, you don’t get hit with a direct $15 million in the same year, it would be split equally over the course of the 5 years.

So if Miami cuts him after 3 years . . . .$9 million of the $15million will have hit the team cap but still there is $6 million that has not and that accelerates to be due immediately . . . .or a team can split that hit over 2 years if they designate him a post June 1st cut.

This has nothing to do with actual money as that has already been paid.

Like people say Miami is still paying Suh and I have to laugh a bit as that isn’t the case.

Just seperate salary cap from actual money and you’ll get it.
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i get this, but do we know that the bonus WAS paid all at once?
 
Back to Dwight Stephenson...Bear Bryant called him the best,Don Shula called him the best.First ballot Hall of Famer in injury shorten career..I’m not arguing with these people..As for the cat that called Marty Lyons a pos...we’ll,Marty and Dwight are still best friends to this day,so that throws that out..It was a crappy play,not intentional dirty..
 
Dolphinitis said:
i get this, but do we know that the bonus WAS paid all at once?
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The bonus was fully paid to Tannehiil when he resigned, and every year a part of that bonus hit the cap. What remained was 7.8 mil in 2019 as a cap hit, and 5.6 mil in 2020 as a cap hit.
Salary is separate, it hits the cap in addition to the bonus.


Here is the kicker. Tannehill's scheduled salary was 18.8 mil this year with 0 guaranteed money. Therefore, if RT remained on roster, the cap hit in 2019 would be the bonus of 7.8 mil, plus the salary 18.8 mil, which is 26.6 mil total cap hit this year. If they kept him for 2019, they would have to pay him the salary.

If the Dolphins cut Tannehill, he was due no salary, 0 guarantees, because he is cut. They do not have to pay him. The only thing left would be the 7.8 mil cap hit this year, and 5.6 mil next year. But 0 money would be paid.


However, since he was traded, he will have a salary next year, 18.8 million. The Titans were not willing to pay that salary! They were willing to pay only a part of that salary but not the full salary.

So the genius Grier took on a part of that salary, which he did not have to do! Now that part of the salary, which is 5 mil, is an addition to the cap hit. Now the Dolphins are on hook for 7.8 mil bonus, plus the 5 mil salary, which is 12.8 mil. Plus the 5.6 mil bonus hit from 2020 which is accelerated to this year 2019, so the total cap hit is 12.8 + 5.6 which is 18.4 mil total cap hit this year.

The Dolphins took on a larger cap hit than they needed to. They took on a cap hit of 18.4 mil instead of the cap hit of just the bonus 13.4 mil (7.8 + 5.6) and no salary. They added some salary to the cap hit, unnecessarily.

Now, they, the Dolphins say we had to take a larger cap hit than necessary to be ale to trade him and get a fourth round pick, because the Titans did not want to trade otherwise, they did not want to take his full salary and also take a cap hit for that full salary.

So on the flip side, the Dolphins essentially paid 5 mil to get a fourth round pick. The problem is, a fourth round pick makes a total of 2.5 mil over the course of 4 years contract, and of that let's say 1.2 mil is guaranteed.
So now by paying 5 mil for that pick, the Dolphins will essentially pay 6.2 mil guaranteed to a fourth round pick! Instead of 1.2 mil. (net loss cash)

They also increased the cap from 13.4 mil to 18.4 mil. (net loss cap)

And they traded a 6th round pick for a 7th round pick. (net loss draft value)


That's unreal man!
 
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skillkills said:
I'm not necessarily a fan of the team. I'm a fan of comedy which is why watch the Dolphins.
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Jets are looking for a few good fans.


DPhinz_DPhinz said:
Is there a 5th person that will say what Kenny Stills has said?
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One thing I really dig about Stills is he tells it like it is and he doesn't give a flip what others say or think. Hence the Kaep stance.

Common sense says there are dozens of current and past Dolphin players that appreciate and know the true insides of why Ryan never hit his pinnacle on the team for what ever 20 reasons one could state, injury / weak supporting cast / learning on the job coach / poor play calling / cobwebs from getting rattled so much / struggling with his pocket presence etc.

Other players are also smart enough to know they aren't in a position / standing on strong enough ground to stir the football political world of speaking out for Ryan Tannehill or against him.

If you're not smart enough to know that,that's your problem.

Common sense isn't common.
 
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LargoFin said:
The bonus was fully paid to Tannehiil when he resigned, and every year a part of that bonus hit the cap. What remained was 7.8 mil in 2019 as a cap hit, and 5.6 mil in 2020 as a cap hit.
Salary is separate, it hits the cap in addition to the bonus.


Here is the kicker. Tannehill's schedules salary was 18.8 mil this year with 0 guaranteed money. Therefore, if RT remained on roster, the cap hit in 2019 would be the bonus of 7.8 mil, plus the salary 18.8 mil, which is 26.6 mil total cap hit this year. If they kept him for 2019, they would have to pay him the salary.

If the Dolphins cut Tannehill, he was due no salary, 0 guarantees, because he is cut. They do not have to pay him. The only thing left would be the 7.8 mil cap hit this year, and 5.6 mil next year. But 0 money would be paid.


However, since he was traded, he will have a salary next year, 18.8 million. The Titans were not willing to pay that salary! They were willing to pay only a part of that salary but not the full salary.

So the genius Grier took on a part of that salary, which he did not have to do! Now that part of the salary, which is 5 mil, is an addition to the cap hit. Now the Dolphins are on hook for 7.8 mil bonus, plus the 5 mil salary, which is 12.8 mil. Plus the 5.6 mil bonus hit from 2020 which is accelerated to this year 2019, so the total cap hit is 12.8 + 5.6 which is 18.4 mil total cap hit this year.

The Dolphins took on a larger cap hit than they needed to. They took on a cap hit of 18.4 mil instead of the cap hit of just the bonus 13.4 mil (7.8 + 5.6) and no salary. They added some salary to the cap hit, unnecessarily.

Now, they, the Dolphins say we had to take a larger cap hit then necessary to be ale to trade him and get a fourth round pick, because the Titans did not want to trade otherwise, they did not want to take his full salary and also take a cap hit for that full salary.

So on the flip side, the Dolphins essentially paid 5 mil to get a fourth round pick. The problem is, a fourth round pick makes a total of 2.5 mil over the course of 4 years contract, and of that let's say 1.2 mil is guaranteed.
So now by paying 5 mil for that pick, the Dolphins will essentially pay 6.2 mil guaranteed to a fourth round pick! Instead of 1.2 mil.

They also increased the cap from 13.4 mil to 18.4 mil.

And they trade a 6th round pick for a 7th round pick.


That's unreal man!
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What the **** are you talking about. You have it all backwards.
 
Could someone post Reshad and Devante's parting words to RT?? I dont see them from those pics/tweets.. Believe it or not, some of like to see the kind words of his former teammates
 
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