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Ryan Fitzpatrick To Miami

We've lost Wake, and soon Quinn from a line that was bad... real bad.

From the offense, we've lost two fading, part time players, a mediocre QB who couldn't stay healthy and the only real loss, James.

Are we that much worse than before? I'm not convinced. If lightning were to strike and our first 3 picks win starting spots, we could actually improve.

I doubt that happens, but you never know. Draft a 10 sack edge and a OL monster and... maybe.
 
rickd13 said:
I am saying who I want instead. If the plan is to draft a qb next year, then I would want to play one of the young guys they already have on their roster. I do not need a guy playing qb who is just competent enough to take Miami out of prime position to draft the best qb in next year's draft but inept enough to not make the team a contender.
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OK well that isn't going to happen for all the reasons explained at various points in this thread, and if you are expecting that then it explains why you're so disappointed/upset. Deliberately being as bad as possible just to get the #1 pick next year is not a realistic expectation.
 
meatpardle said:
OK well that isn't going to happen for all the reasons explained at various points in this thread, and if you are expecting that then it explains why you're so disappointed/upset. Deliberately being as bad as possible just to get the #1 pick next year is not a realistic expectation.
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Why is it not a realistic expectation? How many teams do you think will be worse than Miami especially if Miami didn't plan on starting Fitzpatrick? Maybe the Giants, maybe Arizona, maybe Cincinnati. If you look you will see that according to Vegas, Miami is an underdog in every game they have on their schedule this season.
 
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rickd13 said:
Why is not a realistic expectation? How many teams do you think will be worse than Miami especially if Miami didn't plan on starting Fitzpatrick? Maybe the Giants, maybe Arizona, maybe Cincinnati. If you look you will see that according to Vegas, Miami is an underdog in every game they have on their schedule this season.
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No group of players or coaches are going to go out an d deliberately lose. The FO may decide not to furnish the coaches with a great selection of players but there still needs to be a level of competency to avoid other long term issues. Just throwing anyone in at QB will cause more issues than it solves. The answer to our current issues is not to do whatever it takes to get the #1 pick next year.
 
FinPhan54 said:
Or.... and hear me out....

Maybe they don't want year 1 to be a COMPLETE disaster and would like to have a veteran around to be able to properly evaluate or young guys. With Falk or Rudock we could never evaluate the young offensive players that will be on the roster.
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I don't discount that either. I'm certainly not against the signing but every sport in the world has a responsibility to it's fans, global sponsorship, betting companies etc. to ensure the product they produce is fair. What the fins have done in stating before the season even starts that they have zero intention of being competitive is unprecedented. We've heard people talk many times about rebuilding processes but for an owner to fire a coach "because he wanted to win straight away" really is an extremely strange thing to publicly say, I'm sure there is some regret there with the words he used. I'm sure also that the NFL reminded him that they have an ethical duty to compete.

This isn't the WWE and I don't think it's beyond the realms of sanity to suggest they've had a private word with Ross to ensure he understands the ramifications in deliberately going out to lose.

Having said that I do think Fitzmagic will make 2019 a lot more fun than it would have been and his influence in the locker room will be healthy although there is zero evidence from his past port of calls of him helping develop young QBs.
 
marino13zach54 said:
Would’ve rather have given a young QB the opportunity, no matter how slight the chance, to grow. We know what Fitz is.

If we’re most likely to struggle anyway, struggle with possible growth.

What excites me about Fitz is the prospect of the knowledge he can/will impart to Murray. :chuckle:
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Do you really believe Murray is still an option?

I don't see it.
 
Personally I'm not sold on Tua nearly enough to go full on tank mode for him. He is not the prospect that Luck was.

Now if it was Trevor Lawrence...yah, give me some Falk and Ruddock.
 
I think we put a competent football team on the field and compete in every game. These bodies are all within a few pounds and inches of each other. The team that best executes the fundamentals with a little more big play potential can become the champions. Coaching is underestimated by the Madden plug in player mentality. A good scheme creates mismatches, exploits what the other team can give them and executes like a chess game. We went to the same number of super bowls with David Woodley and Dan Marino.
 
Geordie said:
Kinda related, but I've been mulling over this since he sign. Apologies if anyone else has already brought this up but I wonder if the NFL have told the dolphins to "at least show as if you are trying" by signing a vet with starting experience rather than just rolling with the two we had under contract plus a late round draft pick. I'm sure the NFL aren't too keen having a situation where it is clear that one team is deliberately losing games, even before the season starts.
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Giants lol
 
In the last 10 years there's only been one first year HC who's gotten the #1 overall pick. Steve Wilks, who was rightfully canned. If that were to happen here you'd rightfully can Flores and that sets whatever program you establish back a year.
 
FearTheBeard said:
In the last 10 years there's only been one first year HC who's gotten the #1 overall pick. Steve Wilks, who was rightfully canned. If that were to happen here you'd rightfully can Flores and that sets whatever program you establish back a year.
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I wouldn't can him after the first year with this roster. Even if he is canned his tenure here wouldn't be in vain.
 
FearTheBeard said:
In the last 10 years there's only been one first year HC who's gotten the #1 overall pick. Steve Wilks, who was rightfully canned. If that were to happen here you'd rightfully can Flores and that sets whatever program you establish back a year.
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Flores won't get canned after one season even if they go 0-16. You can take that to the bank. He and Grier are tied to the hip for the long haul.
 
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