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2020 Dolphins Expect To Have $120 Mil In Cap Space And At Least 10 Picks

cuban_refugee said:
Business is business. You make hires in any business that you think will work out or make sense. You give time and expend energy as a boss to promote your culture and you have expectations. When you see the productivity is not where it needs to be or someone is not buying into your culture, then you have to move on. There is no one that has run a business that will say they've always made smart hires.
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Interesting. So if I'm a successful business owner of a dive bar in Whocaresville, Iowa, I will have no problem running a football team? I mean, the business is successful, I have to hire people, I have to promote my culture or whatever, and I have expectations. Checking all the boxes, I'm ready!

Sorry, not all businesses are the same. It's not just about hiring (the process of which is also not the same from business to business). The structure of the businesses are completely different, the staffing systems are completely different, the products are completely different, and the market is completely different. This isn't to say that he cannot adapt, although it has been 11 years and he's still doing his weird piecemeal approach to hiring and firing, but it's most certainly not a seamless transition between businesses.
 
I for one am willing to give Grier the chance, no matter how long he has been with the team. It's his show and it seems to not be business as usual. Expensive FA picks and that win now attitude is a thing of the pass, if you're not excited at least feel good about what you've see so far. I know some of us might not like how the Dolphins are going about the season so far, and I know some think they could do it better, but it is refreshing to see what looks like a plan and said plan being instituted. Give the FO, owner GM, and coach a chance for Christ sake.
 
Gonzo said:
Interesting. So if I'm a successful business owner of a dive bar in Whocaresville, Iowa, I will have no problem running a football team? I mean, the business is successful, I have to hire people, I have to promote my culture or whatever, and I have expectations. Checking all the boxes, I'm ready!

Sorry, not all businesses are the same. It's not just about hiring (the process of which is also not the same from business to business). The structure of the businesses are completely different, the staffing systems are completely different, the products are completely different, and the market is completely different. This isn't to say that he cannot adapt, although it has been 11 years and he's still doing his weird piecemeal approach to hiring and firing, but it's most certainly not a seamless transition between businesses.
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And my biggest issue has been the constant have to keep the gm to be coach and back and forth. Should have hired a GM and let him run the show period which he has never really done.
The closest was the parcells role but it was a bad move from the beginning because we know how fickle Parcells was. I hated the idea because his history had showed him to quit on basically every team since the giants, I got blasted for saying that but we know what happened.

This idea that a successful businessman will be good in any venture he tries is absurd and has as many pros as cons as examples
 
dlockz said:
And my biggest issue has been the constant have to keep the gm to be coach and back and forth. Should have hired a GM and let him run the show period which he has never really done.
The closest was the parcells role but it was a bad move from the beginning because we know how fickle Parcells was. I hated the idea because his history had showed him to quit on basically every team since the giants, I got blasted for saying that but we know what happened.

This idea that a successful businessman will be good in any venture he tries is absurd and has as many pros as cons as examples
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We may never know the entire story behind Parcells' departure. But one thing is for certain, each time the truth is revealed about a Parcells' exodus from an organization there is an element of broken trust between he and ownership.

Parcells' is an old school believer in earning your respect and doing what you have promised. He expects men to be men.

Any fan around during his tenure knows that Parcells' influence on this organization was felt at it's very core save one area....ownership

Had Parcells' been given the complete control he was promised, this would have played out differently.

Once he left it was a slow erosion of what he had built. But that doesn't speak to the demise as much as it does the flashpoint.

Parcells' ignored the Dolphins in his HOF speech. That doesn't happen if he doesn't feel betrayed. He shamed the Dolphins by omission.

Which points to broken trust.

This story has not been completely uncovered. And it may never be.

But I do understand Parcells' actions to a point. Something happened and it betrayed his trust.

That is the fact we are all missing that explains the loss and void left behind.

Many of our failures are self inflicted.
 
Just going to throw this out there, but while having a lot of ammunition is excellent -- especially going into a year where we will want to draft a prime quarterback talent -- this team has giant, iceberg sized holes all over the place.

- Pass Rusher
- LB
- C/G
- RB
- TE (?)
- WR (?)

Last season, our LB corps was a disaster and our interior OL once again was a complete shitshow. Now we've lost our two best pass rushers, Kenyan Drake is a looming free agent with nothing behind him, and the other offensive skill positions look like they could be disaster areas, as well. We shouldn't so much look at the money and picks (a la Jeff Ireland), but if that money and those picks can be used to effectively address major areas of dire need while the team still picks up blue chip talent and addresses the quarterback position in the way that we all want -- and need -- it to.

If I had any confidence whatsoever in Chris Grier, I would still be very concerned about this team's ability to jump back in and be a contender in 2020 after taking our lumps in 2019. One thing is certain, some of these holes will have to be addressed -- with big hits -- in the 2019 draft. We can't just wait to plug them all up next year. The team needs to start drafting well now.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
Just going to throw this out there, but while having a lot of ammunition is excellent -- especially going into a year where we will want to draft a prime quarterback talent -- this team has giant, iceberg sized holes all over the place.

