I should be clear. That number for Jones and Wilson are the cap numbers.
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Yes, I saw on over the cap as well. Jones is impossible to move this year, even if we kicked is some money. Look at those 2019 numbers- yuck. I don’t think it could happen in season either actually- looking at those numbers.
We'd actually save roughly $5.025M by trading Reshad. A team would roughly get him at a $8.970M cap number.
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Moving Reshad Jones, the very thought of it, indicates a mind that is, beyond crazy/lost/
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How are you getting that number if you don’t mind sharing?
The base on Reshad is 13 million . . . .anybody trading for him will have that as a cap hit in 2019. . . Unless Miami eats salary, which I am guessing would be mandatory at that price.
We save 5 million in 2019 because of the $12 million in prorated bonus hits left subtracted from the $17 million cap hit this year.
He ain’t getting traded and this will remain one of the worst transactions of the decade in regards to any player in the NFL. A non QB, over 30, coming off an injury, an injury in which the team was 1-4 with him and then wins 9 of the next 10 without him, with a year left on his deal, gets a big extension . . . .and then the following year gets a substantial restructure to make him virtually untouchable for 2 years.
I try to be an open guy, and I tried to be that with Tannenbaum, but his 2018 offseason was criminal.
Is it weird that I read all of your posts like they're being narrated by the crazy Marlon Brando character in Apocalypse Now?
I agree. Gotta be crazy to move him this year. Just as crazy as giving him the contract we did. Our Cap difficulties should be coming from the QB, LT, CB and DE positions. NOT a Safety. Jones isn't gong to play up to his cap # this coming year. And we cant dump him!
If u can get anybody to trade for him you deserve a gold medal.
He just is uncuttable due to the guarantee kicker from 2018.
According to OTC, only $2M of his base salary is GTD, as of March 15th.
17,160,000 cap hit - 4,045,000 prorated - 100,000 workout bonus = 13,015,000 (base salary, cap hit if traded, my apologies, was looking at base, not cap #), but if you also factor in $2M is already paid by us, it would be a 11,015,000 cap # for any team.
I would assume we would save cap hit - pro rated bonus remainder - already gtd salary, so 17,160,000 - 12,135,000 - 2,000,000 (gtd as of 3/15) = 3,025,000 saved.
The contract is albatross for sure.... But it's possible we can deal him without taking a hit is what I was trying to allude to. Cutting him isn't an option this year, even with a PJ1 due to the $2M gtd already. Apologies for the wrong math. Knew the formula, just looked at the wrong #.
Solid Kurtz quote there. This will be incorporated into my reading of the site ... thank you sir.
His entire contract is guaranteed for 2019 as of 3/16/19 . . . but the reason why we didn’t cut him prior to that is because $11 million of the $13 million was already guaranteed in 2018.
That is the reason why the savings if cut is -8 million on OTC. If the salary was not guaranteed the savings would be the exact same as the trade ($5 million). We save more on a trade because another team is paying the salary and the dead money is only the signing bonus hits.
Giving Jones a horrible contract wasn't bad enough for tbaum.......he then went and restructure the freaking deal to make it even worse. Just based on that alone tbaum should be bared from every being in Miami for any reason.
Correct. I was talking from a trading standpoint, rather than cutting.