For Or Against The Tank ..with Poll.

superphin said:

I'm for stopping the big money free agent signings and pretending we're 1-2 players away from competing like when we signed Suh. I'm for stopping putting a bandaid on long term problems like when we signed a 32 year old Sitton. I'm for fixing the cap by getting rid of bloated contracts. If that's called tanking than tank away.

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All ****ing this.

What tank??? LOL




We are tying to win the court of the public opinion

Firmly against it. I do not believe that you need to tank to get a good QB. There are plenty of examples of teams (Seahawks, Packers, KC, Philly) that didn’t tank and have a franchise QB. It about talent evaluators and GMs doing their job better.

It’s what is needed for 2019. Do you guys really wanna finish 6-10 or 8-8 to pick another Tackle or CB? We need a good shot at a franchise QB and 2020 has a plethora of solid talent. This draft should be setting up the future QB. Pick up players in the trenches first 2 rounds. The rest should be defensive players

As much as I tend to love tanks ...



The idea sucks for aquatic mammals.

have bad season = top draft picks = top qb to select = put future back on track of winning consistently.

If this works and we draft a legit franchise qb in the next 2 drafts, this will go down as among the smartest decisions the dolphins have ever made.

Mach2 said:

What good does arguing do at this point, anyway? None of us is going to change the future, and we've already stated our opinions.

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You are right.

I typically respond to two basic conditions.
1) A difference in opinion
2) Factual errors of information.

A factual error would occur when responding to something like "was RT a good QB". This is because there is not a very satisfactory way to quantify good QB. There are lots of statistics, but they only represent a fraction of what a QB needs to know and do. It's unreasonable to claim an answer to this question is really anything other than an opinion. I think we all know how RT threads went. In the end it was all opinion and the only opinion that counts was the coaches.

Factual errors could be a complaint about a claim that a lineman was responsible for a specific defender who got thru and sacked our QB. The best anyone on this board could claim is a presumption that the OL player under discussion was responsible for that defender on that particular play.

Without knowing the teams assignments for that play, all any of us can legitimately say is that they PRESUME that the lineman was responsible for that defender on that play. Anything else is overstatement, which means the poster has no knowledge of the OL responsibilities for that play. It's an educated guess, at it's best being presented as a fact. That kind of stuff galls me.

I do also respond to some of the more humorous stuff I see, but that's neither here nor there.

“Tell me more about this tanking..”

SeasonsMusic said:

have bad season = top draft picks = top qb to select = put future back on track of winning consistently.

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History shows it’s usually more like this: have bad season = have more bad seasons = and more

foozool13 said:

Firmly against it. I do not believe that you need to tank to get a good QB. There are plenty of examples of teams (Seahawks, Packers, KC, Philly) that didn’t tank and have a franchise QB. It about talent evaluators and GMs doing their job better.

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Exactly.

Never tank, ever.

It will happen naturally with the OL and DL currently on the roster.

Football is a team sports, and many times the other team dictate what the outcome will be, no need to tank just to stank! fans don't want it coaches don't need it and players who play with passion don't believe in it. They wants to intercept every pass and cover evey fumble they can because those items feed their families when they have an incentive laden contract. You already have at least 9 draft picks next year when or lose they're still ahead of the ball game, that's why you pick your Qb this year and build around him next year, it's a good chance he won't see a snap this season anyway.

I don’t want to see them intentionally lose any game, but I understand that there’s a lot to address for long term success. For that reason, I accept the fact that this likely won’t be a winning season. I believe that intentionally losing, or making obvious choices that says ”we’re tanking” screws players who’s salary is increased from performing better, which would be bad for morale. I think there’s a fine line there that you have to avoid crossing. From an owner perspective, that mentality is not going to fill the stadium either.

I'm sick of 8-8 seasons and drafting middle of the pack in every round. Also sick of getting a couple of free agents and thinking the team is ready to compete. I'm not rooting for the team to lose. I'm rooting for the team to draft high in EVERY round in 2020 and get things turn around.
Some people wants us to do the same things that haven't worked for all these years.

insanity=doing the same thing and expecting a different result