- Pass Rusher
- LB
- C/G
- RB
- TE (?)
- WR (?)

Last season, our LB corps was a disaster and our interior OL once again was a complete ****show. Now we've lost our two best pass rushers, Kenyan Drake is a looming free agent with nothing behind him, and the other offensive skill positions look like they could be disaster areas, as well. We shouldn't so much look at the money and picks (a la Jeff Ireland), but if that money and those picks can be used to effectively address major areas of dire need while the team still picks up blue chip talent and addresses the quarterback position in the way that we all want -- and need -- it to.

If I had any confidence whatsoever in Chris Grier, I would still be very concerned about this team's ability to jump back in and be a contender in 2020 after taking our lumps in 2019. One thing is certain, some of these holes will have to be addressed -- with big hits -- in the 2019 draft. We can't just wait to plug them all up next year. The team needs to start drafting well now.
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Good to see you Wanny, hope all is well? Haven't seen you on in a while? I understand your position. I just don't think Miami is done dealing. By the time 2020 comes around Miami will have had 2 NFL Drafts and 2 F/A periods to attempt improving the team. Even if Miami can't find trade partners in 2019, it's not impossible, they come out of this draft with 2 DL and 2 OL. 2019 is deep at both positions. So it's possible they'll find starting caliber players into the 4th - 5th round. They now have several good talent evaluators in the organization in Allen and McKenzie, who are very astute. I'm looking forward to seeing this all come to fruition. Good or Bad.
 
dolfan91 said:
Good to see you Wanny, hope all is well? Haven't seen you on in a while? I understand your position. I just don't think Miami is done dealing. By the time 2020 comes around Miami will have had 2 NFL Drafts and 2 F/A periods to attempt improving the team. Even if Miami can't find trade partners in 2019, it's not impossible, they come out of this draft with 2 DL and 2 OL. 2019 is deep at both positions. So it's possible they'll find starting caliber players into the 4th - 5th round. They now have several good talent evaluators in the organization in Allen and McKenzie, who are very astute. I'm looking forward to seeing this all come to fruition. Good or Bad.
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:lol: I'm doing well, thanks. But between travel and having a very low opinion of the Grier elevation, haven't been around much lately. In fact, I came back today and saw that I had been insulted and had a bunch of words shoved in my mouth, along with everyone else who thinks Chris Grier's promotion was a sick joke.

Anyway, my thought on this is that we've already had one free agency cycle go by. The Dolphins didn't do badly in this cycle -- they did the very basic and necessary work of cutting veteran players who will not be with the team going forward -- but ultimately if the plan is to rebuild quickly and compete in 2020, it's a very long row to hoe. That gives Miami two drafts and one free agency cycle to address a roster that looks like swiss cheese. When you factor in the added burden of "We fully intend to draft a quarterback in the top three of the 2020 draft" -- which seems to absolutely be the plan -- then you're asking a hell of a lot of the front office to pull that off.
 
hoops said:
Saw something today that said there’s gonna be a bunch of teams with 100 plus mil to spend in 2020.
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The draft picks are far more valuable than the money. Precisely why the Dolphins needed to elevate someone who was NOT the director of college scouting through eight years of failed drafting to run this thing.
 
Mach2 said:
Confucius say "the longest journey begins with the first step".

Stephen Tyler say " life's a journey, not a destination ".

Seems relevant.
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Confucius also said, “Man who stands on toilet, is high on pot”

But yeah, I love how we are set up nicely to do about whatever we want next year. Chris Grier impressing me so far.
 
We had like 10 high picks Gases first year. 2 used on Howard, 3 picks on a wide receiver that never saw the field Caroo. So out of those 10 picks we ended up with Tunsil, Drake, X , McCain and Grant. That's really a pretty decent draft but we have so many more needs than picks and we really cannot be trading away picks if at all possible.
 
Gonzo said:
Interesting. So if I'm a successful business owner of a dive bar in Whocaresville, Iowa, I will have no problem running a football team? I mean, the business is successful, I have to hire people, I have to promote my culture or whatever, and I have expectations. Checking all the boxes, I'm ready!

Sorry, not all businesses are the same. It's not just about hiring (the process of which is also not the same from business to business). The structure of the businesses are completely different, the staffing systems are completely different, the products are completely different, and the market is completely different. This isn't to say that he cannot adapt, although it has been 11 years and he's still doing his weird piecemeal approach to hiring and firing, but it's most certainly not a seamless transition between businesses.
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Not all businesses are the same but there should be the same philosophy in any successful business. Ross never assumed a position that he thought would be the same as his real estate business. He bought the team and took the role because he wants it better , and in my opinion , he will make it better.
 
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